WOW! It's true! Our board GunHuggers agree that you should shoot first then identify your target after.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
WOW! It's true! Our board GunHuggers agree that you should shoot first then identify your target after.
Yup, if it's good enough for the LAPD, as they ran around the city shooting at whoever they thought was Doner. The officer’s safety is first and foremost-so is mine.
The funny part is, if those people that were shot at by the LAPD during the manhunt actually shot back to protect themselves, box would have been blaming the people defending themselves from the police shooting at them. Never shoot at the costumed thug. Always sacrifice yourself for the safety of the officer. Costumes have meaning.
The funny part is, if those people that were shot at by the LAPD during the manhunt actually shot back to protect themselves, box would have been blaming the people defending themselves from the police shooting at them.
As posted in this thread: ..."if you are being fired at, you do have the right to return fire to save your life." Try and keep up Cic.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
As posted in this thread: ..."if you are being fired at, you do have the right to return fire to save your life." Try and keep up Cic.
Wow!! GREAT...You support firing back at cops that are shooting at you. Can somebody fire at cops that are shooting at a fellow citizen, a friend, or a relative to protect their life?
The 'source' was probably a criminal cooperating with police for a lesser sentence. The police made a mistake, but if they identified themselves and were wearing clearly marked 'police' labels...
1. Know your target. Do not take someone's word before using deadly force.
2. If I invade your home and yell police you will ignorantly allow me to enter and kill you.
the homeowner is in the wrong by shooting before he identified his target. Had the homeowner not shot first or had he not owned a gun... he would be alive today.
1. Homeowners who have committed no crime may protect their homes. Even from home invasions by attackers yelling police.
Yes he should of done what you would have done and greet them on his knees with his mouth open
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Loraine Adams said she was handcuffed and thrown to her knees in another room when the shooting began.
“I said, ‘Y’all have got the wrong person, you’ve got the wrong place. What are you looking for?“‘
So the police were already inside when the shooting began, none of us know if they identified themselves or who fired the first shot.
If a group of men pounded and barged in my door and I didn't know who in the hell they were I WOULD shoot first.
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“We did the best surveillance we could do, and a mistake was made,” Lebanon Police Chief Billy Weeks said. “It’s a very severe mistake, a costly mistake. It makes us look at our own policies and procedures to make sure this never occurs again.” He said, however, the two policemen were not at fault.
They did the best surveillance they could ???????????? Then they should have known what house to go to and who they were looking for
If a group of men pounded and barged in my door and I didn't know who in the hell they were I WOULD shoot first.
Exactly seconds count in that situation you don't want the intruder to have any chance of getting the upper hand, if someone is kicking in your door there is a 99.9% chance he isn't there to make friends. I like how box said he should of identified who it was like it was his fault, when in the meantime the cops didn't IDENTIFY the right house or IDENTIFY the right suspect.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Exactly seconds count in that situation you don't want the intruder to have any chance of getting the upper hand, if someone is kicking in your door there is a 99.9% chance he isn't there to make friends. I like how box said he should of identified who it was like it was his fault, when in the meantime the cops didn't IDENTIFY the right house or IDENTIFY the right suspect.
GunHuggers think it's OK to shoot first and ask questions after... The rest of America thinks if you shoot a gun at anyone, you should identify your target first. Had he identified his target, he would be alive today.
GunHuggers shoot first...
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Gibbie was charged with assault with a deadly weapon by Gastonia police after the incident that Gibbie said was an accident when his .16 gauge shotgun discharged. "I didn't shoot it. It went off," Gibbie said.(this one is right up there with "the Dog Ate My Homework"! Maxine said it started when she took their dog, Smokey, out on their lawn and the neighbor's dog came after it. "The dog came right over to him and I was scared he was going to kill him," said Mrs. Gibbie. Howard said he just wanted to find something to use to hit the dog and grabbed his shotgun. "I grabbed it but I made a mistake. I loaded it. That was a mistake," he said. Once outside, he said he yelled at the person to get their dog and take it up the street and that is when the gun somehow went off, injuring two of his fingers. "And I held it up like that and it went (off). You can look at that telephone post," he said. The buckshot hit a phone pole and the house across the street. The victim said she was sure Gibbie was trying to kill her.
This GunHugging A$$hole put his whole neighborhood at risk.
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On February 11, 2006, then U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney shot Harry Whittington, a 78-year-old Texas attorney, while participating in a quail hunt on a ranch in Kenedy County, Texas.
GunHuggin A$$hole.
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A father-of-three was accidentally shot dead by his best friend while taking part in a wild boar hunt on Thursday. Clinton Haas died instantly after being shot during a night hunt on private land. The 34-year-old had joined Ernie Small Jr in trying to track down and kill the wild pigs in Jupiter, Florida. Officials said Small Jr ,36, mistook his friend for a boar and shot him dead.
GunHuggin A$$hole!
GunHuggin A$$holes think it's OK to shoot first and identify your target after... often they are identifying their target to the coroner.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
I guess you are to stupid to see the difference between a hunting accident and a couple goons kicking in your door, why do I bother trying to teach the slow
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
I guess you are to stupid to see the difference between a hunting accident and a couple goons kicking in your door, why do I bother trying to teach the slow
It's ALWAYS an "accident" isn't it. If it weren't an "ACCIDENT" then the Vice President would be arrested for assault, and that is never going to happen so "it was an accident".
Not identifying your target, or not taking precautions to prevent an accidental discharge kills or wounds Americans every day.
GunHuggers who shoot first without identifying their target are A$$holes who put the rest of us in danger.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
GunHuggers who shoot first without identifying their target are A$$holes who put the rest of us in danger.
