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People should believe a theory only after it's been proven not when it only someones guess.

(Shadow clings to the 3%)
97% of climate scientists agree that climate-warming trends over the past century are very likely
due to human activities, and most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued
public statements endorsing this position.

The following is a partial list of these organizations, along with links to their published statements
and a selection of related resources:
NASA
http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus


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When  scientists have falsified their findings and ignored proven facts that don't fit their theory it becomes junk science.
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(Shadow clings to the 3%)
97% of climate scientists agree that climate-warming trends over the past century are very likely
due to human activities,


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The so-called ‘scientific consensus’ about global warming was crafted from manipulated data, expressed as a lie that says 97% of the world’s climate scientists agree that the science of warming is settled. The pundits and press passed it on to a believing public.

Except it’s wrong. And the public that believed it are looking like fools. Here’s how the ruse happened, acccording to Lawrence Soloman in Financial Post.

There are 2500 scientists associated with the IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change). All 2500, the media believed, endorsed the IPCC’s position on catastrophic global warming predictions. Bad factoid #1: the 2500 scientists were only associated with the IPCC. They did not endorse the IPCC’s position. Some even vehemently disagreed.

Seeking a powerful number they could use more easily, the pundits found a study conducted by the University of Illinois. More than 10,000 earth scientists participated in the study, but the researchers conducting the study highlighted the views of only a cherry-picked 77 of them. Of those, 75 stated their belief of human-caused global warming. Voila! 75 is 97% of 77. Bad factoid #2: The press passed this off as 97% of the world’s scientists believe in manmade climate change. Wow. That's a big number that's easy to pass on.


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Box hoped nobody would dig deeper into that 97% because even he knows that number is full of crap


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It does get tedious trying to educate the unwilling.  If Cicero would read the entire article he might
begin to understand climate change and stop making such an @ss of himself with his lame questions.

For the entire answer go to:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/earth/cause-ice-age.html
NOVA, "what triggers ice ages"

For the short answer:


I read it.  In the first paragraph is said "carbon dioxide is a strong candidate"...That isn't a statement of fact.



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(Shadow clings to the 3%)
97% of climate scientists agree that climate-warming trends over the past century are very likely
due to human activities, ...


Over 97% of scientists used to believe the world was flat.
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Blah Blah Blah "Here’s how the ruse happened, according to Lawrence Soloman in Financial Post.

So who is Henry's expert, Lawrence Soloman???

Lawrence Solomon is a Canadian writer on the environment and the founder and executive
director of "Energy Probe".
Solomon is a lobbyist for the fossil fuel industries.  (huh!  Wonder if that's why he's a Climate
Change Denier?)

And what is Energy Probe, Henry's expert group???
"Energy Probe is a non-governmental environmental policy organization based
in Toronto and best known for its role in opposing nuclear power, and as a
subsidized free-market lobbyist for fossil fuels and well-known
Canadian proponent of climate change denial."

So on one side we have 97% of peer reviewed Scientists
vs
Henry's Oil Industry Lobbyist!


(The hilarious part is that Henry gets his SCIENCE from an OIL COMPANY LOBBYIST!)


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(The hilarious part is that Henry gets his SCIENCE from an OIL COMPANY LOBBYIST!)


So you don't deny the fact only 77 people were picked to make up your 97% claim, your claim has been proven a fraud for awhile now yet you stand by it. Either you believe the cherry picked or you tried to pass the already proven bogus numbers to spread your propaganda.


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So you don't deny the fact only 77 people were picked to make up your 97% claim, your claim has been proven a fraud for awhile now yet you stand by it. Either you believe the cherry picked or you tried to pass the already proven bogus numbers to spread your propaganda.


Really? Only 77?



Myles Allen, head of the Climate Dynamics group at University of Oxford's Atmospheric, Oceanic and Planetary Physics Department. Lead author, IPCC Third Assessment Report. Review editor, Fourth Assessment Report.
Richard Alley (1957- ), American, Earth's cryosphere and global climate change.
Kevin Anderson, is the Director of the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research and is an adviser to the British Government on climate change.
Svante Arrhenius (1859–1927), Swedish, greenhouse effect.

