Oh wow you show a picture of only one type of hellfire, you do know they make fragmentation hellfires for a expanded kill radius Please tell me again how this can't cause collateral deaths
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Much of what you see on line is BS. People post pics to fit their agenda... and they are often bogus.
I ran your pic above through Tin Eye... an image recognition site. The pic came back as near as I can tell with this caption. Pablo Bartholomew/Gamma, la India. El diciembre de 1984. Bopal (Bhopal), la India. El niño que ha perecido como resultado del derrame del gas tóxico junto a la avería en la fábrica química la Unión el Carburo (Union Carbide). My spanish sucks but it appears those lil babies you posted were killed in a Union Carbide chemical disaster in 1984... NOT AS A RESULT OF WAR! See L4Life... everything is NOT as it appears. You were wrong yet again today.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
One thing for sure... if she was reported 'injured in a us drone strike', she will get medical attention, and compensation$. Hence the vast number of reported injuries.
Yes throw money at the problem that will fix it, typical liberal action.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Oh wow you show a picture of only one type of hellfire, you do know they make fragmentation hellfires for a expanded kill radius Please tell me again how this can't cause collateral deaths
Henry... By the look of the video I would assume the video is from Afghanistan. Us troops are at war in that country. You do know that right? We can argue whether they should be there or not but if they are there, and at war, they should use what ever weapons necessary for the target at hand. In war people die. If you want to discuss the reason for the war or who got us there, that is a different story. Killing is what war is about. If you don't want the USA to keep killing in Afghanistan, then we agree. IMO we should have left when Bin Laden escaped back in 2002 under GWB, and I have expressed that opinion many times.
I could post destruction of 2 500 pound hell fires going off, and in some cases they would be used, but they in most cases fit the weapon to the target. As in your video, they were trying to kill the most enemy with the least expenditure of weapons.
Of course there is collateral deaths, but they are kept to a minimum in a war zone and in the case of Yemen or Pakistan, they often let the target go rather than a clean hit in a crowded area.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Yes throw money at the problem that will fix it, typical liberal action.
That's not a liberal action or a conservative action. If you are injured in a car wreck in Iraq or Afghanistan the US may help you out if they can with medical attention. If you SAY you were injured by a us weapon you WILL be treated and $$$ Compensated. Want to make a few thousand dollars in a US war zone? Claim that your car wreck was caused by US bombs. Works every time!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
"TBIJ reports that from June 2004 through mid-September 2012, available data indicate that drone strikes killed 2,562 - 3,325 people in Pakistan, of whom 474 - 881 were civilians, including 176 children. TBIJ reports that these strikes also injured an additional 1,228 - 1,362 individuals," according to the Stanford/NYU study.
Based on interviews with witnesses, victims and experts, the report accuses the CIA of "double-striking" a target, moments after the initial hit, thereby killing first responders.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
"TBIJ reports that from June 2004 through mid-September 2012, available data indicate that drone strikes killed 2,562 - 3,325 people in Pakistan, of whom 474 - 881 were civilians, including 176 children. TBIJ reports that these strikes also injured an additional 1,228 - 1,362 individuals," according to the Stanford/NYU study.
Based on interviews with witnesses, victims and experts, the report accuses the CIA of "double-striking" a target, moments after the initial hit, thereby killing first responders.
As posted above, children are sometimes injured in these actions. Many of the targets are on purpose located near children to deter an attack... human shield with your own kids so to speak.
By your numbers, 3000 were not civilians and not kids, so we can assume they were combatants. (Al Qaeda) Of the 600 or so who were civilians... think about it... Winston Churchill was a civilian... Osama BinLaden when he ordered the attack on the WTC, was a civilian. The highest ranking Al QAEDA are all civilians, not military, yet they are legitimate targets of this war.
I would assume that the policy of Double Striking is to insure the destruction of a target. High value targets are often hardened and a hit after the initial hit to weaken a hardened target makes sense militarily.
From CNN
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However, an analysis by the New America Foundation says that the civilian casualty rate from drone strikes has been dropping sharply since 2008 despite the rising death toll. "The number of civilians plus those individuals whose precise status could not be determined from media reports -- labeled 'unknowns' by NAF -- reported killed by drones in Pakistan during Obama's tenure in office were 11% of fatalities," said Bergen. "So far in 2012 it is close to 2%. Under President Bush it was 33%."
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
When I was in Vietnam we used to listen to Hanoi Hanna on the radio. Most broadcasts would include that a US air mission had hit either a school, an orphanage or a hospital. It was like some kind of super accurate war on off limits targets... our bombs either on purpose or by mistake would ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS hit at least one school orphanage or hospital.
A French and Indian report at the time started to verify the incidents, and there were some, but most were bogus. For one thing the USA would have eliminated every school hospital and orphanage in Hanoi at the rate they were being reported. Much of the damage was filmed by sympathetic foreign press who would later say, the pic of a red cross on the supposed hospital had fresh red paint where it was painted after the damage was done. Many of the targets were recurring and would be bombed often. In those areas, every building near the target area had a red cross on the roof. I would assume that the propaganda war is still going on in today's wars by both sides.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Much of what you see on line is BS. People post pics to fit their agenda... and they are often bogus.