In a hunting situation I agree, when someone is breaking down your door you are dead wrong. You can sit there and hope the criminal gives you 3 seconds to identify him but chances are he would shoot you at the 1st glimpse of you holding a gun, you think he would hesitate? And then what happens, you are dead and the now murdering criminal is on the run, that puts the rest of us at danger. You can do what you want but if someone is kicking in my door they are done.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Four Defendants Indicted for Committing a Home Invasion Robbery Dressed as Police Officers
One of the Defendants is a Former Petaluma Police Officer
U.S. Attorney’s Office January 10, 2013 Northern District of California (415) 436-7200
SAN FRANCISCO—Four Northern California residents were charged by a federal grand jury in San Francisco with robbery affecting interstate commerce, conspiracy to commit robbery affecting interstate commerce, possession of a firearm in furtherance of the robbery, conspiracy to possess with the intent to distribute marijuana, impersonating an officer, and making a search or arrest while impersonating an officer, United States Attorney Melinda Haag announced.
Michael Puckett, 45, of Petaluma, California, made his initial appearance in federal court this morning and has been detained. He is next scheduled to appear in court tomorrow for identification of counsel. Terry Jacksen, 46, also of Petaluma; Eric Mendonca, 43, of Lake County, California; and Jack Pollack, 54, of Lake County, made their initial appearances yesterday. Mendonca was released on a $50,000 bond. Jacksen and Pollack remain in custody.
According to the indictment and criminal complaint, the defendants conspired to commit a home invasion robbery in Lake County, California, on October 4, 2012. On that date, Pollack cased a residence before Jacksen, dressed up as a Lake County Sheriff’s Office deputy carrying a holstered revolver and wearing a white cowboy hat, knocked on the door and informed the occupants that he was working with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives and was there to conduct a search. Jacksen then handcuffed and zip-tied the occupants before searching the house and stealing 48 marijuana plants. The complaint alleges that Eric Mendonca, a former Petaluma police officer and Lake County Sheriff’s Office deputy, provided Jacksen with the police uniforms. During a search of Mendonca and Jacksen’s property on December 19, 2012, law enforcement authorities located a holstered revolver, a set of Lake County Sheriff’s Office handcuffs, a white cowboy hat, various firearms, and a cellular telephone containing images of Jacksen and Puckett posing in Lake County Sheriff’s Office uniforms with firearms hours before the robbery. A search of Pollack’s residence uncovered approximately 20 pounds of marijuana.
The charges and the possible prison sentence each defendant faces are as follows:
Jacksen
◾One count of conspiracy to commit robbery affecting interstate commerce: 20 years for each count ◾One count of robbery affecting interstate commerce: 20 years ◾One count of possession of a firearm in furtherance of robbery: life, with a mandatory consecutive minimum term of five years ◾One count of conspiracy to distribute or possess with the intent to distribute marijuana: five years ◾One count of impersonating an officer: three years ◾One count of making a search while impersonating an officer: three years ◾One count of felon in possession of a firearm: 10 years Mendonca
◾One count of conspiracy to commit robbery affecting interstate commerce: 20 years for each count ◾One count of robbery affecting interstate commerce: 20 years ◾One count of possession of a firearm in furtherance of robbery: life, with a mandatory consecutive minimum term of imprisonment of five years ◾One count of conspiracy to distribute or possess with the intent to distribute marijuana: five years ◾One count of impersonating an officer: three years ◾One count of making a search while impersonating an officer: three years Pollack
◾One count of conspiracy to commit robbery affecting interstate commerce: 20 years for each count ◾One count of robbery affecting interstate commerce: 20 years ◾One count of possession of a firearm in furtherance of robbery: life, with a mandatory consecutive minimum term of imprisonment of five years ◾One count of conspiracy to distribute or possess with the intent to distribute marijuana: five years ◾One count of impersonating an officer: three years ◾One count of making a search while impersonating an officer: three years ◾One count of felon in possession of a firearm: 10 years ◾One count of possession with the intent to distribute methamphetamine: 40 years, with a five year mandatory minimum ◾One count of possession with the intent to distribute marijuana: five years Puckett
◾One count of conspiracy to commit robbery affecting interstate commerce: 20 years for each count ◾One count of robbery affecting interstate commerce: 20 years ◾One count of possession of a firearm in furtherance of robbery: life, with a mandatory consecutive minimum term of imprisonment of five years ◾One count of conspiracy to distribute or possess with the intent to distribute marijuana: five years ◾One count of impersonating an officer: three years ◾One count of making a search while impersonating an officer: three years Each of the defendants pled not guilty to the charges. They are scheduled to appear in federal court in San Francisco at 2 p.m. on January 22, 2012 before United States District Court Judge William Alsup.
Assistant United States Attorney Randy Luskey is prosecuting the case with the assistance of Daniel Charlier-Smith. The prosecution is the result of a joint investigation by the Lake County Sheriff’s Office and the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s Santa Rosa Resident Agency.
Please note, an indictment contains only allegations against an individual and, as with all defendants, those named herein must be presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
TUCSON (KGUN9-TV) - Robbers dressed as police broke in to a home Thursday in the 5300 block of S. Country Club Road, but did not take anything or hurt anyone, according to Deputy Tom Peine with the Pima County Sheriff's Department.
Peine tells KGUN9 that the suspects were wearing baseball caps and vests that said "police."
They left behind a tool they used to force entry into the home, where only a 12-year-old boy and 13-year-old girl were inside at the time.
They left without taking anything in a tan or light brown SUV that had police lights.
Peine says there are no suspects in this case. If you have any information please call 9-1-1 or 88-CRIME.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
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