You are right, he didn't call them "baby killers", YOU DID. So please, reference the post that I made where I call a soldier a baby killer. You did make that claim right? So pleaaaaaase Joebxr, show me where I called YOU a "baby killer"(your words). We've established John Kerry didn't say it. Now it's up to you to show me where I said it. GOOD LUCK!
YAWN ON THIS...here is my statement, and it's documented: " I am automatically a baby killer and associated with massacres and perform as a government puppet....a characterization that is so far from the truth, but yet pervasive with a few here." And do not tell me that that phrase has not been used against me on this forum, and I also believe against Box, because you know dame well it has! Show me where this is a reference to you calling me that? There isn't, but you took ti upon yourself to try and prove the validity of the statement with a bogus disproved "anti-Kerry" Buull$hit that has been around the internet a bazillion times.
So go ahead, twist things agin to serve your CICERO WORLD existence...are you seriously that comprehension challenged that you don't really understand the written words!!!
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
Quoted from Box A Rox I don't want more unnecessary assualt weapons on our streets... whether they are held by a law abiding citizen or by criminals... they make all of us less safe.
Quoted from Box A Rox 'Putting a AR15 in my hands won't make me a wack job killer'
See the games he plays people, law abidng citizens with AR-15's make us all less safe, although in his hands its ok, I guess he is different then the rest of us.
Huh! Henry seems to be attempting to take words out of context, to distort their meaning. Why not the entire sentence Henry???
This is my entire post
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'Putting a AR15 in my hands won't make me a wack job killer', but putting it in the hands of a wack job will make his killing much more deadly. (You ignore that fact)
Henry's 'out of context' post, does fit his agenda... but doesn't fit the actual FACTS does it! (Really Henry... how childish! )
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
The entire sentence wasn't needed box, of course nutjobs shouldn't have them I agree, however you don't think law abiding citizens should own them either, your excuse was because it makes us all less safe. So how is a law abiding citizens guns making us less safe if he never commits a crime with it. Face it you want to eliminate the 2nd amendment for law abiding citizens, your arguments are not against the criminals but for the reason law abiders don't need them. My agenda has always been clear, if you wish to disarm yourself go for it, just don't tell me what guns I can have, guns I owned for years without incident.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
So go ahead, twist things agin to serve your CICERO WORLD existence...are you seriously that comprehension challenged that you don't really understand the written words!!!
Me twisting? You made two opposing statements in one post. First you claim that I DID call you a "baby killer" THEN in the very next sentence you said I didn't call you that. Which is it?
Maybe my reading comprehension is poor because I am reading an incoherent post.
You make accusations that I called you a "baby killer" with ZERO proof, and then you try to jump all over me saying John Kerry said it.
So please, find the post that called you a "baby killer"(start by searching your own delusions). Seeing how you searched the internet to disprove John Kerry ever saying it, the least you could do is search the message board to give an example of when and who posted it.
Kinda loose with the FACTS there aren't you?
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And do not tell me that that phrase has not been used against me on this forum, and I also believe against Box, because you know dame well it has! Show me where this is a reference to you calling me that? There isn't,
Me twisting? You made two opposing statements in one post. First you claim that I DID call you a "baby killer" THEN in the very next sentence you said I didn't call you that. Which is it?
Maybe my reading comprehension is poor because I am reading an incoherent post.
You make accusations that I called you a "baby killer" with ZERO proof, and then you try to jump all over me saying John Kerry said it.
So please, find the post that called you a "baby killer"(start by searching your own delusions). Seeing how you searched the internet to disprove John Kerry ever saying it, the least you could do is search the message board to give an example of when and who posted it.
Kinda loose with the FACTS there aren't you?
How about you show me where I said YOU called me that! Let's start there! Show me the words that clearly state I have accused you of it, even when I have shown you specifically that I didn't and clearly stated that. Let's begin there! My words EXACTLY "Show me where this is a reference to you calling me that? There isn't,...". Just exacltly what part of that do you not understand?
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
How about you show me where I said YOU called me that! Let's start there! Show me the words that clearly state I have accused you of it, even when I have shown you specifically that I didn't and clearly stated that. Let's begin there! My words EXACTLY "Show me where this is a reference to you calling me that? There isn't,...". Just exacltly what part of that do you not understand?
The entire sentence wasn't needed box, of course nutjobs shouldn't have them I agree, however you don't think law abiding citizens should own them either, your excuse was because it makes us all less safe. So how is a law abiding citizens guns making us less safe if he never commits a crime with it. Face it you want to eliminate the 2nd amendment for law abiding citizens, your arguments are not against the criminals but for the reason law abiders don't need them. My agenda has always been clear, if you wish to disarm yourself go for it, just don't tell me what guns I can have, guns I owned for years without incident.
