Actually I do know the bill of rights pretty much word for word, its not like the 2nd amendment is a page long That move by him quickly erased any credibility he tried to act as if he had.
the founders just came out of a government of tyranny and wrote the bill of rights to prevent OUR COUNTRY from ever letting that happen again!!! our founders were believers of PERSOANL FREEDOMS AND LIBERTIES WITH LITTLE GOVERNMENT CONTROL!!!!
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the founders just came out of a government of tyranny and wrote the bill of rights to prevent OUR COUNTRY from ever letting that happen again!!! our founders were believers of PERSOANL FREEDOMS AND LIBERTIES WITH LITTLE GOVERNMENT CONTROL!!!!
Exactly plus some like to ignore the Declaration of Independence where it says alter or abolish the government and institute a new government if the old one fails to respect the natural rights of the people.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
the founders just came out of a government of tyranny and wrote the bill of rights to prevent OUR COUNTRY from ever letting that happen again!!! our founders were believers of PERSOANL FREEDOMS AND LIBERTIES WITH LITTLE GOVERNMENT CONTROL!!!!
That IS the Right Wing Talking point... but the facts don't agree. The 2nd amendment had nothing to do with 'overthrowing your own govt'. Wouldn't the 2nd amendment have protected the south from their cessation from the union?
Didn't the 2nd amendment apply to the confederate states when they wanted to overthrow their own govt???
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
That IS the Right Wing Talking point... but the facts don't agree. The 2nd amendment had nothing to do with 'overthrowing your own govt'. Wouldn't the 2nd amendment have protected the south from their cessation from the union?
Didn't the 2nd amendment apply to the confederate states when they wanted to overthrow their own govt???
The south wanted to secede but Lincoln would not have it, he didn't care about slavery he feared a broken union. So yes the south should of had the right to secede peacefully and not one round needed to be fired. Slavery was just an excuse used to hide the abuses of the government.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
His point... Those who wrote the 2nd amendment WERE the govt of their time. They didn't write an amendment to overthrow themselves.
I agree. The second amendment was written so citizens can defend themselves from a tyrannical government. Of course they didn't think of themselves as tyrannical, but they surely understood that future governments may be occupied by tyrants.
The 2nd Amendment of the Bill of Rights didn't enumerate the guaranteed rights of the federal government to regulate guns for which the people could not infringe, and then the other 9 Amendments guaranteed the rights of the people which the government could not infringe.
The gun grabbers want to take the Bill of Rights and pluck out the 2nd Amendment and redefine it as the federal governments right to regulate.
I've read the 2nd amendment lots of times but I don't have it tattooed on the inside of my eyelids. But I assume that you do.
His point... Those who wrote the 2nd amendment WERE the govt of their time. They didn't write an amendment to overthrow themselves.
and they had the experience to know when another 'england' would want to arise from the ashes of neglected freedom
hence....IT'S NOT OUTDATED....human nature hasn't changed.....changing freedoms does not count as evolution...
they KNEW their mortality and KNEW it wasn't to overthrow themselves.....
