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Libertarian4life
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Saddam used the deaths of Iraqi people to further his military ambitions, instead of fixing Iraq's
infrastructure.  


So he was a Nazi. That spent the money on weapons while people starved to death.

Like the US government does today.

We have the capability to destroy the entire solar system, but we can't make sure that ALL Americans get fed
or medical care first.

So the new Nazis be us.


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So he was a Nazi. That spent the money on weapons while people starved to death.

Like the US government does today.

We have the capability to destroy the entire solar system, but we can't make sure that ALL Americans get fed
or medical care first.

So the new Nazis be us.




People can't afford to pay for kids, no problem, we'll let them abort.

People don't have enough food or medical care, they should have aborted sooner.

You can't fight terrorism and prevent the US holocaust too.

Weapons are gladly funded.

Taking care of Americans is entitlement pandering.




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So he was a Nazi. That spent the money on weapons while people starved to death.

Like the US government does today.

We have the capability to destroy the entire solar system, but we can't make sure that ALL Americans get fed
or medical care first.

So the new Nazis be us.





they are all fed only it's not nutritional... being hungry IS NOT a bad thing, starving is different and includes
organ failure and life long damage...as does the food pyramid the government impresses upon the masses that dont
farm for themselves anymore.

as for the health care, everyone has access on an emergency basis, the chronic sicknesses can be fixed by fixing
the food pyramid and farming for themselves, not having government farming conglomerates the support the
poor pyramid. This would also help the obesity issue.

again, feeling hungry is not a bad thing, it's message from the body, you could eat a snickers bar and not be hungry,
or pancakes, or a piece of bread, or drink fortified milk etc etc and you wouldn't be hungry but you would still be
malnourished. because THAT'S the standard American diet. government subsidized farming industry that enriches and
fortifies food that really has no real nutritional value other than as fillers.


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Where did ya get this info from...........THE LAME STREAM MEDIA???

Again ya fell for the LIE and PROPAGANDA!!!


YUP, The same place that will tell you that the Holocaust is an actual event, backed up by witnesses
from multiple sources, confessions of the guilty, stories of the survivors, photographs, and the bodies of
many of the victims.

YEA Bumbler... You can believe your conspiracy sites... and I'll stick to the facts.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Yossi
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It is pretty clear that you do not know about the Holocaust ofr understand what makes the HOlocaust unique in history.  The killing of six million Jews is unique because they were murdered ONLY because they were Jews.  There were no political reasons--there was also the killing of another 5 million that the Nazi regime felt were inferior--Gypsies, Polish intelegentsia, homosexuals, people who opposed Hitler.  Another 60 million died in the war.  "Control the media" all those types of comments are part of the lie spread by Hitler.  I suspect some of you would have followed his lead because you sheople would have believed all the lies he spread to get into power.  How easy it was for him to convince Germans that they were superior.  It was right after they lost a war.  This board is even more despicable than I originally thought.  Shame on you fools.
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Who else believes that the Holocaust is a hoax???



The KKK: Nazi salute and Holocaust denial

Bumblers fellow "believers"... the KKK


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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All I can say is that when a top aide to the Egyptian president says this, it makes me VERY uneasy that we just sent 30 F-16 fighters to them...


"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
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It is pretty clear that you do not know about the Holocaust ofr understand what makes the HOlocaust unique in history.  The killing of six million Jews is unique because they were murdered ONLY because they were Jews.  There were no political reasons--there was also the killing of another 5 million that the Nazi regime felt were inferior--Gypsies, Polish intelegentsia, homosexuals, people who opposed Hitler.  Another 60 million died in the war.  "Control the media" all those types of comments are part of the lie spread by Hitler.  I suspect some of you would have followed his lead because you sheople would have believed all the lies he spread to get into power.  How easy it was for him to convince Germans that they were superior.  It was right after they lost a war.  This board is even more despicable than I originally thought.  Shame on you fools.


That's your standard state curriculum version of the story.  That's because the history of the Zionist movement which began in the late 1800's and continued through 1948 is never taught to the majority of Americans.  Nobody knows about the Balfour Declaration or Dr. Weizmann and Theodor Herzl and the Zionist movement taking place in Europe and the political influence it had on the Jewish populations many Eastern European countries, especially Russia.  The Zionist movement was an effort to convince the Jewish populations in Europe to no longer recognize their nationalist heritage.  So no longer was a Russian that was Jewish a Russian at all, but now politically Jewish and looking for their own nation and their own government.

We are taught that Hitler and the German people woke up one morning and just started hating Judaism because of their belief in Moses. It was the politicization of Jews by the Zionist, that is what many Europeans leaders feared.  

And many Jewish anti-Zionist like Montegu feared the anti-Semetic reaction to the Zionist movement.

Montegu said:
"...I assume that it means that Mahommedans and Christians are to make way for the Jews and that the Jews should be put in all positions of preference and should be peculiarly associated with Palestine in the same way that England is with the English or France with the French, that Turks and other Mahommedans in Palestine will be regarded as foreigners, just in the same way as Jews will hereafter be treated as foreigners in every country but Palestine. Perhaps also citizenship must be granted only as a result of a religious test."