Sallie Baliunas, American, astrophysicist, solar variation.
Robert Balling, American, former director of the Office of Climatology and is a professor of geography at Arizona State University, climatology, global climate change, and geographic information systems.
Édouard Bard, French climate scientist, specialized in past climate reconstruction.
Richard A. Betts, Head of the Climate Impacts strategic area at the Met Office Hadley Centre.
Vilhelm Bjerknes (1862–1951), Norwegian, forecasting, numerical models.
Raymond S. Bradley, American, historical temperatures, paleoclimatology, and climate variability.
Keith Briffa (1952- ), United Kingdom, dendrochronology, temperature history.
Wallace Smith Broecker (1931- ), American, Pleistocene geochronology, radiocarbon dating, and chemical oceanography.
Harold E. Brooks (1959- ), American meteorologist, severe convective storm and tornado climatology as well as conducive atmospheric environments


Ken Caldeira, American, geoengineering, ocean acidification, atmospheric chemistry.
Guy Stewart Callendar, English,(February 1898 - October 1964), steam engineer and inventor who proposed what eventually became known as the Callendar effect, the theory that linked rising carbon dioxide concentrations in the atmosphere to global temperature.
Mark Cane, American, modeling and prediction of the El Niño-Southern Oscillation.
John Christy, director of the Earth System Science Center at The University of Alabama in Huntsville. Best known (with Dr. Roy Spencer) for developing the first version of the satellite temperature record.
William Connolley, British software engineer, writer, and blogger on climatology. Until December 2007 he was Senior Scientific Officer in the Physical Sciences Division in the Antarctic Climate and the Earth System project at the British Antarctic Survey, where he worked as a climate modeller.
Paul J. Crutzen (1933- ), Dutch, stratospheric and tropospheric chemistry, and their role in the biogeochemical cycles and climate.


Kerry Emanuel (1955- ), American, atmospheric dynamics specializing in hurricanes.
Matthew England (1966-), Australian, physical oceanographer and climate dynamicist.


Joe Farman, British, ozone hole above Antarctica
Joseph Fourier (1768–1830), French, greenhouse effect.
Inez Fung American, climate modeling, biogeochemical cycles, and climate change.


Peter Gleick (1956- ), American, hydroclimatologist, hydrologic impacts of climate change, snowfall/snowmelt responses, water adaptation strategies, consequences of sea-level rise.
Jonathan M. Gregory
Jean M. Grove (d. 1927-2001), British, glaciologist; the Little Ice Age


Joanna Haigh, British, solar variability
James E. Hansen (1941- ), American, planetary atmospheres, remote sensing, numerical models, and global warming.
Ann Henderson-Sellers (1952- ), Australian, climate change risk evaluation.
John T. Houghton (1931- ), British, atmospheric physics, remote sensing.


Phil Jones (1952- ), British, instrumental climate change, palaeoclimatology, detection of climate change.
Jean Jouzel, French, glaciologist and climatologist specializing in major climatic shifts


Thomas R. Karl (1951- ), American, climate extremes and variability.
Charles David Keeling (1928–2005), American, atmospheric carbon dioxide measurements, Keeling Curve.
David W. Keith, Canadian, Geoengineering and CO2 capture and storage research, University Professor at SEAS and Harvard Kennedy School


Kurt Lambeck, Australian, cryosphere-hydrosphere-lithosphere interactions, and sea level rise and its impact on human populations.
Richard Lindzen (1940- ), American, dynamic meteorology, especially planetary waves.
Edward Norton Lorenz (1917–2008), American, discovery of the strange attractor notion and coined the term butterfly effect.
James Lovelock (1919- ), British, Gaia hypothesis and biotic feedbacks.


Syukuro Manabe (1931- ), Japanese, pioneered the use of computers to simulate global climate change and natural climate variations.
Gordon Manley (1902–1980), English, Central England temperature (CET) series.
Michael E. Mann (1965- ), American, paleoclimate reconstructions.
Patrick Michaels (1950- ), American climatologist.
Gordon McBean, Canadian, boundary layer research, hydrometeorology and environmental impact research, and weather forecasting.
Milutin Milanković (1879–1958), Serbian, Milankovitch cycles.
John F. B. Mitchell, British, climate modelling and detection and attribution of climate change
Mario J. Molina (1943- ), Mexican, atmospheric chemistry and ozone depletion.
Richard A. Muller (1944- ), American physicist, head of the Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature project, formerly an outspoken critic of current climate change science.