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After the events related in The Time Machine, the Time Traveller (his first name, Moses, is given in the novel but applied to the Time Traveller's younger self) prepares, in 1891, to return to the year 802,701 and save Weena, the Eloi who died in the fire with the Morlocks. He reveals that the quartz construction of the time machine is suffused with a radioactive substance he calls Plattnerite for the mysterious benefactor who gave him the sample to study twenty years earlier, in 1871. The Time Traveller departs into the future and stops in AD 657,208 when he notes the daytime sky has gone permanently dark. He arrives and is abducted by a branch of Morlocks more culturally advanced than the ones he met before. One of their number, Nebogipfel (the name of a character from Wells' The Chronic Argonauts), explains after hearing the Time Traveller's own story that the conflict between Eloi and Morlocks never occurred due to the Writer's publication of the story that became The Time Machine. The timeline he sought to go to is inaccessible to him now. The Morlocks of this timeline have constructed a Dyson sphere around the inner solar system and use the Sun's energy to power it. Humans as the Time Traveller knows them live on the sunlit inner surface of the Sphere while the Morlocks live on the outer shell. The Time Traveller convinces Nebogipfel that he will help him understand the time traveling mechanism of the Time machine if the Morlock takes him back to it. When he thinks he is unobserved, the Time Traveller reactivates his machine and travels to 1873 to persuade his younger self to stop his research on Plattnerite. Nebogipfel, who took hold of the Time Traveller once he realized what he was doing, follows him there. As the Time Traveller attempts to persuade his younger self, whom he asks to call "Moses" to avoid confusion, to stop his research by providing Nebogipfel as proof that reality is changed by time travel, a tank-like Juggernaut pulls into Moses' yard. The army personnel on board, commanded by Hilary Bond and accompanied by an older version of the Time Traveller's friend Filby, take Moses, Nebogipfel, and the Time Traveller to their 1938, where World War I has stretched over twenty-four years due to the discovery of time travel which was influenced by the latter's work. Britain's major cities are all encased in Domes, and with the contributions of Austrian expatriate Kurt Gödel, the government hopes to win the war by altering Germany's history conclusively. Nebogipfel explains to the Time Traveller that they've entered another future as a result of their actions in Moses' past. During another bombing raid on London by the Germans, Gödel provides a vial of Plattnerite and leads to the only escape available, a Time-Car prototype. Upon hearing this and what society would be like after the war (a pessimistic view mirroring Wells' own), the Time Traveller and Nebogipfel mount the vehicle and insert the Plattnerite. Moses is killed in an explosion when he tries to save Gödel, and the Time-Car travels back to the Paleocene and is wrecked on a tree. After weeks of bare survival, the Time Traveller and Nebogipfel are discovered by a scouting party from the Chronic Expeditionary Force commanded by Hilary Bond that arrived from 1944 to find them based on their remains in her time. Some time later, a German Messerschmitt plane arrives over the campsite, drops a Carolinum bomb (analogous to an atomic bomb in our world; see Wells's The World Set Free), and devastates the time-traveling Juggernauts and all but twelve of the Force. Nebogipfel and the Time Traveller are away from the campsite at the time. Over the next year and a half, the stranded soldiers under Hilary Bond's command start the colony of First London. In off moments, Nebogipfel has worked on repairing the Time-Car and acquired shavings of Plattnerite to power it on a journey through time. When the Time-Car is ready, the Time Traveller joins Nebogipfel in a fifty-million year journey through which they see First London expand and develop colonies on the moon and in Earth orbit. Eventually, human tampering with the Earth's environment renders the planet uninhabitable, and they depart for the stars. When the Time-Car finally stops due to loss of its Plattnerite fuel, Nebogipfel and the Time Traveller are tended by a Universal Constructor, a life form (or lifeforms) composed of thousands of nanotechnological entities. They see that there are few stars left in the night sky; this is due to the human descendants colonizing many worlds and constructing Dyson Spheres around the host star. The goal of the Universal Constructor is to harvest the energy of the sun to build time-travel vehicles from Plattnerite and travel to the beginning of the universe. However, this goal is not due to be completed for a million years. Nebogipfel and the Time Traveller acquire enough Plattnerite from the Constructors in order to journey to the point in the future (i.e., another million years hence) when the Constructors will have finished building their time ships. Once the Time Traveller and Nebogipfel reach this point, the Constructors integrate them into a time ship and thus begins the journey back to time's beginning. At this central point from where all matter and energy and timelines branch off, the Constructors apparently start a new history in which they become something even more grand and knowledgeable than before. These successors of the Constructors place the Time Traveller and Nebogipfel into the Time Traveller's original history in the year 1871. It is revealed that the Time Traveller himself is the mysterious stranger who gave his younger self the Plattnerite sample under the alias "Gottfried Plattner", and that because of this, the circle of causality is closed and thus, the whole multiplicity of histories which ends up creating the Constructors and their successors begins anew. Nebogipfel, with his consciousness enhanced by his time with the Constructors, leaves the Time Traveller behind to travel with the successors of the Constructors. These successors plan to travel "beyond" the "local" multiplicity into a new realm of historical dimensions. The Time Traveller then makes one final journey to AD 802,701, along his historical axis, and just barely saves Weena from the death she suffered before. Since (the reader is led to suppose) traveling in time again would cause this reality to branch off and become inaccessible again, the Time Traveller destroys the machine and encourages the Eloi in an Agrarian Revolution to reduce their dependence on the Morlocks for food and clothing, hoping to one day eliminate it entirely. As he works, the Time Traveller writes down the recounting of his adventures and seals them in a Plattnerite packet, a "time capsule", so to speak, in the hope that it will travel in time to a faithful scribe. Before sealing the packet, the Time Traveller writes that he plans to go into the world of the Morlocks again, hopefully to return and add an appendix to the story. The book ends by saying that no appendix was found.
