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The Democrat Embrace Of Fascism
13.11.2012

By Jamie Wendland

Like most Americans, when I was a kid, I was under the impression that all repressive regimes were just like Nazi Germany as portrayed in old movies. All dissenters were either immediately imprisoned or publically shot in the back of the head, no secret is made of it, and everybody knew and lived in constant fear for their own lives. But, that really isn't the case with fascist or repressive societies. It's actually a subtle process that is done with popular public support and under the guise of complete legality, justification, democracy and to the greater good of the society.

It is, in other words, the road to fascism present day America is taking and it's only being accelerated by a delusional love affair with President, Barack Obama.

While Democrats and Obama Loyalists ride their rainbows and unicorns in celebration of the re-election of the messiah, we on the left, are shaking our heads, wondering how Democrats could support four more years of failed Bush policy. On nearly every issue, there was no discernable difference between Obama or Romney, particularly on foreign policy and civil liberties, where the only significant difference boiled down to who would attack Iran first and whether or not the US military still uses bayonets.  

Democrats therefore, are left grasping for straws for any liberal distinction, drawing attention to Obama's alleged progressiveness, by pointing to gay marriage, possible legalization of marijuana, or contraceptives. Let's be clear, gay marriage and legalization are inevitable regardless of who is president, as the trend of the larger society is already in that direction and Obama has nothing to do with it. It has been the states and the courts, not the president, taking the lead in case after case. So far as contraception, the issue is so completely silly, it barely merits any discussion.

That said, Mitt Romney would have actually been best for restoring ideological sanity and preserving the liberal agenda.

A Mitt Romney landslide would have proven Democrats still have a conscience, placing "principles before personalities" and categorically reject repression and Imperialist warfare, even from one of their own.  A Romney victory as the result of low Democratic voter turnout or third party crossover would not have been an indicator of a more conservative electorate, but, rather a strong defense of liberal values.

More importantly, a Mitt Romney presidency would have slowed or halted the trend toward fascism, because Democrats would have refused to be willing participants. Because, an Obama defeat, would have meant a mandate for Democratic members of congress and activists to return to an agenda of progressive opposition.

During his first term, Obama not only completely embraced virtually all Bush doctrine, he expanded it. But, Democrats have so internalized the belief that Obama, himself a liberal, that eventually there will certainly be a progressive outcome, so they ignore or redefine these issues and desperately point to his few liberal attributes as justification of unfaltering support.

Mainstream, Democratic liberals are so enamored by Barack Obama, and have placed so much faith in his motives, that they have shed virtually every moral and discarded all liberal decency. Sixty five percent of Democrats now support drone attacks, which they once protested, with the justification that they do not jeopardize American troops. Liberalism now excludes scores of Pakistani children murdered by drones, and extends only to red blooded, Americans.

The betrayal by Barack Obama of most basic liberal values which we traditionally have considered sacred has led many to re-evaluate, redefine and compromise liberal tradition. In the past, liberal Democrats universally opposed war and unjust military action. Led by Obama's influence and actions, they now justify these actions by redefining the motives, as somehow, liberal. Democrats have traditionally supported whistle blowers as patriotic, purveyors of truth and justice, yet today, Bradley Manning sits in prison, charged by Obama, our perceived liberal messiah, of treason. There are few protests, no headlines and no outcry from influential Democratic liberal activists or politicians.

The extension and expansion of the Patriot Act by the Obama Regime is simply accepted and avoided with little mention from anyone and the closing of Guantanamo Bay, which he also failed to do. Neither of these issues can be explained, justified nor redefined as liberal, so they are ignored. This is also true of his failure to prosecute criminal Wall Street bankers, the ever increasing wage gap between blacks and whites, the request and signing of NDAA and the requesting and signing of the so-called, "Occupy Law", which prohibits protest when Secret Service is present.

Social, domestic and environmental policy has by and large, also remained a continuation of the Bush administration. Obama tripled charter schools at the expense of public school teachers, (he has yet to "put on a comfortable pair of shoes" and join any union march) he fully implemented the Cheney energy proposal by permitting oil exploration in the arctic and expanding off shore drilling. The same is true of the minimum wage, which he also failed to raise, as promised. On immigration, no president has been more aggressive on deportations.

