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Box A Rox
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President Obama is certain to do something that no president has done since Eisenhower. He is
about to become the sixth president in history to be elected twice with 51% or more of the popular
vote.


According to the Los Angeles Times, “Obama’s margin has grown steadily. From just over 2 percentage
points, it now stands at nearly 4. White House aides now brag that Obama seems all but certain to
achieve a mark hit by only five others in U.S. history – winning the presidency twice with 51% or more
of the popular vote.”

Barack Obama will join a group of presidents that includes Andrew Jackson, Ulysses S. Grant, William
McKinley, FDR, and Dwight Eisenhower. To say that Obama is the most popular Democratic president,
at least in terms of Election Day results, since FDR is no longer an understatement

LA Times
http://www.latimes.com/news/po.....1214,0,3119021.story


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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another troll thread!!!


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In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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another troll thread!!!


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I thought enough time had passed that the Righties on this board would have recovered from their disastrous
election.  Apparently they, like a few other Americans, will never accept Barack Hussein Obama's
outstanding success.

US Presidents who have NOT managed to get 51% of the popular vote in both of their 2 terms:
George Washington
Thomas Jefferson
James Madison
James Monroe
Abraham Lincoln
Grover Cleveland
Woodrow Wilson
Richard Nixon
Ronald Reagan
Bill Clinton
George W. Bush


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Barack Obama First President Re-Elected With Less Popular, Electoral Support Second Time AroundEd Krayewski|Nov. 19, 2012 11:26 am

With just over 63 million votes this cycle and just under 70 million in 2008, President Obama became the first president to be re-elected to the office with less votes than he was first elected with since every state moved to deciding electors by popular vote. Prior to that, only George Washington got less votes in his re-election; he faced no opposition and only a few thousand people in a few states actually voted. Franklin Roosevelt, the only president to be re-elected three times, received less popular and electoral votes in his second and third re-elections.

President Obama is also projected to receive 33 fewer electoral votes. His 332 expected this year, along with his 2008 take, is still the highest count this century. Bill Clinton received 370 in 1992 and 372 in 1996. Those totals, on the other hand, were the lowest since Jimmy Carter in 1976. No president has won re-election with less electoral votes except Woodrow Wilson, who promised to “keep us out of the war” but still got 158 fewer electoral votes in 1916, when the field wasn’t split three ways. As for Obama getting us out of the wars; not true on Iraq and increasingly clearly not true on Afghanistan.

Obama becomes the 17th president, out of 43, to be elected to a second term. With most states reporting 100 percent of their votes, about 125 million people voted, six million fewer than 2008. The Census Bureau estimates the 2010 population of voting age at 237 million. At 26.5 percent of that total, President Obama sees a mandate from the middle class. Republicans, meanwhile, whose standard bearer got 25 percent of the voting age population and who kept control of the House, see a mandate of their own.


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US Presidents who have NOT managed to get 51% of the popular vote in both of their 2 terms:
George Washington
Thomas Jefferson
James Madison
James Monroe
Abraham Lincoln
Grover Cleveland
Woodrow Wilson
Richard Nixon
Ronald Reagan
Bill Clinton
George W. Bush

These numbers show that Obama has more popular support among the American people than did
George Washington Thomas Jefferson James Madison and even Ronald Reagan!


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President Obama became the first president to be re-elected to the office with less votes than he was first elected with since every state moved to deciding electors by popular vote. Prior to that, only George Washington got less votes in his re-election;


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President Obama became the first president to be re-elected to the office with less votes than he was first elected with since every state moved to deciding electors by popular vote. Prior to that, only George Washington got less votes in his re-election;


George Washington... and Barack Obama.  Yes!  They do have a lot in common!!!


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President Obama became the first president to be re-elected to the office with less votes than he was first elected with since every state moved to deciding electors by popular vote. Prior to that, only George Washington got less votes in his re-election;


It is difficult to compare the popular support for Washington and Obama -- since the eligibility to vote and the rules for selecting the members of the Electoral College were very different in Washington's time.  


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why should I care....I don't even care about American Idol.....


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It is difficult to compare the popular support for Washington and Obama -- since the eligibility to vote and the rules for selecting the members of the Electoral College were very different in Washington's time.  


Even when compared to modern presidential history, it is unprecedented that a president wins a second term with less popular and electoral support and claim a mandate.  Obama lost 3% of his support in 4 years.  That isn't the response of an electorate supporting his agenda.  Growing support after the first 4 years would be a sign that the people support of his agenda and give him a mandate to continue it.  It was the opposite.


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Even when compared to modern presidential history, it is unprecedented that a president wins a second term with less popular and electoral support and claim a mandate.  Obama lost 3% of his support in 4 years.  That isn't the response of an electorate supporting his agenda.  Growing support after the first 4 years would be a sign that the people support of his agenda and give him a mandate to continue it.  It was the opposite.


His only serious opponent lost seats in the house, the senate and lost the White House.  In terrible
economic times, Obama set a record in this election that has been rarely matched in US history.
A mandate that few US Presidents have accomplished.  


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The balance of power in the house and senate didn't change.  Not to mention congress is a seperate branch of government.  Remember your posts of low congressional approval ratings?  Obama did nothing to change the balance.  So not only didhe lose popular and electoral support as President, he did nothing to help congressional Democrats gain power.  GRIDLOCK.  Not a mandate.


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The balance of power in the house and senate didn't change.  Not to mention congress is a seperate branch of government.  Remember your posts of low congressional approval ratings?  Obama did nothing to change the balance.  So not only didhe lose popular and electoral support as President, he did nothing to help congressional Democrats gain power.  GRIDLOCK.  Not a mandate.


Gridlock wouldn't get a TAX INCREASE ON THE RICH.
But a Mandate WILL!


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