Abraham H Oort

David E. Parker, British, surface temperature trend.
William Richard Peltier (1943- ), Canadian, global geodynamic modeling and ice sheet reconstructions; atmospheric and oceanic waves and turbulence.
Roger A. Pielke, Sr. (1946-), American, climate change, environmental vulnerability, numerical modeling, and atmospheric dynamics.
Raymond Pierrehumbert, idealized climate modeling, Faint young sun paradox.
Vicky Pope, British, Head of the Climate Prediction Programme at the Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research.


Stefan Rahmstorf (1960- ), German, the role of ocean currents in climate change.
Veerabhadran Ramanathan, Indian, general circulation models, atmospheric chemistry, and radiative transfer.
Roger Revelle (1909–1991), American, global warming and chemical oceanography.
Joseph J. Romm (born June 27, 1960) is an American author, blogger, physicist and climate expert.
William Ruddiman, American, palaeoclimatologist, Early Anthropogenic Hypothesis


Hans Joachim Schellnhuber (1950 - ), German climatologist, was an author for the Third Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
Gavin A. Schmidt, American climatologist and climate modeler at the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS).
Stephen H. Schneider (1945–2010), American, Professor of Environmental Biology and Global Change at Stanford University.
Stephen E. Schwartz (1941 - ), American, chemistry of air pollutants, radiative forcing of aerosols on climate.
Richard C. J. Somerville (1941 - ), American, theoretical meteorology and atmospheric physics.
Stocker, Thomas, Swiss, climate dynamics and paleoclimate modeling and reconstruction.
Susan Solomon (1956 - ), American, chlorofluorocarbons and ozone depletion.
J. Curt Stager (1956-), American, paleoclimatology [2], authur of Deep Future: The Next 100,000 Years of Life on Earth.
Peter A. Stott, British, climate scientist .
Hans E. Suess (1909–1993), Austrian, radiocarbon dating, Suess effect.


Simon Tett, British, detection and attribution of climate change, model initialization, and validation.
Peter Thejll (1956- ), Danish, Northern Hemisphere land air temperature, solar variation and greenhouse effect.
Lonnie Thompson (1948- ), American, paleoclimatology, ice cores.
Micha Tomkiewicz (1939- ), American, democratizing climate change, facilitating required energy transition, professor at Brooklyn College, City University of New York.
Kevin E. Trenberth, decadal variability, El Niño-Southern Oscillation.


David Vaughan - ice sheets, British Antarctic Survey.


Peter Wadhams ScD (born 14 May 1948), is professor of Ocean Physics, and Head of the Polar Ocean Physics Group in the Department of Applied Mathematics and Theoretical Physics, University of Cambridge. He is best known for his work on sea ice.
John Michael Wallace, North Atlantic oscillation, Arctic oscillation, El Niño-Southern Oscillation.
Andrew Watson (1952-), British, marine and atmospheric sciences.
Andrew J. Weaver, Canadian, climate modeling and analysis.
Penny Whetton, Australian, regional climate change projections for Australia. A lead author of the IPCC third and fourth Assessment Report on Climate Change.
Carl Wunsch (1941- ), Physical oceanography and ocean acoustic tomography.

The list is not complete or up to date. The list includes scientists from several specialities or disciplines.


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Yup only 77 were cherry picked to give the 97% figure you are claiming, that is a fact that nobody today denies


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Yup only 77 were cherry picked to give the 97% figure you are claiming, that is a fact that nobody today denies


And you have some evidence of this??? (Please not from some Oil Industry Lobbyist this time)


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"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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So are "CLIFF HARRIS and RANDY MANN" two of the 27 climate change deniers???

You offer evidence of two "experts" and I offer (according to you) 77.  What makes you
believe these two and not the other (by your count) 77?  Other than your politics, of course.  


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