Quoted from Box A Rox

ONE MORE TIME SLOWLY...
HE WAS TRAINED TO DO CLERICAL WORK REGARDING AIRCRAFT MAINTENANCE.  He may have killed
a stapler in the line of duty, or he may have broken a pencil now and then... but trained to kill???
Kill a keg at the slop shoot maybe... but other than that... the only thing he killed in the military was
time.

So the bomb making and bunker building was just a hobby he acquired later in life?

Quoted from Box A Rox

Two vets within a week... and how many non vets "snapped" or otherwise, killed in cold blood
in a week?  10?  20?  a lot more than two!

Well, now that you mention it, 22 Vets snap and kill a vet every fukken day.

Over 8,000 Vets average age over 50 kill a vet(themselves) every year.

Many take others with them.



Every 65 minutes a vets snaps!

1.5 million still have PTSD.

How many non-vet suicides per day?

How many vets to non vets in the country?



Number of suicides per year: 38,364 - 8,000 are vets.

Number of Firearm suicides: 19,392

Number of Suffocation suicides: 9,493
    
Number of poisoning suicides: 6,599

“It’s an epidemic that is not being addressed fully,” said Bob Filner, a Democratic congressman
from San Diego and the senior Democrat on the House Veterans Affairs Committee. “We could
be doing so much more.”

"The number of veterans who take their own lives will be larger than the number of men and women
killed in action in Iraq and Afghanistan over the past entire decade of war. And that, during the next
decade, America will lose more lives to veteran suicide than US forces lost in the Vietnam War.

Each year Veteran suicides are ten times greater than all gun related deaths in Chicago.

Every single day in America, the equivalent number of Vets commit suicide as kids killed in Newtown.


A Newtown equivalent occurs every single day.



Suicide Data Report, 2012
Department of Veterans Affairs
Mental Health Services
Suicide Prevention Program

http://www.va.gov/opa/docs/Suicide-Data-Report-2012-final.pdf

Specifically, more than 69% of all Veteran suicides were among those aged 50 years
and older, compared to approximately 37% among those who were not identified as
Veterans.

Report Conclusions:

While the percentage of all suicides reported as Veterans has decreased, the number of
suicides has increased

A majority of Veteran suicides are among those age 50 years and older. Male Veterans
who die by suicide are older than non-Veteran males who die by suicide.

The age distribution of Veteran and non-Veteran women who have died from suicide is
similar.

The demographic characteristics of Veterans who have died from suicide are similar
among those with and without a history of VHA service use.

Among those at risk, the first 4 weeks following service require intensive monitoring and
case management (which verifies the importance of the Enhanced Care Package for those
at high risk).

There is preliminary evidence in 2012 indicating a decrease in the rate of non-fatal
suicide events for VHA utilizing Veterans.

Decreasing rates of non-fatal suicide events are associated with increasing age.

The majority of Veterans who have a suicide event were last seen in an outpatient
setting. A high prevalence of non-fatal suicide events result from overdose or other
intentional poisoning.

Continued increases in calls to the Veterans Crisis Line may be associated with efforts
to enhance awareness of VHA services through public education campaigns.

The majority of callers to the Veterans Crisis Line are male and between the ages of 50-59.

Quoted from joebxr

Sandy Hook was not a Vet...why do you insist on distorting things.  
The atrocities have been perpetrated by people that are unbalanced.

Veterans commit a Sandy Hook equivalent every day.

It does not stop.

Every single day.

Plus that's just the successful suicides by Vets.

The total suicide attempts is nearly double the successful suicide rate.

Quoted from Box A Rox

Veterans get a property tax exemption, combat veterans get a larger property tax deduction.

everyone should get that....mental combat for life

Quoted from Box A Rox

There are over 900 firearms murders a month...  two have been reported having been attributed to
Vets... is that your point?

point is......ya just never know....pre-emptive safety is required

Quoted from Libertarian4life

Veterans commit a Sandy Hook equivalent every day.

It does not stop.

Every single day.

Plus that's just the successful suicides by Vets.

The total suicide attempts is nearly double the successful suicide rate.

WAH WAH WAH !
Words of wisdom from the resident SICKO!!!  
Worth NOTHING!!!!!

Quoted from Box A Rox

Two vets within a week... and how many non vets "snapped" or otherwise, killed in cold blood
in a week?  10?  20?  a lot more than two!

And how many AR-15's were used, maybe 2 out of 500 shootings if that, oh but we need to ban AR-15's even though they make up the least used weapon. Going by the way you push your agenda we have a strong case to disarm all vets from owning all guns, you guys are obviously not fit to be around guns after what you were taught in bootcamp. You guys were trained to be killers and history has shown your kind to be amongst the most horrible killers in this country. You know who was trained in the army as a engineer



Military training was also a factor in the death of a president, Oswald also served as a Marine



Do you know who this jarhead is?



