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bumblethru
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was the KID threatening them with a gun?????????

did the kid even HAVE a gun???????


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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"surounded"...luv that embellishment.
Protect himself from vilence...did you not read the articles...HE WAS THE ONE THAT ACTED WITH VIOLENCE! 3,000lb assault weapon!!!!!


I didn't embellish, the witness did.  If the guard was assualted by the vehicle, then I assume the guard was in close proximity to the vehicle to get hit.  The witness timeline says the 15 year old gets in the car FIRST, then the guards point their guns at the vehicle, THEN the boy started driving.  

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“He gets in the car and all these security guards start pointing their guns and are, like, get down, get down on the ground,” Baily Mills said. “He just got in the car and started driving and they started shooting their guns at the car.”



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Conflicting stories....thought I already said that information would not be accurate and best is to wait until all information has been gathered so we know what happened.
Of course, again, you say they will "concoct".......
Embellsihment was "surrounded"...article quoting the witness doers not say surrounded....that was your embellishment.
Sheriffs account has kid backing car into an officer "BEFORE" they draw their guns.


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Quoted from joebxr
Embellsihment was "surrounded"...article quoting the witness doers not say surrounded....that was your embellishment.


Whether they were standing in a line, in a circle, in a triangle, in a hexagon, the witness said their was multiple guards aiming their weapons at the 15 year old boy.

BTW...When do you think they are going to report the status of the guards?  The reporters seem to have over looked that information.  We'll have to wait on that.  But they were able to report the details on the 15 year old, what he was charged with, where he was detained, the extend of his injuries...But nothing on the guards.  


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Whether they were standing in a line, in a circle, in a triangle, in a hexagon, the witness said their was multiple guards aiming their weapons at the 15 year old boy.

BTW...When do you think they are going to report the status of the guards?  The reporters seem to have over looked that information.  We'll have to wait on that.  But they were able to report the details on the 15 year old, what he was charged with, where he was detained, the extend of his injuries...But nothing on the guards.  


Words of wisdom from the wizard of word wonking!!!!

Let me call the Governor and find out when they are going to report that informtion that you require...I'll get back to you.


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Words of wisdom from the wizard of word wonking!!!!

Let me call the Governor and find out when they are going to report that informtion that you require...I'll get back to you.


Call the reporters too...I'm concerned about the health of the guards.  I would really like to know the injuries sustained during the assault.  I would imagine the injuries are life threatening seeing how lethal force was used against a 15 year old.


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Call the reporters too...I'm concerned about the health of the guards.  I would really like to know the injuries sustained during the assault.  I would imagine the injuries are life threatening seeing how lethal force was used against a 15 year old.


Anything for you oh mighty Word Wonker....I'll get right on it.

Oh, and I will ask also what this 15 yr old kid was doing there; what kind of issues did he have to be in the school he was in;
why he was at a place that it was common knowledge at the school that you didn't go there;
why he was driving a car; why he ran away; why he backed his car into a guard;
why he hit another car after he left; and what exactly did he do to deserve such inhumane treatment.

May I use your name when I call so that it carries some weight?  After all, I am but a lowly servant and not worthy!!!


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Anything for you oh mighty Word Wonker....I'll get right on it.

Oh, and I will ask also what this 15 yr old kid was doing there; what kind of issues did he have to be in the school he was in;
why he was at a place that it was common knowledge at the school that you didn't go there;
why he was driving a car; why he ran away; why he backed his car into a guard;
why he hit another car after he left; and what exactly did he do to deserve such inhumane treatment.


Those are pretty good questions too.  But I think there is quite a bit more information about the 15 year old boy.  The reports list his injuries, that he was charged with assault to coincide with the justification of the shooting, where they found him, that he crashed the car 1 mile away from the scene of the shooting.  We just haven't heard much about the guards and their well being. I'm really concerned about the guard that was assaulted; he must be really hurt to provoke a response to shoot a 15 year old boy.  


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Those are pretty good questions too.  But I think there is quite a bit more information about the 15 year old boy.  The reports list his injuries, that he was charged with assault to coincide with the concocted justification of the shooting, where they found him, that he crashed the car 1 mile away from the scene of the shooting.  We just haven't heard much about the guards and their well being. I'm really concerned about the guard that was assaulted; he must be really hurt to provoke a response to shoot a 15 year old boy.  


please note correction I have edited for you ...you're welcome!


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Presumption of innocence.

There was no danger to society if the suspicious kid got away.

They had his plate number.
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here goes the sheople believing everything that comes out of the LAME STREAM MEDIA as FACT!!!!

if ya wanna be part of the 'court of public opinion'............ya better ask the questions and get the FACTS!!!

what the hell else is the LAME STREAM MEDIA feeding the sheople???


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The 'Bash A Cop' Board

I've posted on a dozen message boards over the years... this is the only one that I've posted on that
has a deep hatred for the police.
There are bad cops... some are awesome cops... most are somewhere in between.  If you were to make
up your opinion of America's police force strictly by the posts on this board, you would assume that every
cop is a deranged killer.

I knew a few Schdy cops, I have seen Rotterdam police in action, I've briefly known one Glenville cop and
acquaintances with Fulton county Sheriff deputies, Amsterdam city police and several NY state police...
All that I knew were good men trying to do the best job that they could do for their community.
That is not the picture painted on this board by a very few posters here.

The problem seems to originate in the minds of those posters, not in the actions of the police.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Quoted from bumblethru
here goes the sheople believing everything that comes out of the LAME STREAM MEDIA as FACT!!!!

if ya wanna be part of the 'court of public opinion'............ya better ask the questions and get the FACTS!!!

what the hell else is the LAME STREAM MEDIA feeding the sheople???


What are those sheople that can't believe anything that is printed?
Is the Pope retiring or is that another misleading concoction that needs to be questioned and the source needs to validate their statements and reporting?

You make a very good point, and one I've agreed with...
"ya better ask the questions and get the FACTS!!!"....all the anti-guards/anti-governemnt rhetoric is conjecture,
but these guards are convicted and condemed already on this forum.  I've only pointed out questions and details available, and
added the caveat that information is misleading and inaccurate.  Why not wait until we have all the facts.
But therein lies the other rub...if all the facts are not in favor of the "victim" then again, the reporting
is concocted to justify the actions taken...COVER-UP!
CATCH-22 people!


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Quoted from Box A Rox
The 'Bash A Cop' Board


BOX, it's really simple...said it before and wil say it again...
ther are some on this board that whenever there is a MILITARY or POLICE involved incident,
they are GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT...and if proven innocent, THEY ARE STILL GUILTY !!!!

The 15 yr old kid could have been an innocnet victim, but we don't really know (although reports don't seem to tend that way)
Some preach equality on this forum...so let's applky equality...the guards may have been justified in their actions for fear of their life...
but we don't know, (although on this forum they must be and always wil be guilty of wrongdoing)
Let's see if there is a final fact discovery of the incidents and resulting information to answer the questions.


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Quoted from Libertarian4life
Presumption of innocence.

There was no danger to society if the suspicious kid got away.

They had his plate number.


it's all about the "look over here sheople...see what we do to keep you safe, there are criminals every where."


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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