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Does the NRA agree with Wayne LaPierre?

In Senate testimony Wednesday, the National Rifle Association’s Wayne LaPierre drew a hard line against
expanding background checks for gun purchases, a position new polls show may go against the views
of most members of his own organization.

Nearly three quarters (74%) of NRA members supported requiring a background check system
for all gun sales, according to a poll released Monday by Johns Hopkins University’s Bloomberg School
of Public Health. The survey found 89 percent of all Americans support the proposal.

A New York Times/CBS News poll this month that found an 85 percent majority of people in households
with an NRA member supporting universal background checks.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/...../?wprss=rss_politics

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Nearly three quarters (74%) of NRA members s... found 89 percent of ...

A New York Times/CBS News poll this month that found an 85 percent majority of people in households
with ....

Polls aren't facts.

They are projections. Easily manipulated for their own agendas.

Go take a Foxnews poll. There are no choices that don't support the right wing agenda.

Producing poll questions and the choices offered would be more applicable to projecting a
general percentage of those who actually do believe in the offered agenda.

Case in point. Question:

version 1. Do you favor background checks for gun purchases? yes/no/ unsure

version 2. Do you favor a database of every gun in the country, it's location, the owner,
               his address and the name and address of the person he purchased it from?
               Yes/No/ No Opinion/ Unsure/ Need more information

Version 3. Do you favor a database that contains all the data proposed in version 2 plus
               the medical and school records of every person in the country, to be used to
               deny them the right to own a gun? Yes/ No/ Are you f'ing kidding me/ unsure

Most any person will gladly agree with version 1. which is by far not the intent of what is attempting
to be enacted. While when presented with version 3. it would be tough to get a majority in favor of
a big brother database of every aspect of your life.

I would bet the database would actually be more extensive than the version 3 question. The geniuses
running it would look for trends and signals that would allow them to hold suspected future gun violence
persons for indefinite detention without due process. People would then be held based on projected
future actions making them likely to commit a crime.

That's like Box and Joe declaring everyone a potential terrorist that should be feared, for speaking
out against fascist projection based on easily manipulated polls and studies. As proof of this I offer
the polls and studies proving both for and against global warming. On top of that there are studies
proving that global warming exists, but it is natural, or caused by man made environmental damage.  
A poll or study can be produced to prove or disprove any theory or predicted event.

This is the wrong direction for a free society.

Assault rifle found in car of suspected Phoenix shooter

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Investigators in Arizona on Thursday reportedly recovered a military-style assault rifle
in a vehicle rented by a man who they suspect of killing one person and wounding two others
at an office building in Phoenix on Wednesday.
A landscaper found the body near the Mesa Riverview shopping area near Loop 202 Red Mountain
Freeway and Dobson Road.

It matched the description of Arthur Douglas Harmon, 70. The discovery occurred about 7:30 a.m.
and was near a rental car likely used by Harmon that was parked in the Bass Pro Shop parking lot.

Police said the person died from an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound and that a handgun
was found close by.

http://www.kpho.com/story/20882814/police-body-found-in-mesa-lot-is-suspected-phoenix-gunman

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Assault rifle found in car of suspected Phoenix shooter



http://www.kpho.com/story/20882814/police-body-found-in-mesa-lot-is-suspected-phoenix-gunman

So there is your proof that banning assault rifles will save lives?

You assume that after banning them all assault rifles would suddenly vanish.

They won't. You will just have a bunch of new criminals to deal with.

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So there is your proof that banning assault rifles will save lives?
You assume that after banning them all assault rifles would suddenly vanish.
They won't. You will just have a bunch of new criminals to deal with.

ReallyL4Life... why do you bother.  You make statements like this:
"You assume that after banning them all assault rifles would suddenly vanish."
as if that is something that I've posted.  

Banning assault weapons is a long term strategy, other than a "gun grab" assault weapons will be on
our streets for years to come.  
A govt buyback program would help.

There is evidence that the 1994 ASB did save lives, I would expect that this ban would also.

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There is evidence that the 1994 ASB did save lives, I would expect that this ban would also.

The evidence that you claim that was due to the assault weapons ban, coincided with a 33% increase in states allowing
shall carry weapons. The additional shall carry states were spurred on by the assault weapons ban.

According to your theory when the assault weapons ban ended crime and firearm deaths should have begun to rise.

It's been 8 years and your proof isn't coming. Let's see what happens to crime and firearm deaths with
the massive growth in concealed weapons once again spurred by the current assault weapons ban rhetoric.

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There is evidence that the 1994 ASB did save lives, I would expect that this ban would also.

How many bayonetting deaths were there box
How many lives were saved by banning a folding stock
How many lives were saved by eliminating flash hiders
How many lives were saved by eliminating pistol grips

You do know that is all the 1994 AWB did right, gun owners could still buy the guns that were made the day before the ban. New guns just had to comply and basically all they had to do was remove the flash hider for a muzzle break and grind off the useless bayonette lug and the gun was legal, it didn't stop how the gun functioned, or how the gun operated yet you believe the bayonette lug is the difference between life and death LMAO.

Pre-ban


Post-ban


Just so you know both guns will except 30rd mags like the 1st picture, just so people know the bayonette lug is that little piece of metal right below the front sight on the top picture, you will see the bottom rifle doesn't have it, box thinks removing the little stump of metal saved lives

Yea the 1994 AWB was far from perfect... especailly after being watered down and full of loopholes...
It did limit magazine size and restricted new assault weapons.  Had it been strengthened instead of
abandoned, many more lives would have likely been saved.

The new AWB will limit magazine side, and ban new sales of assault weapons, along with closing the loopholes
for background checks.  

The VAST MAJORITY of Americans support this measure, leaving only the GunHuggers opposed.

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Yea the 1994 AWB was far from perfect... especailly after being watered down and full of loopholes...
It did limit magazine size and restricted new assault weapons.  Had it been strengthened instead of
abandoned, many more lives would have likely been saved..

So can you show me a few cases where someone bayonetted another person with their gun? Oh by the way it didn't limit magazine sizes, pre-ban mags were still legal and there are millions of them on the market.

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The new AWB will limit magazine side, and ban new sales of assault weapons, along with closing the loopholes
for background checks.  

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Maybe you should look at some gun owner sites, nobody is going to obey them box even if a new AWB passes, NY is set to have one of the largest acts of civil disobedience this country has ever seen when nobody shows up to register their guns. It almost brings a tear to my eye seeing Americans finally standing up to these corrupt treasonous fckers.

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So can you show me a few cases where someone bayonetted another person with their gun? Oh by the way it didn't limit magazine sizes, pre-ban mags were still legal and there are millions of them on the market.

The bayonette thing really has you going doesn't it Henry?

There are some states that want to limit gun sales on 'rate of fire' which would also include most assault
weapons.
Some want to ban any weapon based on an automatic military weapon.  
Some states will just set up a review board to investigate all types of weapons and ban those that they
consider a problem... at one time it was the cheap, "Saturday Night Special".

The supreme court, many of our founding fathers, and most Americans recognize that the 2nd amendment
doesn't allow free access to all weapons, for all purposes.
  Are you so afraid that this ban will eventually save lives???