Exactly the point. The government weapons are killing people without arrest, trial or conviction.
Box was a government gun, a Marine if I'm not mistaken, maybe he is afraid to admit maybe the shooter got inspiration from the actions of his brothers and leaders.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Murder Law. the killing of another human being under conditions specifically covered in law. In the U.S., special statutory definitions include murder committed with malice aforethought, characterized by deliberation or premeditation or occurring during the commission of another serious crime, as robbery or arson (first-degree murder) and murder by intent but without deliberation or premeditation (second-degree murder)
You define all killing as murder. I (and most Americans don't) I support drone attacks on valid terrorist targets when there is no other way to carry out the attack. IMO, and that of most Americans, killing in war is not murder. You seem to make no distinction and you are entitled to your opinion, but most of America disagrees. Some on this board consider abortion or euthanasia to be murder. I don't.
If a drone strike is aimed at a legitimate target and it malfunctions, and lands on a school, that is an accident, not murder. If a drone operator intentionally targets that school, then he's committed murder similar to the one done in CT this past weekend.
You continually attribute your views to me... ~ You blindly accept US government murder. ~You are offended when the students imitate the masters. ~Communist collaborator. (My Favorite) ~You support terror and murder ~You never displayed an ounce of compassion for the Pakistani kids murdered by your lord. ~Your mental block refuses to allow you to comprehend the idea that murder is murder.
And dozens more.
You focus your rage (and read your words, it does come across as irrational rage) on me because I'm handy and I disagree with your view that all killing is murder. When I posted that you need meds, it's because your rants bordered on the irrational, not because I was joking. I meant it. Regardless of your political views, you weren't discussing, you were ranting.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
If a drone strike is aimed at a legitimate target and it malfunctions, and lands on a school, that is an accident, not murder.
Yeah tell that to the innocent victims families and see what response you get, also drone strikes don't have to have malfunctions to cause innocent deaths, they are dropping bombs not a single precise bullet.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Box was a government gun, a Marine if I'm not mistaken, maybe he is afraid to admit maybe the shooter got inspiration from the actions of his brothers and leaders.
EXACTLY!! American soldIers have killed MORE innocent people,(with GOV ALMIGHTY'S BLESSINGS), world wide, than any guns in america!!! Everyone is entitled to their opinions....but ya just can't rewrite history and try to 'convince' folks that government issued american guns aren't a global tragedy!!!
THIS IS A LITTLE EXCESSIVE WOULDN'T YA SAY?????
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Within the first two to four months of the bombings, the acute effects killed 90,000–166,000 people in Hiroshima and 60,000–80,000 in Nagasaki, with roughly half of the deaths in each city occurring on the first day. The Hiroshima prefecture health department estimated that, of the people who died on the day of the explosion, 60% died from flash or flame burns, 30% from falling debris and 10% from other causes. During the following months, large numbers died from the effect of burns, radiation sickness, and other injuries, compounded by illness. In a US estimate of the total immediate and short term cause of death, 15–20% died from radiation sickness, 20–30% from burns, and 50–60% from other injuries, compounded by illness. In both cities, most of thedead were civilians, although Hiroshima had a sizeable garrison.
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Murder Law. the killing of another human being under conditions specifically covered in law. In the U.S., special statutory definitions include murder committed with malice aforethought, characterized by deliberation or premeditation or occurring during the commission of another serious crime, as robbery or arson (first-degree murder) and murder by intent but without deliberation or premeditation (second-degree murder)
You define all killing as murder. I (and most Americans don't) I support drone attacks on valid terrorist targets when there is no other way to carry out the attack. IMO, and that of most Americans, killing in war is not murder. You seem to make no distinction and you are entitled to your opinion, but most of America disagrees. Some on this board consider abortion or euthanasia to be murder. I don't.
If a drone strike is aimed at a legitimate target and it malfunctions, and lands on a school, that is an accident, not murder. If a drone operator intentionally targets that school, then he's committed murder similar to the one done in CT this past weekend.
You continually attribute your views to me... ~ You blindly accept US government murder. ~You are offended when the students imitate the masters. ~Communist collaborator. (My Favorite) ~You support terror and murder ~You never displayed an ounce of compassion for the Pakistani kids murdered by your lord. ~Your mental block refuses to allow you to comprehend the idea that murder is murder.
And dozens more.
You focus your rage (and read your words, it does come across as irrational rage) on me because I'm handy and I disagree with your view that all killing is murder. When I posted that you need meds, it's because your rants bordered on the irrational, not because I was joking. I meant it. Regardless of your political views, you weren't discussing, you were ranting.
Bull.
Knowingly continuing to perform the same actions that are known to kill the innocent is no accident.
Executions without arrest trial or conviction is also murder.
This is the root of our differences.
