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Libertarian4life
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There's a giant unused modern style building on Hamburg St. the second building past Rollerama.

It could be the police station, courthouse and the town offices combined.

2696 Hamburg St.



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There's a giant unused modern style building on Hamburg St. the second building past Rollerama.

It could be the police station, courthouse and the town offices combined.

2696 Hamburg St.





LOL...yup



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ROTTERDAM
Officials look at leasing facility
Police station, courthouse too costly to build

BY JUSTIN MASON Gazette Reporter

    With hardly any money in the till to pay for a new police station and courthouse, Rotterdam officials are now considering an option to lease one.
    Supervisor Harry Buffardi said discussions with several private developers are ongoing to determine whether a public safety building could be constructed without taxpayer dollars and then leased back to the town. He expects to decide by March whether a lease or lease-to-buy arrangement are viable options for the town to finally replace the aged three-story brick building on Princetown Road.
    The crucial element is cost. Buffardi said he’s not interested in any idea that will cause the town to exceed the state-imposed 2 percent tax cap, meaning the expense of building a new public safety facility must fi t within this framework.
    “I don’t know if we can do it or not,” he acknowledged Wednesday. “We’ll entertain any idea at this point to bring this home.”
    Town officials began meeting with builders last summer and reviewing preliminary sketches to start determining the cost per square foot of a new structure. During these discussions, several developers suggested leasing as an option.
    “Several companies contacted us when we started looking around,” he said.
    Buffardi is the latest in a growing line of Rotterdam supervisors to tackle the topic of a new public safety facility. Now more than a century old, the existing building was originally constructed to house the Jefferson School and has been outgrown by the town’s bustling justice court.
    Police have complained the building is thoroughly inadequate for their operations. The structure’s limited size has cramped many of the department’s offices, and its design as a school has made it difficult for them to move prisoners from the small jail cell to the court.
MANY PROBLEMS
    The building also hasn’t undergone any extensive renovation in years and, like many older structures, develops problems that become costly to repair. In recent years, the station has suffered a roof collapse that drenched several of the department’s offices and a boiler problem that left it without heat.
    Rotterdam budgeted $31,500 to heat and provide electricity for the building this year, according to the budget. An additional $20,000 is allocated for repairs to the building — an increase of $5,000 over the previous year.
    But despite four consecutive supervisors identifying the need for a new public safety facility, Rotterdam has no money or land set aside for it. The town has spent more than $76,000 over 10 years to study the issue but appears no closer to getting a shovel in the ground.
    The largely defunct and dilapidated, townowned Curry Road Shopping Center was considered as a site for the new building in 2004, but a study determined the town would need to bond between $10 million and $16 million to build the structure.
    More recently, a study conducted in 2011 found the Grand Union building on Hamburg Street could be converted into a public safety facility for roughly $7 million. This cost didn’t, however, include the purchase price of the privately owned property.
    Buffardi said some of the expense of leasing a new facility can be curtailed by eliminating the high cost of operating the existing building. The town could also realize savings through the county’s consolidation of dispatch services.
    “We’re actually trying to come up with a numbers analysis to see if the town can afford this,” he said.
    County officials have issued a request for proposal to develop a centralized dispatch facility. County Attorney Chris Gardner said the new call center could be located either in an existing building or as part of a new construction.
    “It could be sited anywhere in the county,” he said.


http://www.dailygazette.net/De.....r01100&AppName=1
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The largely defunct and dilapidated, townowned Curry Road Shopping Center was considered as a site for the new building in 2004, but a study determined the town would need to bond between $10 million and $16 million to build the structure.

    More recently, a study conducted in 2011 found the Grand Union building on Hamburg Street could be converted into a public safety facility for roughly $7 million. This cost didn’t, however, include the purchase price of the privately owned property.



The property is assessed at full market value of $450,000. Taxes are $6,000. The $450,000 purchase price is the roadblock?

Plenty of parking, handicapped accessible, a decade long eyesore and the project would be recycling, instead of building new.



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VAT A DEAL! IT WON'T COST ANYTHING! REALLY!


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The idea is certainly worth looking into.  The current police/justice center needs to be replaced and we need to be exploring all viable options to replace it.


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The idea is certainly worth looking into.  The current police/justice center needs to be replaced and we need to be exploring all viable options to replace it.


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Rotterdam, the town with a champagne taste and the price of a beer.
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“It could be sited anywhere in the county,” he said.


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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“It could be sited anywhere in the county,” he said.


They were talking about the dispatch only, being located anywhere.

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They were talking about the dispatch only, being located anywhere.



my point exactly.....who chooses?


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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Buffardi said some of the expense of leasing a new facility can be curtailed by eliminating the high cost of operating the existing building. The town could also realize savings through the county’s consolidation of dispatch services.


it's a cog


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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my point exactly.....who chooses?


Anywhere?

OK. Screw it, get India on the phone and let's set up our 911 calls to an outsourced company for $10 a month.

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Anywhere?

OK. Screw it, get India on the phone and let's set up our 911 calls to an outsourced company for $10 a month.



BINGO!!!!


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Buffiodiot is only watching out for his buds - watch Im sure he knows the owner of the Grand Union building - or a little kick back  - why isnt anyone watching out for the people of this town and the cost to live here !!!
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