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I'm saddened and amazed!     


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Quoted from Box A Rox
I'm saddened and amazed!     


About what exactly? be grateful we can actually question such events in this country, other places it is a crime to deny or even question what took place back then.



"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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I am with you Box.  It is frightening that this kind of rhetoric is being tossed around on this board.  I will forward these comments to Jewish Federation of oNortheastern NY and in particular to Holocaust Survivors and Friends Education Office.  Having been involved with bringing the Anne Frank Exhibit to the Capital District in 1992 and again in 96 it appears the 400 plus students who came to see the exhibit from Mohonasen School district had no impact on the students.  Henry--YOU should know better.  Most of us know these other fools for trolls and bigots--didn't see it coming from you.
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I am with you Box.  It is frightening that this kind of rhetoric is being tossed around on this board.  I will forward these comments to Jewish Federation of oNortheastern NY and in particular to Holocaust Survivors and Friends Education Office.  Having been involved with bringing the Anne Frank Exhibit to the Capital District in 1992 and again in 96 it appears the 400 plus students who came to see the exhibit from Mohonasen School district had no impact on the students.  Henry--YOU should know better.  Most of us know these other fools for trolls and bigots--didn't see it coming from you.


C'mon Yossi, join in the discussion.  You are the self proclaimed board expert on Jewish issues.  I am interested in your views and extensive knowledgw on Zionism and the World Zionist Organization and its history.  


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... That's because the history of the Zionist movement which began in the late 1800's and continued
through 1948 is never taught to the majority of Americans.  Nobody knows about the Balfour Declaration
or Dr. Weizmann and Theodor Herzl and the Zionist movement taking place in Europe and the political
influence it had on the Jewish populations many Eastern European countries, especially Russia.  The
Zionist movement was an effort to convince the Jewish populations in Europe to no longer recognize
their nationalist heritage.  So no longer was a Russian that was Jewish a Russian at all, but now politically
Jewish and looking for their own nation and their own government.


What was their intent? Were they considering themselves some sort of sovereign citizens, denouncing
citizenship, and intending to form their own nation? That seems to be right wing extremism.

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We are taught that Hitler and the German people woke up one morning and just started hating Judaism
because of their belief in Moses. It was the politicization of Jews by the Zionist, that is what many
Europeans leaders feared.  


I was taught similarly. but later learned from other sources that Hitler blamed, the Jews, the Gypsies
the handicapped, the Homosexuals and all the minorities for all the liberal infestation of society that
contributed to the less than perfect superior German racial purity, which he used to gain popularity
in his rise to power. The German population in general were racist and hated the minorities that
infected their gene pool. Hitler used this wave of hatred of the uncleanliness of those people to become
their leader.

Quoted from CICERO

And many Jewish anti-Zionist like Montegu feared the anti-Semetic reaction to the Zionist movement.

Montegu said:
"...I assume that it means that Mahommedans and Christians are to make way for the Jews and
that the Jews should be put in all positions of preference and should be peculiarly associated with
Palestine in the same way that England is with the English or France with the French, that Turks and
other Mahommedans in Palestine will be regarded as foreigners, just in the same way as Jews will
hereafter be treated as foreigners in every country but Palestine.
Perhaps also citizenship must be
granted only as a result of a religious test."


That sounds like present day Israel. They too believe in racial purity and everyone else is less than
perfect.

But I feel the same way when I hear Americans raging against Mexicans that just want to come and
live here. That America is heading in the same direction, fearing political change that will no longer
favor them, but will be broader and more inclusive, devaluing their place in society, by bringing in
more, and just as equal, different races and ideas. Worrying about changing the votes, worrying
about sucking more entitlements from their wallets, worrying that their own kids or grandchildren
will be speaking Spanish.

We've been through this fear before when them uppity coloreds, the descendants of the captured
slaves that we purchased at gunpoint, decided they were equal men and deserved an equal place
in society.

I don't deny the holocaust. I don't believe Hitler was alone believing in the superiority of racial purity.

They just seem to be different Klans battling each other in the middle east and Europe for the last
hundred years. While the old school racist idiots fight for control and power, their kids are busy
intermingling the gene pools to make everyone the same. Just as has been done in the US over
the past 50 years.

Don't be Americans, Mexicans, Blacks, Hispanics, Chinese, Asians, etc. just be humans. This is
all about keeping control and denying it to others.

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I have made it a rule of not entering in any discussion with Holocaust deniers.  You should be ashamed.
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Quoted from CICERO


C'mon Yossi, join in the discussion.  You are the self proclaimed board expert on Jewish issues.  I am
interested in your views and extensive knowledge on Zionism and the World Zionist Organization and
its history.  


Yes, I too would like to hear your input. Please tell us the facts as you see them. I have explained
my interpretation of these events. Feel free to alter my  knowledge.

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