Face it you want to eliminate the 2nd amendment for law abiding citizens, Like a broken record... I DO want to limit some weapons, and allow others. As the law stands today, some weapons are limited, others are allowed. Henry... when ever I suggest that a citizen should not be able to possess NUKES, you come back with your lame : Face it you want to eliminate the 2nd amendment for law abiding citizens,
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
I looked..still l don't see it...wanna be more precise and show me??? Becuase if I said it I will man up and apologize, but if I didn't I expect you to man up and apologize!!!!
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
I looked..still l don't see it...wanna be more precise and show me??? Becuase if I said it I will man up and apologize, but if I didn't I expect you to man up and apologize!!!!
Sorry, I didn't know I had to hold your hand.
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According to Cic and a few others, because I "proudly" wore a uniform, by my own choice, and was in Vietnam, I am automatically a baby killer and associated with massacres and perform as a government puppet....a characterization that is so far from the truth, but yet prevasive with a few here.
Thanks for holding my hand, and I apologize for insinuating that you have characterized me as a baby killer, that was not my intent nor do I recall you ever making such a statement about me.
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
The only one that I have a problem with is this one: 2. Prohibiting terrorist watch list members from acquiring guns. I remember the government wanting to place certain people that had a Ron Paul bumper sticker and some members of the military to be placed on a terrorist watch list. Who decides who a terrorist is, I hope it's not the government. Here's an article where the government was telling law enforcement who to watch and put on a list: http://www.columbiatribune.com.....6f-2f3b1470c8f6.html
The only one that I have a problem with is this one: 2. Prohibiting terrorist watch list members from acquiring guns. I remember the government wanting to place certain people that had a Ron Paul bumper sticker and some members of the military to be placed on a terrorist watch list. Who decides who a terrorist is, I hope it's not the government. Here's an article where the government was telling law enforcement who to watch and put on a list: http://www.columbiatribune.com.....6f-2f3b1470c8f6.html
The entire terrorist watch list admittedly had tens of thousands of wrong entries on it.
Anyone with the same name as someone else who belongs on the watch list was automatically included.
The definition of terrorist is the issue.
According to Box, anyone who disagrees with him is a terrorist and wants to commit treason.
Steve and Amber Mostyn, wealthy Texas trial attorneys, said today that they are giving $1 million to help start the gun-control advocacy group formed by former Arizona Representative Gabrielle Giffords and her husband, astronaut Mark Kelly.
OF COURSE THEY ARE...
those who control the money control the masses those who control the legislation control the masses those who control the guns control the masses those who control the food control the masses those who control the water control the masses those who control the oil control the masses
GET IT!!! THEY ARE TRIAL LAWYERS THAT INFLUENCE LEGISLATION OVER YOUR LIFE....in a lot of aspects.....
...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......
The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.
STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS
The NRA SUPPORTS Gun Control (If it's aimed at minorities)
In the 1960s, the NRA continued to support gun control, a wave which was fueled by the assassinations of President John F. Kennedy, Senator Robert F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King, and the racial strife and violent uprisings in the nation’s urban centers.
The NRA actively lobbied in favor of the Gun Control Act of 1968, which banned gun sales by mail, and enacted a system of licensing those people and companies who bought and sold firearms. Franklin Orth, then the executive vice president of the NRA, said that although certain aspects of the law “appear unduly restrictive and unjustified in their application to law-abiding citizens, the measure as a whole appears to be one that the sportsmen of America can live with.”
During that time, the NRA and conservative politicians such as California Governor Ronald Reagan supported gun control as a means of restoring social order, and getting weapons out of the hands of radical, left-leaning and revolutionary groups, particularly the Black Panther Party.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
The NRA SUPPORTS Gun Control (If it's aimed at minorities)
In the 1960s, the NRA continued to support gun control, a wave which was fueled by the assassinations of President John F. Kennedy, Senator Robert F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King, and the racial strife and violent uprisings in the nation’s urban centers.
The NRA actively lobbied in favor of the Gun Control Act of 1968, which banned gun sales by mail, and enacted a system of licensing those people and companies who bought and sold firearms. Franklin Orth, then the executive vice president of the NRA, said that although certain aspects of the law “appear unduly restrictive and unjustified in their application to law-abiding citizens, the measure as a whole appears to be one that the sportsmen of America can live with.”
During that time, the NRA and conservative politicians such as California Governor Ronald Reagan supported gun control as a means of restoring social order, and getting weapons out of the hands of radical, left-leaning and revolutionary groups, particularly the Black Panther Party.
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