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When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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No idiots were injured while violating all these gun safety rules in the process of making this photo.

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Bumbler... these people DO have guns (some AR15's) and this IS how they act!  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Bumbler... these people DO have guns (some AR15's) and this IS how they act!  


just like the posse you vote for.....SO WHAT IF THEY HURT/MAIM/KILL THEMSELVES.....it's either that or GMO food
supply/water supply that is tampered....how did we ever survive as the human race....OMG! thank goodness we
elected a bunch of handlers that will tell us what/when to eat/sh!t/have sex/go to jail/go to school/work/marry etc etc..

you have little faith/strength in yourself as a human Box....hand it over to your hebrew handlers and be satisfied with
the straw they give you for your bricks...ooops, wait, NOT your bricks but theirs because you said it's OK.....



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What, Exactly, Is Liberty?
Posted by The We Are 1776 Team on Tuesday, May 28, 2013 · Leave a Comment

By Paul Rosenberg, FreemansPerspective.com
More or less every modern politician talks about “freedom” or “liberty.” Actually, they don’t talk about it as much as they use it as a magic incantation. They go on at length about “our free country,” but if you could get them to define freedom, that definition would be something along the lines of “what we have.”
Once we’re past such self-praising nonsense, we’re still left with the original question: What exactly is this “liberty”? And then the trouble begins. There are dozens of definitions. This is a problem. We’re all going around talking about liberty, but no two of us mean precisely the same thing. If you’re looking for reasons why liberty gets so little real traction in the world, this would be a good place to start.
So, it’s about time that we clarified what we mean by these terms. And, since I’ve spent decades pursuing liberty, and since no one else seems to be addressing this, I’ll take on this chore myself.
First of all, I’m going to treat “liberty” and “freedom” as the same concept. After all, the word freedom comes to us from old English and liberty from old French, and they both mean the same thing: unconstrained.
The problem with unconstrained lies in the fact that we are constrained by the natural world, by everything from gravity to rocks to weather. Nature constrains us. Yet, we don’t feel oppressed by nature – it isn’t trying to hurt us or limit us, it simply is what it is, and we can use it as we wish too. Our bodies are part of nature, after all.
It is when other people force us to obey, use violence against us, our simply intimidate us, that we feel constrained and abused. (Which tells us all we really need to know about the nature of liberty and humanity.)
So, here is a precise definition for freedom/liberty:
A condition in which a man’s will regarding his own person and property is unopposed by any other will.
That is the bedrock. From there you can add other aspects if you wish, but you cannot deviate from this core and still be talking about “liberty.”
For example, Thomas Jefferson used the same core idea (notice the inclusion of “will”), but added a political aspect:
Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add “within the limits of the law” because law is often but the tyrant’s will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.
The great John Locke also held to this core, but took it in a more philosophical direction:
All men are naturally in a state of perfect freedom to order their actions, and dispose of their possessions and persons as they think fit, within the bounds of the law of Nature, without asking leave or depending upon the will of any other man.
Personally, I like a very plain version of the same sentiments:
We should be allowed to do whatever we want, so long as we don’t hurt others.
I generally call these statements as Lockean, since John Locke was the first person to clearly define the concept of liberty in modern times. But, that’s just my preference.
These statements are clear, and they define liberty. No more really need be said.
You can ignore manipulative “freedom to” statements like Franklin Roosevelt’s famous Second Bill of Rights, whose proposed ‘rights’ included the right of everyone to their own home. This, of course, would require the enslavement of builders, suppliers and taxpayers. (Roosevelt never mentioned that side of the equation, of course.)
There’s only one thing which I will add to this discussion, and that is this: None us have a monopoly on Lockean liberty.
Anyone who holds to Locke’s formulation is your brother and sister, and you must accept them as such.
We are past the time when we can be insular (if there ever really was such a time). You don’t have to agree 100% with the Ron Paul people or the free-market anarchists, or with anyone, but if they accept the core statements above, you must accept them as joint heirs of the Lockean liberties.
If you think someone is wrong, you can ignore the difference of opinion, or you can, respectfully, correct them. Better still, you could laugh at your joint human frailties and move forward together. What you may not do, is to cast them off as idiots; you may not resent them for honestly disagreeing. If they believe in John Locke’s liberty, they are your allies, not your enemies.
If we can’t do that, we don’t deserve to succeed.
(The Project To Restore America and Free-Man’s Perspective, sponsored by Stansberry & Associates Investment Research, gives We Are 1776 expressed permission to republish its work.)
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Paul Rosenberg knows a lot about a lot of things. An adventure capitalist with a broad range of interests and experiences under his belt, current passions include philosophy, theology, history, psychology and physics. This diverse interest base is reflected in his extensive repertoire of published titles, including “A Lodging of Wayfaring Men”,“The Words of the Founders”, and“Production Versus Plunder”, not to mention 55 engineering and construction books.
Previous to this, his highly successful engineering career saw him called as an expert witness in numerous legal cases and recruited as a consultant to a number of high profile organizations such as NASA and the US military. He developed and taught 19 continuing ed courses for Iowa State University’s College of Engineering. He also co-founded the Fiber Optic Association and wrote the first ever standard for the installation of fiber optic cables.


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This Is How the NRA Ends

A bigger, richer, meaner gun-control movement has arrived

The New Republic
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/113292/nras-end-real-gun-control-movement-has-arrived#


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Three federal judges sitting on the U.S. court of appeals for the DC circuit ruled
unanimously that they would allow the Obama administration to press ahead with implementing
the new reporting rules along the Mexican border despite the NRA and NSSF’s attempts to stop it.
Crucially, the judges rejected out of hand the NRA’s argument that the new reporting obligations
amount to a registry of gun sales. Under the scheme, officials of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco,
Firearms and Explosives (ATF) would only demand records from gun dealers in the four border
states, and within those cases only on a tightly limited basis, the court ruled.

The judgment said that the information required “does not come close to creating a ‘national
firearms registry’.”


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Box, trying to rekindle the gun grab.


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Box, trying to rekindle the gun grab.


He posts that after his other post which calls for a lobby which is meaner and more funded then the NRA to go against gun rights The hypocrite never stops amazing me.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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How Do You Know You Are Shopping In Texas?



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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John Kenneth Galbraith

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wasn't funny the 1st time you posted it, you been doing that a lot lately and you called Senders a bot


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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I support the 2nd Amendment,
and
I support good gun laws...
So does JOE!




The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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I support the 2nd Amendment,
and
I support good gun laws...
So does JOE!


I support the 4th Amendment, and I support good surveillence laws that allow the government to collect and map the communications of all Americans, like who they call, when they call, how long the call lasts, and the location from where the call was made from and received.

Every good red blooded American should have their flag out and their right hand over their heart praising their government for keeping the safe from their uncontrolable emotion of terror.

Lol - good gun laws = box telling 300 million people what they can and cannot own to protect their person and property. Box is a true patriot!


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"Sieg Heil!" (Hail victory!).

It was adopted in 1930 2012  by the New Nazi Party to signal obedience to the party's
leader – Adolf Hitler Barack Obama – and to glorify the German nation United States.




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Lol - good gun laws = box telling 300 million people what they can and cannot own to protect their person and property. Box is a true patriot!


Yea Mrs Lanza bought a gun to "protect her person and property...
She and 26 others paid the price with their lives.  What did she protect???


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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