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Democrats push bill in Congress to require gun insurance under penalty of fine
Posted on April 2, 2013 by Paraclete



A New York Democratic lawmaker is behind a national push that would force gun owners to buy liability insurance or face a $10,000 fine.

The Firearm Risk Protection Act, pushed by Rep. Carolyn Maloney and seven co-sponsors, follows efforts at the state level to create the controversial new kind of insurance for gun owners.

“For too long, gun victims and society at large have borne the brunt of the costs of gun violence,” Maloney said in a written statement. “My bill would change that by shifting some of that cost back onto those who own the weapons.”

The likelihood, though, of Maloney’s bill gaining any traction is slim. Republicans control the House, and even states where Democrats have sizeable majorities have not approved the insurance idea.

Six states — California, Connecticut, Maryland, Massachusetts, New York and Pennsylvania — have all introduced gun liability insurance legislation over the past few months. None has produced any results.

In Illinois, the House rejected a measure 34-74 that would require people carrying concealed weapons to also carry $1 million in liability insurance. Chicago Democrat Kenneth Dunkin was behind the defeated bill. He said an insurance policy would cost between $500 to $2,000, but Illinois Republicans successfully argued the costs were too high for citizens exercising their constitutional right to carry a gun, and the bill was defeated.

Last week, a similar measure in Connecticut was withdrawn following a two-hour hearing on the issue. Connecticut’s proposal would require firearm owners to maintain excess personal liability insurance and self-defense insurance.

In Maryland, a bill that sought mandatory firearm liability insurance for gun owners was also recently withdrawn.

Because there have been so many setbacks on state levels, many have argued that trying to pass a liability insurance mandate on a national level would be near impossible.

Still, Maloney maintains she won’t back down from the fight.

“We have a long history of requiring insurance for high-risk products — and no one disputes that guns are dangerous,” she said in her written statement. “While many individual states are debating this issue right now, it makes more sense for Congress to establish a national requirement to allow the insurance markets to begin to price the risks involved consistently nationwide.”

Maloney also supports proposed bans on assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition magazines.

The push in Congress for a renewed assault weapons ban has faltered. Though it is expected to get a vote as an amendment to a broader gun control package, few expect it to pass. The debate in Congress lately has centered on whether lawmakers can agree to a system of near-universal background checks.

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INSURANCE IS SUPPOSED TO BALANCE THE SCALES.....

LIE: it's extortion and free $$ for the 1%ers so the rest of us pretend to trust them and feel safer.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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FACT: there is no 'safety' on humans.....

not with mental health
not with drugs
not with public schools
not with insurance
etc etc etc.......

humans are not inanimate objects that pre-crime safeties can be installed....WE ARE NOT RATS IN A FU(KING LAB


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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it's a money grab for the insurance companies AND for those scum bag lawyers!!!

there goes government AGAIN....picking the winners and losers in a 'so called' capitalistic society!!!


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it's a money grab for the insurance companies AND for those scum bag lawyers!!!

there goes government AGAIN....picking the winners and losers in a 'so called' capitalistic society!!!


And the bottom line question is:

How many lives will this proposal save?

The answer is zero.


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And the bottom line question is:

How many lives will this proposal save?

The answer is zero.





BINGO!!! but in America and the history of the traveling insurance salesman, we have legitimized it's existence...it's an
extortion under the guise of 'balancing the scales'.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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BINGO!!! but in America and the history of the traveling insurance salesman, we have legitimized it's existence...it's an
extortion under the guise of 'balancing the scales'.....


Using victims for fun and profit.



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see this middle finger???

How about speech insurance and a bunch more for our other constitutional rights?


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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Quoted from GrahamBonnet
see this middle finger???

How about speech insurance and a bunch more for our other constitutional rights?


Due process insurance too.  If a person is arrested and charged, and expects a trial, they should have to pay for it.


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