I ran your pic above through Tin Eye... an image recognition site. The pic came back as near as I can tell with this caption. Pablo Bartholomew/Gamma, la India. El diciembre de 1984. Bopal (Bhopal), la India. El niño que ha perecido como resultado del derrame del gas tóxico junto a la avería en la fábrica química la Unión el Carburo (Union Carbide). My spanish sucks but it appears those lil babies you posted were killed in a Union Carbide chemical disaster in 1984... NOT AS A RESULT OF WAR! See L4Life... everything is NOT as it appears. You were wrong yet again today.
Your ignorance and denial of atrocities is noted.
The web page is called the cheeky libertarian and states it is from a drone attack of Obamas.
Much of what you see on line is BS. People post pics to fit their agenda... and they are often bogus.
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So your argument is just because people claim that the US government killed their children, unless you can post photos and no one claims it's something else, it never happened.
Denial that children were killed by drones is why they hate us.
Children, adults, homes, businesses, what's the difference?
No arrest, not even a warrant, no trials, no convictions, just bomb the hell out of whoever you want.
This is terrorism.
The Adam Lanza/Barack Obama method. Just kill who you want and let jackwipes deny it for you.
L4Life... Your ignorance and denial of the FACTS is noted. That isn't the web page that I found on Tin EYE. Try this one of your photo... It's from World Press Photo, Photo of the year 1983
Year 1983 Photographer Mustafa Bozdemir Nationality Turkey Organization / Publication Hürriyet Gazetesi Category World Press Photo of the Year Prize World Press Photo of the Year Date 30-10-1983 Country Turkey Place Koyunoren Caption Kezban Özer (37) finds her five children buried alive after a devastating earthquake. At five o'clock in the morning she and her husband were milking the cows as their children slept. A few minutes later, 147 villages in the region were destroyed by an earthquake of magnitude 7.1 on the Richter scale; 1,336 people died. http://archive.worldpressphoto...../trefwoord/year/1983
Looks like every post you made today is inaccurate.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
So your argument is just because people claim that the US government killed their children, unless you can post photos and no one claims it's something else, it never happened. Denial that children were killed by drones is why they hate us. Children, adults, homes, businesses, what's the difference? No arrest, not even a warrant, no trials, no convictions, just bomb the hell out of whoever you want. This is terrorism. The Adam Lanza/Barack Obama method. Just kill who you want and let jackwipes deny it for you.
OK L4life. I get it! You really aren't this dumb right??? This is just a scam?
Pretty funny! I really thought you were some kind of nutjob having a nervous breakdown there for a minute. Good one! Ya really had me goin!
Anytime you are interested in a serious conversation, without the ragin dumb act, it might be interesting!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
L4Life... Your ignorance and denial of the FACTS is noted. That isn't the web page that I found on Tin EYE. Try this one of your photo... It's from World Press Photo, Photo of the year 1983
Year 1983 Photographer Mustafa Bozdemir Nationality Turkey Organization / Publication Hürriyet Gazetesi Category World Press Photo of the Year Prize World Press Photo of the Year Date 30-10-1983 Country Turkey Place Koyunoren Caption Kezban Özer (37) finds her five children buried alive after a devastating earthquake. At five o'clock in the morning she and her husband were milking the cows as their children slept. A few minutes later, 147 villages in the region were destroyed by an earthquake of magnitude 7.1 on the Richter scale; 1,336 people died. http://archive.worldpressphoto...../trefwoord/year/1983
Looks like every post you made today is inaccurate.
So my source is crap but your 2 sources from different decades are accurate?
You are still in denial. The children are dying from drone strikes.
Yet you fight feverishly to find a diversion from the guilt of the death of the innocent.
Looks like every post you made today is inaccurate.
Well if you are right, the world loves us, people won't continue to kill with nothing more than self justification and all you need is more laws to make life perfect.
If I am right, the slaughter of the innocent will continue, mimicking the actions of your masters.
The rest of the world will grow more enemies for us every day as well.
Perhaps you can pass a law that no one is allowed to hate the US for rightfully killing people without arrest, trial and conviction.
maybe the hormones in the food supply interrupt our ability to be rational with a gun/life/choices....
I say stop buying the meat at the store(it's full of SH!T) get a gun and go kill'em....venison all around.....rabbit/squirrel etc etc...
when we are not fighting over the cost of our food supply and just supply our own we are much calmer...not to mention it is just plain rewarding and much healthier.....
the human young are being poisoned right from the womb.....
keeping bearing arms is the least of our worries....I know how much some folks appreciate the system feeding, it's easier and their bed is much more fluffed....oh, then there's all that 'care taking' just waiting at the end of our lives....short and sweet
so who cares if we poison the human young's mind with social engineering via food/medicine/water/sesame street/tv etc.....
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
Please tell me again how this can't cause collateral deaths
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