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Airlift who?

This 'problem' could have been solved many, many years ago, but Egypt and Arabia didn't want to give up a tiny bit of land and Jordan didn't want to accept anyone from 'Palestine' (neither did Eygpt or Arabia for that matter)

When you figure out it has nothing to do about land, you'll begin to understand



you're right....that's what I was saying.....separate 'the kids' get rid of the toy they are fighting over and let's see if they
learn


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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When you figure out it has nothing to do about land, you'll begin to understand


Tell the Israeli's to stop building settlements in the Palestinian West Bank if it isn't about land.


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Tell the Israeli's to stop building settlements in the Palestinian West Bank if it isn't about land.


Riiiiight.

Tell us why again Israel took over the West Bank?





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Riiiiight.

Tell us why again Israel took over the West Bank?



...because they can?  They have the full backing of the U.S. military.  And American's like you that can justify about any action taken by Israel.

Israel has had a blockade on Palestine for the last 5 or 6 years causing mass poverty, they've been building Jewish settlement on Palestinian land. Oh yeah, and Israel and the U.S. promised to block any recognition of Palestinian Statehood by the UN Security Council.  Thet same statehood granted to Israel by the UN in 1948.  Gee, I can't understand why any people wouldn't accept such wonderful living conditions.  

Only if these Palestinians would realize they are conquered and go away quietly like the Native Americans.

Now tell me YOUR version of why Israel "took over" the West Bank.  


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Palestine is Not a Country
The Gaza Strip and the West Bank Lack Independent Country Status

By Matt Rosenberg, About.com Guide

Updated November 17, 2009
There are eight criteria accepted by the international community used to determine whether an entity is an independent country or not.
A country need only fail on one of the eight criteria to not meet the definition of independent country status.

Palestine (and I shall consider either or both the Gaza Strip and the West Bank in this analysis) does not meet all eight criteria; it fails significantly on one of the eight criteria...

1. Has space or territory that has internationally recognized boundaries (boundary disputes are OK).

Somewhat. Both the Gaza Strip and the West Bank have internationally recognized boundaries. However, these boundaries are not legally fixed.

2. Has people who live there on an ongoing basis.

Yes, the Gaza Strip's population is 1,500,202 and the population of the West Bank is 2,407,681 (as of mid-200.

3. Has economic activity and an organized economy. A country regulates foreign and domestic trade and issues money.

Somewhat. The economies of both the Gaza Strip and the West Bank are disrupted by conflict, especially in Hamas-controlled Gaza where any fledgling industry or economic activity is not possible. Both entities utilize the new Israeli shekel as their currency.

4. Has the power of social engineering, such as education.

Somewhat. The Palestinian Authority does have social engineering power in fields such as education and health care. Hamas in Gaza also provides social services.

5. Has a transportation system for moving goods and people.

Yes; both entities have roads and other transportation systems.

6. Has a government that provides public services and police or military power.

Somewhat. While the Palestinian Authority is permitted to provide local law enforcement, Palestine does not have its own military. Nonetheless, as can be seen in the latest conflict, Hamas in Gaza does have control of a extensive militia.

7. Has sovereignty. No other State should have power over the country's territory.

Somewhat. The West Bank and Gaza Strip do not yet have full sovereignty and control over their own territory.

8. Has external recognition. A country has been "voted into the club" by other countries.

No. "Palestine" itself does not have external recognition nor does it have its own embassies in other independent countries. It is not possible for Palestine to be an independent member of the United Nations at this time.

Thus, Palestine (nor the Gaza Strip nor the West Bank) is not yet an independent country. The two parts of "Palestine" are entities that, in the eyes of the international community, have yet to develop or, more importantly, have international recognition to be considered a full independent country.
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"American is something that can be easily moved"



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...because they can?  They have the full backing of the U.S. military.  And American's like you that can justify about any action taken by Israel.

Israel has had a blockade on Palestine for the last 5 or 6 years causing mass poverty, they've been building Jewish settlement on Palestinian land. Oh yeah, and Israel and the U.S. promised to block any recognition of Palestinian Statehood by the UN Security Council.  Thet same statehood granted to Israel by the UN in 1948.  Gee, I can't understand why any people wouldn't accept such wonderful living conditions.  

Only if these Palestinians would realize they are conquered and go away quietly like the Native Americans.

Now tell me YOUR version of why Israel "took over" the West Bank.  


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

OMFG!

Never mind Cicero, we'll just go with your Evil Jew / Evil America reasoning.....Would be a total waste of my time quoting history.

It's cool, alot of leftists hate America and the Jews.





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Sharon points to the dropping of the nuclear bombs on Nagasaki and Hiroshima in World War Two as a model for how to deal with Hamas.





Using greater terrorism to stop terrorism, against the people that you shun, is no solution, it's continuation and escalation.

The mideast hates the Jews for being hateful, intolerant bigots. Not for what they did in their past, but for how they treat non-Jews.

They are the T-Party of the mideast.
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Hahaha!!!  Quoting history.  Your history stops at 1948.

Buck hasn't seen a dead Muslim that didn't deserve it.  

Buck and his jingoism - if you disagree with Israeli/American policy you are automatically an anti American Jew hater.  I see you are using box a rox tactics again.  

Bibi was obviously talking about you when saying America is easily moved.


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That area should be of no concern to us, neither side wants peace and the actions of both Israel and the Pali's prove this.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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That part of the world has been fighting for thousands of tears, Muslim against Jew, Muslim against Muslim and if anyone thinks that any country can broker a peace agreement betweenboth sides they are only kidding themselves.
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Quoted from Libertarian4life


The mideast hates the Jews for being hateful, intolerant bigots. Not for what they did in their past, but for how they treat non-Jews.

They are the T-Party of the mideast.


The 6 Day War was started by the Israeli's bombing Egyptian air fields, and raiding the Jordanian West Bank, and Syrian Golan Heights in 1967.  I would say they are more like the Democrat Party of the 1960's that believed in pre-emptive imperial war.


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There is no racism or bigotry here.............they have been fighting for eons and will continue to..........till the death.

And it IS all about religion and who the believe God promised the land to...............PERIOD!!!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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So is Israel/Jews still in existence because of the united states or because of their GOD?


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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