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See Cicero!  I told ya if you'd just read some history you might stop making such a fool of
yourself.

After 10 or 12 (lost count) times that Cicero claimed that the USA "INVADED" Vietnam, he
finally admits his mistake with...

"No invasion"

(If only Cicero had paid attention when he was forced into Compulsury Education.)



American military forces enter these contries with hostile intent.  You weren't selling girls scout cookies to the Viet Cong were you?


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American military forces enter these contries with hostile intent.  You weren't selling girls scout cookies to the Viet Cong were you?

Hostile Intent?
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On 8 March 1965, two battalions of U.S. Marines waded ashore on the beaches at
Danang. Those 3,500 soldiers were the first combat troops the United States had dispatched
to South Vietnam to support the Saigon government in its effort to defeat an increasingly
lethal Communist insurgency.
Their defensive mission was to protect an air base the Americans were using for a
series of bombing raids recently conducted on North Vietnam, which had been supplying the
insurgents with against supplies entering the country from the North.
Until that time, the US troops had been on a U.S. military assistance and advisory mission.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Their defensive mission was to protect an air base the Americans were using for a
series of bombing raids recently conducted on North Vietnam.



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Defensive bombing raids


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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N.Korea can only smack talk in the hopes of extorting supplies from other nations as they are pretty much walled off from the rest of the world.

They only can attack the south and they won't do that.




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N.Korea can only smack talk in the hopes of extorting supplies from other nations as they are pretty much walled off from the rest of the world.

They only can attack the south and they won't do that.


Agreed this is nothing they haven't done a dozen times before so why do we feel the need to waste money sinking to their level with our own propaganda and shows of force. I wonder what it cost us to send those 2 billion dollar bombers on a 13,000 mile useless run.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Agreed this is nothing they haven't done a dozen times before so why do we feel the need to waste money sinking to their level with our own propaganda and shows of force. I wonder what it cost us to send those 2 billion dollar bombers on a 13,000 mile useless run.


Had Obama done nothing, the Righties would be blaming him for not standing up to the bully.
The cost of the 13,000 mile mission often is paid for by using this mission to replace a training mission
that was already scheduled.  Since it occurs in the actual air space for the 'real mission', the training
would likely address problems not normally encountered in a training mission inside the USA or to an alied
air base.


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Had Obama done nothing, the Righties would be blaming him for not standing up to the bully.
The cost of the 13,000 mile mission often is paid for by using this mission to replace a training mission
that was already scheduled.  Since it occurs in the actual air space for the 'real mission', the training
would likely address problems not normally encountered in a training mission inside the USA or to an alied
air base.


So you are saying Obama should cave in to the neo-cons and other war mongers, well that doesn't fly either since Obama has nothing to lose by the right attacking him, nope Obama did it on his own since he himself is bloodthirsty. By the way the run was nothing but war mongering and had jack sh*t to do with training, we already know what the B2 is capable of.


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So you are saying Obama should cave in to the neo-cons and other war mongers, well that doesn't fly either since Obama has nothing to lose by the right attacking him, nope Obama did it on his own since he himself is bloodthirsty. By the way the run was nothing but war mongering and had jack sh*t to do with training, we already know what the B2 is capable of.


Read it again Henry.  I never claimed it was about 'training'. That part of my post was about the COST
of the mission.

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"The cost of the 13,000 mile mission often is paid for by using this mission to replace a training mission
that was already scheduled".


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Read it again Henry.  I never claimed it was about 'training'. That part of my post was about the COST
of the mission.



So you admit it was just war mongering by the president, good we agree.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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A liberal president that never has to face re-election is concerned about what his right wing critics think about him?  You believe that I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell ya.


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So you admit it was just war mongering by the president, good we agree.


A training mission to Asia??? Did you read your agenda into my words???



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A training mission to Asia??? Did you read your agenda into my words???



What agenda do I have in this, to call a spade a spade


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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N.Korea can only smack talk in the hopes of extorting supplies from other nations as they are pretty much walled off from the rest of the world.

They only can attack the south and they won't do that.


Agree....


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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North Korea plan to attack US mainland revealed in photographs
North Korea has revealed its plans to strike targets in Hawaii and the continental United States in photo
s taken in Kim Jong-un's military command centre.


By Julian Ryall, Tokyo
12:08PM GMT 29 Mar 2013

The photos appeared in the state-run Rodong newspaper and were apparently taken at an "emergency meeting" early on Friday morning. They show Kim signing the order for North Korea's strategic rocket forces to be on standby to fire at US targets, the paper said, with large-scale maps and diagrams in the background.

North Korean leader Kim Jong-un ordered strategic rocket forces to be on standby to strike US and South Korean targets at any time (EPA)

The images show a chart marked "US mainland strike plan" and missile trajectories that the NK News web site estimates terminate in Hawaii, Washington DC, Los Angeles and Austin, Texas.  

The meeting of the Pyongyang's senior military leaders was called after two US B2 bombers, flying out of bases in Missouri, carried out simulated bombing raids on North Korean targets on an island off the coast of South Korea.

"He finally signed the plan on technical preparations of strategic rockets, ordering them to be on standby to fire so that they may strike any time the US mainland, its military bases in the operational theatres in the Pacific, including Hawaii and Guam, and those in South Korea," the state-run KCNA news agency reported.

A U.S. airforce B-2 Spirit stealth bomber flies over Pyeongtaek, south of Seoul, South Korea

It added that the B2 test flights demonstrated Washington's "hostile intent" and said the "reckless" act had gone "beyond the phase of threat and blackmail."

The North's military was placed on its highest alert level earlier this week and a hotline link with the South Korean military was severed.

North Korea has also cut the mobile Internet link for foreign visitors, only weeks after the 3G service was introduced.

Despite the increasingly belligerent rhetoric and new images emerging from the North Korean regime, analysts believe its missiles are not capable of striking targets as far away as the US mainland and are not, as yet, capable of delivering a nuclear payload.

The images of Kim surrounded by his officers and diagrams of targets in the US are designed for a domestic consumption and to demonstrate the young leader's mastery of military affairs, experts believe.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new.....-in-photographs.html


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