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Libertarian4life
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WOW...hell of an illegal turn onto a one way street!!!!


You have a problem with people who no longer wish to live?

You would use force to stop them?


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Gene Rosen Facebook page on a Mission to take down videos questioning Sandy Hook





When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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Modern day book burning


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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From the same wing nuts who still to this day say that Obama Isn't an American citizen.  
A pathetic bunch... they have no FACTS, so they just make em up!

FACTS seem to bounce off them like Teflon, while Conspiracy theory sticks like Velcro!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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From the same wing nuts who still to this day say that Obama Isn't an American citizen.  
A pathetic bunch... they have no FACTS, so they just make em up!

FACTS seem to bounce off them like Teflon, while Conspiracy theory sticks like Velcro!




Pathetic strawman falsehood king strikes again.

You argue like a child.

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Pathetic strawman falsehood king strikes again.
You argue like a child.


Little kids are fooled by BigFoot Conspiracy... Most adults are not.

Childish adults are fooled by every Conspiracy that comes along... from "Birthers", to the WTC conspiracy
to Hillary's fake injuries.  
I assumed we are discussing issues in a room full of adults but the behavior is often a room full of
selfish children.  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Little kids are fooled by BigFoot Conspiracy... Most adults are not.

Childish adults are fooled by every Conspiracy that comes along... from "Birthers", to the WTC conspiracy
to Hillary's fake injuries.  
I assumed we are discussing issues in a room full of adults but the behavior is often a room full of
selfish children.  


Wow, layering strawman arguments on top of each other.

Impressive lack of debate skills.


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Little kids are fooled by BigFoot Conspiracy... but the behavior is often a room full of
selfish children.  


Sweet, I call your skill childish and you use the rubber vs glue defense calling everyone else childish.

I apologize to all children for clumping your skills in with theirs.

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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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You have a problem with people who no longer wish to live?

You would use force to stop them?




No the problem is with a discussion about a school shooting that had a reference to someone killing themselves for owning a gun
and then you choose to twist THE topic to the right to commit suicide....you made a sharp turn...FOR WHAT...
because YOU wanted to bring that to the forefront and push the topic of the thread into the background....never done that before, have you!!!!


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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I support Assisted-Suicide Groups for those who are at end of life with terminal conditions and no prospects
of recovering or with quality of life issues.  
Many people with 'advanced directives' have already chosen a suicide in the case that they can no longer
make that decision for themselves.

I do have a problem with many suicides that are due to depression, mental illness or other conditions
that leave the subject in an irrational state.  

It's a classic case of the teen age boy who gets dumped by his first love and shoots himself or overdoses...
Studies show that had the teen not killed himself then... he may never have attempted suicide again.  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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[quote=142]

No the problem is with a discussion about a school shooting that had a reference to someone killing themselves for owning a gun
and then you choose to twist THE topic to the right to commit suicide....you made a sharp turn...FOR WHAT...


Box changed the topic to suicide, liar.

I questioned it. You have sever comprehension disability like Mr Rock.
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[quote=142]
No the problem is with a discussion about a school shooting that had a reference to someone killing themselves for owning a gun
and then you choose to twist THE topic to the right to commit suicide....you made a sharp turn...FOR WHAT...
Box changed the topic to suicide, liar.

I questioned it. You have sever comprehension disability like Mr Rock.

LIAR !!!
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Go ahead, disprove any of the figures.
I posted identical firearm deaths from 2 out of thousands of sources.
Box now begins his diversionary dance, since he can't produce a fact.
Better yet, name one figure on the chart that you feel is incorrect.
More concealed weapons = lower crime and fewer firearm related deaths.
I told you several times the safest place for your weapon is in your personal protect, so no
nutjob can take it and commit crimes with it.

No one is going to be able to commit suicide with a gun that is always protected
by the owner
.

Box's comment was hyperbole...ask your Butt Buddy to explain:
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No one except the owner.


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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LIAR !!!

Box's comment was hyperbole...ask your Butt Buddy to explain:


No, you are once again incorrect.

I was explaining the safety aspects of the gun being in the person's own possession instead of being
left alone at home, which in many previous discussions box said it is dangerous for the gun to be in
the house. He has said many times people use guns at home to commit suicide. I said that keeping
the gun with the person would prevent that. He challenged, not with hyperbole, saying accept for himself.
Thereby opening the new topic for further clarification

I'm beginning to think you 2 guys deliberately act like you have absolutely no intelligence so that you
can be humiliated over and over, because you 2 must be the 2 biggest masochists I have ever
encountered. You guys seem to get off on humiliating yourselves publicly.

You guys really try to tell everyone you are geniuses, but neither knows anything about proper use  
of postulates,  theorums and logical conclusions, but rely on false premises, fallacies, ad hominem,
red herring and strawman arguments randomly thrown in anywhere.

You rely strongly on argument by ridicule.

Plus you completely fall apart when you lose your temper.

Box never seems to get mad, like he has absolutely no ability to feel shame or anger.



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I do have a problem with many suicides that are due to depression, mental illness or other conditions
that leave the subject in an irrational state.  

It's a classic case of the teen age boy who gets dumped by his first love and shoots himself or overdoses...
Studies show that had the teen not killed himself then... he may never have attempted suicide again.  


And is a teenage boy going to get a hold of a gun left alone at home or a gun in someone's personal possession.

That's exactly the point.

Guns should never be left alone or unprotected by stealth, or strength of force.

40 years ago my friend broke open his dads strongbox and we took his pistol out for the day.

A strongbox in crap.

Weapons need to be in an unmovable safe or hidden by stealth, secret compartment or other.

I disagree on the point of a person wishing to end his own suffering.





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