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Libertarian4life
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didn't they say they were just conducting a 'drill'?


Nope. They were really checking for bombs. They issued an all clear twice.

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Why do you find that strange.....
You'd be right there first to b**ch and complain that they didn't
conduct bomb sweeps before the race,
but here you are questioning that they did.
Want some cake??????



I would never complain about not conducting police state tactics..

I think homeland security is a big waste of money.


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I would never complain about not conducting police state tactics..

I think homeland security is a big waste of money.




Of course you do becuase you can't see them doing anything.  
Only thing you see is when something happens and it's a media frenzy.  
Then you shout about how they haven't done something and they are a waste of money and useless.
YOU HAVE NO CLUE AS USUAL!!!
Want some cake????    


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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Quoted from Drooling insanely Joebxr recants his usual drivel:


Of course you do becuase you can't see them doing anything.  
Only thing you see is when something happens and it's a media frenzy.  
Then you shout about how they haven't done something and they are a waste of money and useless.
YOU HAVE NO CLUE AS USUAL!!!
Want some cake????    



You can't prevent terrorism.

You can't prevent suicide killers.

You can only destroy the country's economy trying.



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EXACTLY! it appears that they need to check their dog's 'sniffer'. the LAME STREAM MEDIA yet again appears to be in the knee jerk mode just like sandy hook.


If the bomb sniffing dogs checked the area for bombs, apparently somebody planted the bombs AFTER the sweep was complete.  That would require somebody knowing when and where the sweeps were being conducted.  

The dogs sniffers worked fine, you just can't leak when and where they will be conducted.  


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If there bomb sniffing dogs checked the area for bombs, apparently somebody planted the bombs AFTER the sweep was complete.  That would require somebody knowing when and where the sweeps were being conducted.  

The dogs sniffers worked fine, you just can't leak when and where they will be conducted.  


And who's to say the DoD troops aren't full of patriots.

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Quoted from IGNORANT FOR LIFE

You can't prevent terrorism.
You can't prevent suicide killers.
You can only destroy the country's economy trying.



Total denial of reality.
Wants his cake....BAD!!!
Can't deal with being outed for what he is.
Flip-flopper for the cause!
Ready to condemn...but sits back as entitled!
Believes in freedom of speech but wants to surpress others rights (patents/copyrights).
A true and total WIIFM of the highest caliber...entitled!!!!


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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Quoted from CICERO

If the bomb sniffing dogs checked the area for bombs, apparently somebody planted the bombs AFTER the sweep was complete.  That would require somebody knowing when and where the sweeps were being conducted.  


A backpack with the explosives could be set by your feet at a  viewing area as the race is in
progress...
then you just walk away and detonate the bomb by cellphone.

Your assumption that "somebody knowing when and where the sweeps were being conducted"
is more naive BS.



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Cellphone service in Boston area was diabled specifically for that reason,
because authorities stated another explosive device could be detonated
by a cellphone if there were any others around.


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
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Official story unraveling for Boston marathon bombing; clear evidence points to bomb squad's prior knowledge
University of Mobile's Cross Country Coach said there were bomb-sniffing dogs at both the start and finish lines, long before any explosions went off. He said:
1) Bomb-sniffing dogs were present at the start of the race and the finish line, even before bombs went off.

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Don't be alarmed by those low-flying government planes, bomb-sniffing dogs,
magnetometers, high-tech mobile command centers, SWAT officers, police horses or
robots you may see throughout North Texas in the run-up to Super Bowl XLV next
week, law enforcement officials say.
It's all part of the massive annual security effort that comes with hosting the big game,
which has long been considered a potential terrorist target.

From Superbowl XLV 27 January 2011


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Quoted from Box A Rox


A backpack with the explosives could be set by your feet at a  viewing area as the race is in
progress...
then you just walk away and detonate the bomb by cellphone.

Your assumption that "somebody knowing when and where the sweeps were being conducted"
is more naive BS.


The reports I've heard so far is that the bomb sweeps were at the start of the race and prior to the winner finishing the race.  When the winner finished the race was when the MOST spectators were crowded around the finish line.  The time when the bomb was detonated was well after the winner finished and when the crowd was thinned out. If the person wanted to inflict the most casualties, it would have been when the winner of the race was crossing the finish line...But that's when the bomb sniffing dogs were reportedly there.  I just question why this person waited until there were fewer people around the bomb site, when setting the bombs off when the winner was crossing the finish line would have resulted in far more casualties and injuries.  Unless they didn't want to be detected by the bomb sniffing dogs.




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WASHINGTON — The explosives used in the deadly Boston Marathon bombing were contained
in 6-liter pressure cookers and hidden in black duffel bags on the ground, a person briefed on the
investigation told The Associated Press on Tuesday.

One of the explosives contained shards of metal and ball bearings, and another contained nails.

A second person briefed on the investigation confirmed that at least one of the explosives was made
out of a pressure cooker.