His name is Charles Whitman and he was one of the first school shooters in history, we may never know but his actions may have caused copy cat shootings that continue to this day in our schools.

Quoted from joebxr

WAH WAH WAH !
Words of wisdom from the resident SICKO!!!  
Worth NOTHING!!!!!

You don't very well make the case that Vets are not unstable .

You and Box see terrorists and threats right here among other typists.

You display "ANGER!!!!!" regularly, with the all caps, meant to display yelling, and a half
dozen exclamation points to really, really, really really really, really emphasize your
shouting.

Large text is used to emphasize important sections of a post.

Large text in all caps is screaming.

Please chill out and stop seeing paranoia based threats here.

Don't make us report you to the VHA.

In just this post alone you yelled while crying, called a peace loving protector of human rights
and the constitution a sicko while also yelling.

Then you yell your closing statement with 5 exclamation points.

Reality check time.

Quoted from joebxr

WAH WAH WAH !
Words of wisdom from the resident SICKO!!!  
Worth NOTHING!!!!!

I posted facts.

You interpret facts as words of wisdom from a sicko.

Reality check.

Reality check...YOU ARE A SICKO !!!!!!

Quoted from Libertarian4life

You display "ANGER!!!!!" regularly, with the all caps, meant to display yelling, and a half
dozen exclamation points to really, really, really really really, really emphasize your
shouting.

Large text is used to emphasize important sections of a post.

Large text in all caps is screaming.

Please chill out and stop seeing paranoia based threats here.

Don't make us report you to the VHA.

In just this post alone you yelled while crying, called a peace loving protector of human rights
and the constitution a sicko while also yelling.

Then you yell your closing statement with 5 exclamation points.

Reality check time.

You play the CAPS, LINE SPACING GAME, GIANT FONT game; WAV file idiocy...I am doing it to make fun of YOU SICKO!!!!

Get a grip on yourself before I report you!!!!

Please, send my name to the VHA...really, go right ahead.

That will give me excuse to report you and your hate mongering!!!!!

Quoted from joebxr

You play the CAPS, LINE SPACING GAME, GIANT FONT game; WAV file idiocy...I am doing it to make fun of YOU SICKO!!!!

Get a grip on yourself before I report you!!!!

Please, send my name to the VHA...really, go right ahead.

That will give me excuse to report you and your hate mongering!!!!!

I never posted any words of hate.

That's the guy in your mirror.

Don't blame me because you need someone to blame when you go postal.

You see threats and hatred from people seeking peace. You fail to comprehend the
meanings of the words of peace. You are in need of counseling.

I repeat. I have never posted a word of hate or ever espoused violence of any kind.

It's all in your head.  You are obsessed with me and stalk me all over these boards
because I said I spat on Viet Nam vets. Because I call people who kill babies,
baby killers.

You are obsessed with defending death and violence.

Seriously, you have no reason to call me a sicko for typing words of dissent against
death and violence.

You come to a public forum, declaring that you have weapons and call people threats
for having opinions that you don't like.

Seriously rethink your behavior.

If hating death and violence is a hate crime, I plea guilty.

Quoted from Libertarian4life

I never posted any words of hate.

That's the guy in your mirror.

Don't blame me because you need someone to blame when you go postal.

You see threats and hatred from people seeking peace. You fail to comprehend the
meanings of the words of peace. You are in need of counseling.

I repeat. I have never posted a word of hate or ever espoused violence of any kind.

It's all in your head.  You are obsessed with me and stalk me all over these boards
because I said I spat on Viet Nam vets. Because I call people who kill babies,
baby killers.

You are obsessed with defending death and violence.

Seriously, you have no reason to call me a sicko for typing words of dissent against
death and violence.

You come to a public forum, declaring that you have weapons and call people threats
for having opinions that you don't like.

Seriously rethink your behavior.

You are in serious need of medication....or....you need to stop taking so many!!!!

Quoted from joebxr

You are in serious need of medication....or....you need to stop taking so many!!!!

Are you asking for help?

You keep posting things that seem to be what you think about yourself in an attempt to find help.

I really don't understand your obvious pain that you are feeling.

I know that you have strong feelings and beliefs. You must accept that others are entitled to the same.

Every topic discussed, I take the side of stopping deaths, military actions, reducing abortions,
using non-violent Libertarian ideas, that somehow threaten you.

If you need help, just send me a private message, If you just want someone to talk to off the
boards, let me know. I'm not afraid. I would just like to help you to feel better.

I don't want to be the guy who made you go postal. That is not my intent.

I have real concern for you and your safety. You display anger and hostility against people
who wish to harm no one.

In all seriousness, if it would help, I would be glad to talk with you at any time. My telephone
number is in the book. Call me any time day or night if you need someone to talk to about
anything at all.

Peace brother.

Please forgive any comments that may have offended you.

I am sorry to have upset you and wish you well.