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joebxr
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Huh?  That is the point.  The western press has been bombarding us with war propaganda supposedly reporting every military maneuver N Korea is making.  Either N Korea is stupid enough to telegraph their military moves and give us time to maneuver our military in position to counter them, or Americans are stupid enough to believe it.  I'll go with the latter.


Of course that is how you would think, because you have a narrow agenda of
Cissy's world...said it many times and say it again! You can't think any other way!
IT'S A US GOVERNMENT CONSPIRACY!!!!
Can't be real, has to be fabricated by Obama and the US military!



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Of course that is how you would think, because you have a narrow agenda of
Cissy's world...said it many times and say it again! You can't think any other way!
IT'S A US GOVERNMENT CONSPIRACY!!!!
Can't be real, has to be fabricated by Obama and the US military!



You can't deny our government and media have used propaganda before to further war, that is something the left and right will agree on. Knowing that it shouldn't be seen as a bad thing to question our media and government during these times.



"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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I never said conspiracy joebxr...just a little logic.  Something you are devoid of.  

Gulf of Tonkin
USS Liberty
Iraq WMD's


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I never said conspiracy joebxr...just a little logic.  Something you are devoid of.  

Gulf of Tonkin
USS Liberty
Iraq WMD's


It's your comments that show you cannot apply logic, not mine.
You've described three totally different situations than current.
You just can't apply intelligent logic to understand that......
key word "intelligent"...something you are obviously lacking.....
oops, excuse me...."devoid of"!!!!!
Believe what you want...the rest of the world will live in reality.


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You can't deny our government and media have used propaganda before to further war, that is something the left and right will agree on. Knowing that it shouldn't be seen as a bad thing to question our media and government during these times.



Don't deny previous....but really, look at this situation.
It's totally different and unrealistic to think it is a fabrication of our Government.
Question some of the reporting of the situation, that is fair and reasonable, but
you cannot question that this situation is real and not fabricated by the US.


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you cannot question that this situation is real and not fabricated by the US.


I don't know our government really blew it, remember with Iraq it was urgent so we wouldn't have mushroom clouds over our cities, Condoleezza Rice said that. It was all fabricated just like the mobile chemical trucks and secret wmd weapons plants.



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I don't know our government really blew it, remember with Iraq it was urgent so we wouldn't have mushroom clouds over our cities, Condoleezza Rice said that. It was all fabricated just like the mobile chemical trucks and secret wmd weapons plants.



WMD's were proven as BS...so that's that. And the intelligence was not only from the US that was used.
"Japan is fist to be attacked..." is real!
Voiding the treaty is REAL.
The kid is a whack job is REAL!
THREAT IS REAL !!!!!


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WMD's were proven as BS...so that's that. And the intelligence was not only from the US that was used.
"Japan is fist to be attacked..." is real!
Voiding the treaty is REAL.
The kid is a whack job is REAL!
THREAT IS REAL !!!!!


Maybe so but I'm not convinced they're a threat to us yet, besides Japan and others can handle a war for once on their own without our assistance.


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Maybe so but I'm not convinced they're a threat to us yet, besides Japan and others can handle a war for once on their own without our assistance.


Except for the NATO alliance...we turn our back on our allies and that would be total disaster.
I don't want to see a war and I don't want to see nukes used. I'm holding out hope that
he is just posturing and that we never find out the hard way that it's real.


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It's totally different and unrealistic to think it is a fabrication of our Government.


I agree, it isn't a fabrication of our government.

It's a reaction to US government actions.

Keep blockading and trying to starve them to death.

When they react it will not be because we provoked anyone.

Ignorant aggression always has a reaction.

Sanction me? Go ahead, I'll start WW3.

Korea is willing to face annihilation to draw the US into a nuclear world war.

They will gladly die with honor knowing they stood up against the imperialist aggression.



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This reaction can be applied to many other instances, school shootings, bombings, murder-suicide events etc.

You can't prevent last defiant acts with tougher laws, sanctions, searches or more guns.

You prevent these actions through demonstrations of peaceful intent.


Physics lesson:

The force that comes out equals the force that goes in.

You may only put in kilotons of energy per year for a long period of time.

But the eventual and inevitable reaction may come out as megatons at a time.


Hate and force go in, hate and force will come out.

For some reason the US government believes it can outsmart the laws of physics.
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I don't know our government really blew it, remember with Iraq it was urgent so we wouldn't have mushroom clouds over our cities, Condoleezza Rice said that. It was all fabricated just like the mobile chemical trucks and secret wmd weapons plants.



Not only did she lie about WMD's and used mushroom cloud rhetoric, but then her name was floated as a VP candidate after that.

WMD's in Iraq was a "slam dunk".  It was a sure thing.  And of course Saddam Husein was an "evil doer" so we had to invade.

The American public knew everything they needed to know about Iraq from our trusted news agencies and those in the highest offices in government.  The same people that are feeding our reality about N Korea.  


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Korea is willing to face annihilation to draw the US into a nuclear world war.

They will gladly die with honor knowing they stood up against the imperialist aggression.[/b]



So this 29 year old kid that was educated in the west is suicidal?  Kim Jung Un isn't starving, he's living quite well.  

At no point in history has a government launched a nuclear attack against a nuclear armed nation.  I find it very unlikely that N Korea would launch an attack against the nation with the largest and most powerful arsenal of nukes.


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i won't be able to sleep tonight after seeing this.......



This undated file photo released by North Korea's official Korean Central News Agency shows a live shell firing drill being conducted by North Korea at an unconfirmed location. (AFP Photo / KCNA)


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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