What the re-election of Obama really says, is that both parties are on the same repressive team of endless warfare, suppression of civil liberties and Wall Street welfare. The march toward fascism and permanent, impoverished class, becomes a marathon, because there is no serious opposition.  Far from demonstrating a progressive agenda by the re-election of Barack Obama, Democrats have only proven themselves equally conservative.


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Man...Everything is 'Neo-(something)' with you fence sitters.




"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for
GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'

Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'

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The Democrat Embrace Of Fascism
By Jamie Wendland


Another c & p by Cicero.  I looked for more by "Jamie Wendland" and found that this piece originated...
(yea hang on to your butt)...
Cicero's posted article "The Democrat Embrace Of Fascism"
was taken from...

"PRAVDA"!  Yea "THAT" PRAVDA!

The address:  Staraya Basmannaya Street, 16/2 Moscow, Russia

(Once again, Cicero shows his true allegiance!  Really Cic?  PRAVDA?  REALLY??? )

http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/13-11-2012/122792-democrat_fascism-0/



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Since Cicero is so interested in FASCISTS...
Here is a story about Fascism today in Hungary:

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"A Hungarian far-right wing politician urged the government to draw up lists of Jews who pose a
'national security risk', stirring outrage among Jewish leaders who saw echoes of fascist policies
that led to the Holocaust."


The group gained notoriety after founding the Hungarian Guard, an unarmed vigilante group reminiscent
of World War Two-era far-right groups. It entered Parliament at the 2010 elections and holds 44 of 386 seats.

Reuters
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/27/us-hungary-antisemitism-idUSBRE8AQ0L920121127


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Does this mean Cicero is a Neo-Communist?




"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for
GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'

Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'

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I posted the article for the IRONY jackasses.  The communist opinion makers see America for what it is - TOTALITARIAN.  Whether it is Fascism or Communism, they surely know America isn't Democratic, Free or Capitalist.    


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I posted the article for the IRONY jackasses.  The communist opinion makers see America for what it is - TOTALITARIAN.  Whether it is Fascism or Communism, they surely know America isn't Democratic, Free or Capitalist.    


So when are you moving to Montana and joining up with a militia?





"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for
GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'

Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'

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I posted the article for the IRONY jackasses.    


Jackass??? JACKASS???
It appears that Cic has a short fuse when he's caught in a lie!  

(Ya'd think that if it was really "for the IRONY" that Cic would have included the website or a reference
to Pravda)

The only "JACKASS" here, is the one that Cicero just made of himself!



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Since Cicero is so interested in FASCISTS...
Here is a story about Fascism today in Hungary:



The group gained notoriety after founding the Hungarian Guard, an unarmed vigilante group reminiscent
of World War Two-era far-right groups. It entered Parliament at the 2010 elections and holds 44 of 386 seats.

Reuters
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/27/us-hungary-antisemitism-idUSBRE8AQ0L920121127


I'd love to read a similar story about Obama(America's) increased drone strikes(300+) in MUSLIM countries targeting his list of MUSLIMS that pose a national security risk. Resulting in the killing of an estimated 2000-3000 innocent men women and children.  

I guess left wingers like Obama identify MUSLIMS instead of Jews to kill.  But that's not a fascist policy of course, because as we are told, Obama's a left winger or a "socialist", and left wingers don't make secrets kill lists of people that have been arbitrarily deem by the executive branch to be a threat to "national security".  Except for when they OPENLY DO make secret kill lists, even putting a U.S. citizen on that list isn't fascist at all, but democratic and just.

Read the Pravda article again box.  Just because you bolded Reuters far-right group doesn't make it so.  Obama is doing the exact same thing this Hungarian group is doing, just to people with different religious beliefs.  Based on the Reuters article, I believe that would make Obama a far-right wing president that is committing a Holocaust against the Muslims by indiscriminately bombing them or locking them in Guantanamo without due process of law.  

I'm wondering if you tee'd that article up for me to help prove Obama and America's fascist government or just because it said "far-right wing" you thought you GOT ME.


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Jackass??? JACKASS???
It appears that Cic has a short fuse when he's caught in a lie!  

(Ya'd think that if it was really "for the IRONY" that Cic would have included the website or a reference
to Pravda)

The only "JACKASS" here, is the one that Cicero just made of himself!


A lie?  You're kidding right?  I gave the author's name.  I am pretty aware that googling the authors name was going to lead you to the source.  

