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Box A Rox
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Do soldiers feel guilt when they kill foreigner in the name of the flag?  Or when they drop bombs on innocent civilians?


Do you feel as stupid as your posts???
Inquiring minds want to know!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Do soldiers feel guilt when they kill foreigner in the name of the flag?  Or when they drop bombs on innocent civilians?


I can't answer for others and am not interested in playing
your game of trap


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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You are a criminal by your actions.
Guilty is a state of feeling and/or discovery.
Criminals do not believe they are guilty of anything.


so when is a person NOT a criminal...?

you can please some of the people some of the time but you can't please all of the people all of the time.....

how about 'perp'?


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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1crim·i·nal adjective \ˈkri-mə-nəl, ˈkrim-nəl\

Definition of CRIMINAL

1
: relating to, involving, or being a crime
2
: relating to crime or to the prosecution of suspects in a crime
3
: guilty of crime; also : of or befitting a criminal
4
: disgraceful
— crim·i·nal·ly adverb
See criminal defined for English-language learners »
See criminal defined for kids »
Examples of CRIMINAL

a history of criminal behavior
The captain of the wrecked boat was accused of criminal negligence.
The company brought criminal charges against her.
It's criminal that the government is doing nothing to stop the problem.
Origin of CRIMINAL

Middle English, from Anglo-French or Late Latin; Anglo-French criminal, from Late Latin criminalis, from Latin crimin-, crimen crime
First Known Use: 15th century
Related to CRIMINAL

Synonyms
illegal, felonious, illegitimate, illicit, lawless, unlawful, wrongful
Antonyms
lawful, legal, legitimate
Related Words
bad, evil, immoral, shameful, sinful, unethical, wicked, wrong; blamable, blameworthy, censurable, reprehensible; banned, barred, contraband, criminalized, disallowed, discouraged, forbidden, interdicted, outlawed, prohibited, proscribed; adulterine, bootleg, unauthorized, unlicensed, unsanctioned; under-the-counter, under-the-table; corrupt, unprincipled, unscrupulous, villainous
Near Antonyms
ethical, good, just, principled, right, righteous, virtuous; allowed, permitted; authorized, licensed; approved, endorsed (also indorsed), sanctioned; abetted, encouraged, promoted, suggested, supported; correct, decent, decorous, proper, seemly
more
Other Legal Terms

actionable, alienable, carceral, chattel, complicity, decedent, larceny, malfeasance, modus operandi
Rhymes with CRIMINAL

liminal, Viminal
2criminal noun
Definition of CRIMINAL

1
: one who has committed a crime
2
: a person who has been convicted of a crime
See criminal defined for English-language learners »
Examples of CRIMINAL


First Known Use of CRIMINAL

circa 1626
Related to CRIMINAL

Synonyms
crook, culprit, felon, lawbreaker, malefactor, miscreant, offender
Related Words
misdemeanant; accomplice, principal; desperado, outlaw; convict, jailbird; perp, perpetrator; evildoer, gallows bird, misdoer, misfeasor, sinner, transgressor, trespasser, villain, wrongdoer; blackhander, button man, gangster, hoodlum, hooligan, mobster, racketeer, thug; enforcer, gun, gunman, gunsel [slang], hit man, triggerman; backslider, recidivist, relapser, repeater; accused, arrestee, defendant, detainee, fish, suspect
Near Antonyms
gangbuster, lawman
more
Other Legal Terms

actionable, alienable, carceral, chattel, complicity, decedent, larceny, malfeasance, modus operandi


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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so when is a person NOT a criminal...?

you can please some of the people some of the time but you can't please all of the people all of the time.....

how about 'perp'?

So I don't play trap with Cissy so
you figure you'll try a different angle......
My answer is simple....play trap w Cissy cuz
it's a stupid game you guys want to play
and I AIN'T INTERESTED!


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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So I don't play trap with Cissy so
you figure you'll try a different angle......
My answer is simple....play trap w Cissy cuz
it's a stupid game you guys want to play
and I AIN'T INTERESTED!


I'm not playing a game....I'm wondering where a person ends and the collective begins....it's philosophical for me....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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I can't answer for others and am not interested in playing
your game of trap


Hey, you choose to play the game of semantics with Senders.  You defined a criminal of incapable of feeling guilt about anything. I just figured inquiring minds might want to know if killing in war comes with or without guilt.  If it is without guilt, then by your definition they are criminals.  If it comes with guilt, then they know they are doing something morally wrong - like murdering.


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Do you feel as stupid as your posts???
Inquiring minds want to know!


Sorry for the uncomfortable question.  I thought that a couple of former combat Marines might be able to help with clarification about guilt free killing.


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Hey, you choose to play the game of semantics with Senders.  You defined a criminal of incapable of feeling guilt about anything. I just figured inquiring minds might want to know if killing in war comes with or without guilt.  If it is without guilt, then by your definition they are criminals.  If it comes with guilt, then they know they are doing something morally wrong - like murdering.


No semantics....offered my take on his comment.....you
know, offering a different view and not operating in a
narrow minded vacuum like others.

As for your question and flippant "combat" remark....again,
you just play a game........suggest you find someone dumb enough
to buy it!


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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Hey, you choose to play the game of semantics with Senders.  You defined a criminal of incapable of feeling guilt about anything. I just figured inquiring minds might want to know if killing in war comes with or without guilt.  If it is without guilt, then by your definition they are criminals.  If it comes with guilt, then they know they are doing something morally wrong - like murdering.


The number of military suicides would suggest they do feel guilt.

Plus there hasn't been an actual war since Korea.

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Sorry for the uncomfortable question.  I thought that a couple of former combat Marines might be able to help with clarification about guilt free killing.


Cissy is still dealing with "daddy issues" and takes his insecurity out on Marines who are anonymous
on this board.

As far as "GUILT"?

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guilt  

1. the fact or state of having committed an offense, crime, violation, or wrong, especially
against moral or penal law; culpability: He admitted his guilt.

2. a feeling of responsibility or remorse for some offense, crime, wrong, etc., whether real
or imagined.

3. conduct involving the commission of such crimes, wrongs, etc.: to live a life of guilt.

Nope!  No guilt!!!

I do have a few regrets from my Vietnam years though... I was on R&R and had the opportunity
to do two women, but only spent the weekend with one of them...  
I'm afraid it is a life long regret


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Cissy is still dealing with "daddy issues" and takes his insecurity out on Marines who are anonymous
on this board.

As far as "GUILT"?


Nope!  No guilt!!!

I do have a few regrets from my Vietnam years though... I was on R&R and had the opportunity
to do two women, but only spent the weekend with one of them...  
I'm afraid it is a life long regret


Having sex with the conquered people after you invade a country is a war crime.

Nothing like taking advantage of the oppressed.

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Having sex with the conquered people after you invade a country is a war crime.

Nothing like taking advantage of the oppressed.



They made a movie about such a crime called Casualties of War, box this wasn't a true story about your past is it?


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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I thought it was a Stephen King story.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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