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No Cic... Your support of top level Al Qaeda TERRORISTS like Al Awalki MAKES YOU A TERRORIST
SYMPATHIZER!


Hahaha!  

Why have judicial systems anywhere in the world if Obama and America can charge, try, and convict from the Oval Office?  

The neo liberal supporting George W Bush's extrajudicial assassination policy.  The neo liberals position on civil liberties - stay off the secret kill list that you will never know you are on.

PROGRESS!  FREEDOM!  JUSTICE!


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Obama is doing the exact same thing this Hungarian group is doing, just to people with different religious beliefs.  Based on the Reuters article, I believe that would make Obama a far-right wing president that is committing a Holocaust against the Muslims by indiscriminately bombing them or locking them in Guantanamo without due process of law.  


American muslims are thinking 'just that'..............americans are committing a holocaust against them!
Like i said...........the american revolution will be started by the most 'unlikely'.

All ya gotta do is talk to them....lot more going on and being planned behind the scenes than one may think ............REALLY!!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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Cic... Bubby!  Obama is targeting AL QAEDA... If those Al Qaeda turned out to be Jews or Muslims, the target
would be the same. It's aimed at Al Qaeda TERRORISTS... Muslim, Jew, Christian... the religion doesn't matter.


I can't recall a Christian or Jew Al Qaeda member being executed yet.  The CIA must not have found the secret Jew Al Qaeda hideout.  

Are Al Qaeda members sworn in like when becoming a member of the Elks Lodge?  Do they carry an ID card that says how long they've been members of Al Qaeda and when their membership renewal date is?  


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I posted the article for the IRONY jackasses.  The communist opinion makers see America for what it is - TOTALITARIAN.  Whether it is Fascism or Communism, they surely know America isn't Democratic, Free or Capitalist.    


Is Russia now wanting to save us from Communism?



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Are Al Qaeda members sworn in like when becoming a member of the Elks Lodge?  Do they carry an ID card that says how long they've been members of Al Qaeda and when their membership renewal date is?  


I could only find one.





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I can't recall a Christian or Jew Al Qaeda member being executed yet.  The CIA must not have found the secret Jew Al Qaeda hideout.  

Are Al Qaeda members sworn in like when becoming a member of the Elks Lodge?  Do they carry an ID card that says how long they've been members of Al Qaeda and when their membership renewal date is?  


Again, Cic, you posted as if it were a war on Muslims... the war is on terrorism.  At the moment they happen
to be Al Qaeda, and inaccessible by normal means of capture.  
In the past they've been Terrorists that were also Christian, but just as deadly no matter what their religion.

The last Terrorist who was a Christian that I remember being executed by the US Govt was
Timothy McVeigh.  Had his religion been Muslim (as many in the US thought until his capture) or Jew, or
atheist... it matters not, to the fact that he was a terrorist.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Cic... Bubby!  Obama is targeting AL QAEDA... If those Al Qaeda turned out to be Jews or Muslims, the target
would be the same. It's aimed at Al Qaeda TERRORISTS... Muslim, Jew, Christian... the religion doesn't matter.

One more time Cicero... the definition of FASCIST is usually associated with Right Wingers.  I know that
fact doesn't fit your agenda, but the actual facts seldom do fit your agenda.

~ World English Dictionary
fascism:
any ideology or movement inspired by Italian Fascism, such as German National Socialism;
any right-wing nationalist ideology or movement with an authoritarian and hierarchical
structure that is fundamentally opposed to democracy and liberalism

~ Cultural Dictionary

..... Although both communism and fascism are forms of totalitarianism, fascism does not demand
state ownership of the means of production, nor is fascism committed to the achievement of
economic equality.
Whereas communists are considered left-wing, fascists are usually described as right-wing.

~ Merriam Webster

fascism
... Philosophy of government that stresses the primacy and glory of the state, unquestioning obedience
to its leader, subordination of the individual will to the state's authority, and harsh suppression of
dissent. Martial virtues are celebrated, while liberal and democratic values are disparaged.


Obama is targeting Al Qaeda? Really? in what form of Al Qaeda? the tea party Al Qaeda? OK, I get it, you take it for
the label...fine....I think the point is that there are no fence sitters...but there truly are those who will beat the rug
to make sure all the bugs are out....simple


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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Obama is targeting Al Qaeda? Really? in what form of Al Qaeda? the tea party Al Qaeda? OK, I get it, you take it for
the label...fine....I think the point is that there are no fence sitters...but there truly are those who will beat the rug
to make sure all the bugs are out....simple


"Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth." - Albert Einstein

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Again, Cic, you posted as if it were a war on Muslims... the war is on terrorism.  At the moment they happen
to be Al Qaeda, and inaccessible by normal means of capture.  
In the past they've been Terrorists that were also Christian, but just as deadly no matter what their religion.

The last Terrorist who was a Christian that I remember being executed by the US Govt was
Timothy McVeigh.  Had his religion been Muslim (as many in the US thought until his capture) or Jew, or
atheist... it matters not, to the fact that he was a terrorist.


Great, I see your premise now!

The federal government has deemed everybody on earth a potential terrorist.  In doing so, the federal government has given themselves the authority to seize the assets of, capture, or kill anybody on earth, whether they are Jewish, Muslim, Atheist, Christian, Catholic, Eskimo or whatever other group, as long as the Administration occupying the White House and their lawyers have suspicion they are about to commit a terrorist act.  And through this whole process, the federal government does not have to prove reasonable suspicion before carrying out their execution.

Let's take this premise to the civilian level.  If as a homeowner I am suspicious of a person that is a potential threat to my life, my family, or property. Do I have the extrajudicial authority to act upon those suspicions and capture or execute the suspected threat?   I'm sure your answer is no.  Not only do I have to have the police conduct a formal investigation to verify my suspicion, but if my suspicions are correct and I do have to shoot an intruder entering my home, I then have to prove in the court of law that my use of force against the intruder was justifiable.  

AND, even if I make it through criminal court, the intruder's family has the right to sue me in civil court if they believe their loved one was wrongfully murdered.  You can't say that about "terror suspects", since the evidence is classified.  

So in conclusion, it seems that the federal government, or the White House to be more specific - has granted itself the AUTHORITY to kill or detain ANYBODY they consider a threat to the state without giving evidence of probable cause.   Yet the people that they govern are NOT granted those same right and are subjected to due process, courts and criminal penalty.  

NAH...BUT THAT ISN'T FASCIST OR AUTHORITARIAN - THAT'S PROGRESSIVISM.


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Again, Cic, you posted as if it were a war on Muslims....


there is you dimwit!! Just ask the muslims!!!

Americans are bombing and killing innocent muslims daily! Uneducated, cave dwelling muslims!

they HATE americans for what they are doing to their homeland, family and friends.

Wonder how much the 'war on muslims' is costing the taxpayers....hmmmmmmm

TAX THE RICH.....HIGHER GAS TAX......paleeezzzzz


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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