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Didn't the 2nd amendment apply to the confederate states when they wanted to overthrow their own govt???
They didn't want to overthrow the federal government. They wanted to secede from the federal government - peacefully. The federal government attacked the southern states that wanted to peacefully secede. The confederacy had no interest of taking over the federal government; they wanted their independence from the federal government.
They didn't want to overthrow the federal government. They wanted to secede from the federal government - peacefully. The federal government attacked the southern states that wanted to peacefully secede. The confederacy had no interest of taking over the federal government; they wanted their independence from the federal government.
Cicero really HATES any kind of education, and so has totally neglected his own...
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On April 12, 1861, General P.G.T. Beauregard, in command of the Confederate forces around Charleston Harbor, opened fire on the Union garrison holding Fort Sumter. At 2:30pm on April 13 Major Robert Anderson, garrison commander, surrendered the fort and was evacuated the next day.
Cissy... if your gonna post history... at least open a book first. Your version of history is very entertaining but totally devoid of facts.
Don't ya love it when Cic makes up his own facts General Beauregard, in command of the Confederate forces around Charleston Harbor, opened fire on the Union garrison holding Fort Sumter BUT HE OPENED FIRE "PEACEFULLY"!!!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Box's incomplete revisionist history. You failed to mention that on April 10th, two days prior, the confederates gave the union an opportunity to surrender. The Union refused, and with knowledge that the Fort was in the process of being resupplied, only then did they fire. The Union surrendered the fort without suffering an enemy caused casualty.
The confederates were not overthrowing the federal government, they were kicking them out.
Box's incomplete revisionist history. You failed to mention that on April 10th, two days prior, the confederates gave the union an opportunity to surrender. The Union refused, and with knowledge that the Fort was in the process of being resupplied, only then did they fire. The Union surrendered the fort without suffering an enemy caused casualty.
C'mon box, don't rewrite history.
Cicero's version of PEACEFULL SURRENDER: "If you give me all your money I won't kill you!"
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
I'm asking you to get off my property, if you don't get off my property, I'll kick you off.
The Confederates didn't want the Unions money. It was the other way around.
Oh... So all I need to do is to say: "ALL THE MONEY IN YOUR WALLET IS MINE. IT'S MY PROPERTY." Then: Cicero's version of PEACEFUL SURRENDER: "If you give me all your money I won't kill you!"
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Oh... So all I need to do is to say: "ALL THE MONEY IN YOUR WALLET IS MINE. IT'S MY PROPERTY." Then: Cicero's version of PEACEFUL SURRENDER: "If you give me all your money I won't kill you!"
You have it backward again.
All the money in my pocket is MINE.
South Carolinians didn't want Union money, they didn't want the Union taking their money through federal tariffs.
Back to your first false assertion, the confederates had no desire to overthrow the federal government. They wanted to get out from under it.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
That move by him quickly erased any credibility he tried to act as if he had.
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