Box, I knew this article was going to make you irate.  Mostly because it nailed you left wing hypocrites for what you are.  I don't agree with the left wing ideology of Pravda, but I certainly can appreciate their ability to identify the American left wing bomb dropping, indefinite detention supporting, secret kill list phony.  

Senator Box McCarthy and J. Edgar Buckstrider have identified a COMMUNIST on the message board!  LOL

CALL THE FBI!!!!!HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA


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I'd love to read a similar story about Obama(America's) increased drone strikes(300+) in MUSLIM countries targeting his list of MUSLIMS that pose a national security risk. Resulting in the killing of an estimated 2000-3000 innocent men women and children.  

I guess left wingers like Obama identify MUSLIMS instead of Jews to kill.  But that's not a fascist policy of course, because as we are told, Obama's a left winger or a "socialist", and left wingers don't make secrets kill lists of people that have been arbitrarily deem by the executive branch to be a threat to "national security".  Except for when the DO make secret kill lists, even putting a U.S. citizen on that list isn't fascist at all, but democratic and just.

Read the Pravda article again box.  Just because you bolded Reuters far-right group doesn't make it so.  Obama is doing the exact same thing this Hungarian group is doing, just to people with a different religious beliefs.  Based on the Reuters article, I believe that would make Obama a far-right wing president that is committing a Holocaust against the Muslims by indiscriminately bombing them or locking them in Guantanamo without due process of law.  

I'm wondering if you tee'd that article up for me to help prove Obama and America's fascist government or just because it said "far-right wing" you thought you GOT ME.


Cic... Bubby!  Obama is targeting AL QAEDA... If those Al Qaeda turned out to be Jews or Muslims, the target
would be the same. It's aimed at Al Qaeda TERRORISTS... Muslim, Jew, Christian... the religion doesn't matter.

One more time Cicero... the definition of FASCIST is usually associated with Right Wingers.  I know that
fact doesn't fit your agenda, but the actual facts seldom do fit your agenda.

~ World English Dictionary
fascism:
any ideology or movement inspired by Italian Fascism, such as German National Socialism;
any right-wing nationalist ideology or movement with an authoritarian and hierarchical
structure that is fundamentally opposed to democracy and liberalism

~ Cultural Dictionary

..... Although both communism and fascism are forms of totalitarianism, fascism does not demand
state ownership of the means of production, nor is fascism committed to the achievement of
economic equality.
Whereas communists are considered left-wing, fascists are usually described as right-wing.

~ Merriam Webster

fascism
... Philosophy of government that stresses the primacy and glory of the state, unquestioning obedience
to its leader, subordination of the individual will to the state's authority, and harsh suppression of
dissent. Martial virtues are celebrated, while liberal and democratic values are disparaged.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Man...Everything is 'Neo-(something)' with you fence sitters.


FYI, neo means NEW.  It has nothing to do with fence sitting.  The article was explaining how the anti-war, civil liberty liberals of the 60's and 70's have been reborn and are now totalitarian, police state, pro-war hawks.  

Box a Rox has told me many times that my opposition to secret kill lists and the assassination of Al Awlaki without being convicted or tried for a crime makes me a terrorist sympathizer.  That's an amazing position from a self proclaimed "progressive-liberal".  

I guess the elimination of due process for a U.S. citizen is "progress".  Or just for you Buck - neo-progress.LOL


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A lie?  You're kidding right?  I gave the author's name.  I am pretty aware that googling the authors name was going to lead you to the source.  

Box, I knew this article was going to make you irate.


Really?  Irate???
I caught you in a deception, trying to pass off your PRAVDA propaganda  with out offering the actual source
as originating in Moscow, in a Communist publication.  

As it usually does, catching you in your little deception doesn't make me 'Irate'... It's difficult to be 'irate'
while laughing!  



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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So when are you moving to Montana and joining up with a militia?



As soon as you join the army and deploy to Afghanistan.  I already know Chicken Hawks don't do that though.


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Box a Rox has told me many times that my opposition to secret kill lists and the assassination of
Al Awlaki without being convicted or tried for a crime makes me a terrorist sympathizer.  


No Cic... Your support of top level Al Qaeda TERRORISTS like Al Awalki MAKES YOU A TERRORIST
SYMPATHIZER!


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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