Daily Gazette


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WASHINGTON — The explosives used in the deadly Boston Marathon bombing were contained
in 6-liter pressure cookers and hidden in black duffel bags on the ground, a person briefed on the
investigation told The Associated Press on Tuesday.


Ban high capacity assault pressure cookers and chucks of metal!  Proven to be MUCH deadlier than "assault rifles".


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Total denial of reality.
Wants his cake....BAD!!!
Can't deal with being outed for what he is.
Flip-flopper for the cause!
Ready to condemn...but sits back as entitled!
Believes in freedom of speech but wants to surpress others rights (patents/copyrights).
A true and total WIIFM of the highest caliber...entitled!!!!


I'm really hurt, being ridiculed by a gutless coward that needs his nanny to protect him.

We could end hunger, provide food clothing and medical care for all, but we must spend it on
militarization of our streets instead.

You support Communism. I support freedom.

You support military conquest of American cities.

You could be an honorary Chinese Communist.

Only cowards need protection in a free society.

Handing over the contents of your wallet gladly.

You represent the new America, land of fear and hiding, sacrificing freedom for government
issued protection.

Militarization is the cause of terrorism, not the solution.










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Media Rush To Judgment In Boston Marathon Bombing

By Barry Grey

16 April, 2013


The explosion of two bombs Monday afternoon at the Boston Marathon has been accompanied by a rush to judgment by the media, in which claims of a broad new terror attack are being made without any factual substantiation.

The bombs exploded near the finish line of the marathon in the heart of the city's downtown area. According to media reports, at least three people were killed and 144 wounded, including 15 with critical injuries. Witnesses on the scene and at hospitals have reported that the injuries include amputated lower limbs.

The explosions took place within about 20 seconds of one another and 50-100 yards apart, while thousands of marathoners were still running and many thousands of spectators were lined up along the route. The blasts shattered storefront windows, sending shards of glass and other debris into the crowd.

No individual or organization has as yet claimed responsibility for this brutal and criminal act.

Copley Square was evacuated and will reportedly remain closed off for 24 hours. Parts of the city's public transit system were shut down and aircraft grounded for several hours at Logan International Airport, but service resumed in the early evening.

The federal government increased security around the White House, and New York City announced it had elevated its security operations.

In a press conference several hours after the blasts, Boston Police Commissioner Edward Davis said there was a third explosion several miles away at the John F. Kennedy Library, which authorities were treating as related to the bombings at the marathon. However, officials subsequently said the incident at the JFK Library was "fire-related" and not connected to the marathon bombings.

There were also multiple press reports of a third bomb deliberately detonated by authorities following the initial blasts, and the Associated Press cited an unnamed intelligence official as saying at least one other device was found in the area of the race.

In the absence of clear facts or forensic evidence, many of the statements made by the media amounted to pure speculation, aimed at promoting an unstated political agenda and encouraging a mood of panic. Many assertions contradicted one another. For example, some commentators claimed the explosive devices were small and primitive, while others said they were sophisticated and indicated the work of a terrorist organization.

Some media outlets in particular seemed bent on steering the public toward the view that the Boston events were a terror attack along the lines of 9/11. CNN’s Wolf Blitzer directed the network’s reportage along these lines, encouraging his “expert” commentators to make wide-ranging claims within minutes of the explosions and while the mayhem on the streets of Boston was still unfolding. Jane Harman, the former Democratic chair of the House Intelligence Committee, appearing as a CNN commentator, claimed the bombings pointed in the direction of Al Qaeda.

The Murdoch press’ New York Post ran a banner headline, “Clearly an Act of Terror,” and featured a second article headlined “Authorities ID suspect as Saudi national in marathon bombings, under guard at Boston hospital.”
NBC Evening News featured as its terrorism expert Michael Leitner, former director of the US National Counterterrorism Center under both the Bush and Obama administrations. Without any factual substantiation, Leitner declared that the bombings were the act of a “terrorist organization.”

However, President Obama, in a brief statement from the White House delivered at about 6 PM, pointedly refrained from labeling the incident as an act of terror. He said the “full resources of the federal government” and the “full weight of justice” would be deployed against those responsible, while admitting that the government did not know “who did this or why.”

There appeared to be an element of confusion or conflict within the state over the response to the bombings. The media widely reported that the Federal Bureau of Investigation had declared the bombings to be a terrorist act. And only minutes after Obama’s White House statement, a “senior administration official” told Fox News, “When multiple devices go off, that’s an act of terrorism.”

It is necessary to treat all of the initial reports by the media with extreme skepticism. Whether the Boston bombing was a terror attack by Al Qaeda or by a home-grown right-wing organization, or an act carried out with state involvement, remains unknown.

In maintaining a critical attitude and avoiding falling prey to media manipulation, it is useful to recall the role of the media in previous cases of alleged terrorist attacks. In the anthrax incidents that occurred shortly after 9/11, for example, the media made sweeping claims of Al Qaeda and Islamist involvement, none of which proved to be true.

http://www.countercurrents.org/grey160413.htm


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