You believe that governments don't need no stinkin due process to kill.
Well neither did McVeigh or Adam Lanza.
You keep feeding the belief that killing with a good reason, but without due process is ok.
You are planting the seeds of murder and terror.
You are defying the word of God.
God doesn't say thou shall not kill, except by government permission.
Obama is anti-christian.
As in him being one of many antichrist killers.
Better known as Satanists.
Good killing was brought into the world by Satan.
It is not the work of God.
It is not done by Christians.
Justifying killing without due process is supporting terrorism, not combating it.
EXACTLY!! American soldIers have killed MORE innocent people,(with GOV ALMIGHTY'S BLESSINGS), world wide, than any guns in america!!! Everyone is entitled to their opinions....but ya just can't rewrite history and try to 'convince' folks that government issued american guns aren't a global tragedy!!!
THIS IS A LITTLE EXCESSIVE WOULDN'T YA SAY?????
You can't expect people in America to have any respect for human life when our government has never shown any.
All it takes in one sentence from Obama to change the course of American history.
Let's give peace a chance.
Of course that's outrageous anti government whacko crap to people like the box.
We gave guns and weapons of mass destruction a chance.
That plan has failed miserably.
All we have done is grow more enemies.
People don't terrorize or attack people who want to be peaceful.
They attack the threat of themselves becoming the next victims of US aggression.
EXACTLY!! American soldIers have killed MORE innocent people,(with GOV ALMIGHTY'S BLESSINGS), world wide, than any guns in america!!! Everyone is entitled to their opinions....but ya just can't rewrite history and try to 'convince' folks that government issued american guns aren't a global tragedy!!!
Just remember what boxes end game is, more power for the government, less for us, that is the way him and others think, don't ask how they got that way but it is what it is. Best thing to do is to call them out and expose them for what they are, they are the enemies of our freedom and what we were founded on, they spit on everything that made us great and blame our own freedoms for the evil in this world.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Yeah tell that to the innocent victims families and see what response you get, also drone strikes don't have to have malfunctions to cause innocent deaths, they are dropping bombs not a single precise bullet.
Our drones carry Up to 14 AGM-114 Hellfire air to ground missiles can be carried or four Hellfire missiles and two 500 lb (230 kg) GBU-12 Paveway II laser-guided bombs. The 500 lb (230 kg) GBU-38 Joint Direct Attack Munition (JDAM) can also be carried. Testing is underway to support the operation of the AIM-92 Stinger air-to-air missile. All are laser guided weapons (smart weapons).
You are mistaken to think we are dropping dumb bombs. These are precision guided weapons that seldom miss their target.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
I would bet he was more of a clipboard jockey and bootlicker.
I'll take that bet L4Life. You seem to be batting 0 today with facts or bets. 1st Bn 7th Marines, 13 months as a grunt... but that doesn't fit your agenda does it L4Life.
(Your posts are full of assumptions about me as your above bet shows, and all of them wrong.)
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
You are mistaken to think we are dropping dumb bombs. These are precision guided weapons that seldom miss their target.
I know what they carry, point being even though they're smart they are BOMBS, these things take out almost a city block when detonated, innocents will die. Oh but let me guess those innocents were just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
I'll take that bet L4Life. You seem to be batting 0 today with facts or bets. 1st Bn 7th Marines, 13 months as a grunt... but that doesn't fit your agenda does it L4Life.
(Your posts are full of assumptions about me as your above bet shows, and all of them wrong.)
So you admit being paid to kill for the government on command.
No declaration of war needed or due process either.
I guess that you can never change into a compassionate peace loving person, that speaks out against the deaths of the innocent without due process.
Knowing this and continuing the practice is murder.
GOV ALMIGHTY calls 'killing the innocent'....collateral damage! Those hundreds of thousands of innocent japanese that were murdered was nothing more than collateral damage. Those hundreds of thousands of innocent being murdered world wide yet today....is nothing more than collateral damage. Looks like 911 victims were nothing more than collateral damage too. And it is all done with government 'legal issue'!!
The government murders the innocent daily......and yet they think that they are going to put gun regulations on honest, patriotic american's who never killed anyone!!! At least the millions of honest, freedom loving gun owners KNOW it is for DEFENSE.....unlike the government who uses them for OFFENSE!!!!
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When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
I know what they carry, point being even though they're smart they are BOMBS, these things take out almost a city block when detonated, innocents will die. Oh but let me guess those innocents were just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
The lack of knowledge on this board is amazing! Our drones can carry various weapons... like the 500 pound bombs used in the video when supporting troops. They can carry TWO OF THOSE OR 14 AGM-114 Hellfire... which are very precision arms a much smaller much more precise weapon. Really guys... try to get the facts or you'll continue to embarrass yourselves.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
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