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If you mean a flat tax on every transaction I can agree with that.
If you mean a flat tax on wages and profit, I would never support that.
That would just continue the system we have now.
no income tax....every pays flat tax on transactions....you spend what you have and what you WANT to spend $$ on....most folks rich or poor buy all that end-cap crap..... |
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mikechristine1 |
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Why not just raise the tax on all the liberals and lower taxes for everyone else -- the liberals seem to want to pay more money to the government,
Well, YOU are the liberal......cheering for exempting the taxes for all of downtown and your dem party political cronies!!!!!!!!! Or have you finally realized that we "nayboobs" are indeed the ones who speak the truth and have proven you wrong, since everything we have been saying about the city and the county is coming true |
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Well, YOU are the liberal......cheering for exempting the taxes for all of downtown and your dem party political cronies!!!!!!!!!
Or have you finally realized that we "nayboobs" are indeed the ones who speak the truth and have proven you wrong, since everything we have been saying about the city and the county is coming true
NAH, he's just a plain old |
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NAH, he's just a plain old
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Our Long-Term Fiscal Future Is Better Than It LooksDespite Republican propaganda to the contrary, the long-term fiscal problem of the United States is principally that revenues are too low. If fixing this problem required a legislated tax increase, the nation would be in serious trouble, because Republicans will forever block it as long as they have the ability. Fortunately, they handed Barack Obama the power to permanently fix our fiscal problem if he has the courage and skill to use it. Bruce Bartlett NY Times http://economix.blogs.nytimes......-TXT-BUS-ROS-0512-NA |
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Our Long-Term Fiscal Future Is Better Than It LooksDespite Republican propaganda to the contrary, the long-term fiscal problem of the United States is principally that revenues are too low. If fixing this problem required a legislated tax increase, the nation would be in serious trouble, because Republicans will forever block it as long as they have the ability. Fortunately, they handed Barack Obama the power to permanently fix our fiscal problem if he has the courage and skill to use it. Bruce Bartlett NY Times http://economix.blogs.nytimes......-TXT-BUS-ROS-0512-NA
Despite your opinion and Mr. Bartlett's opinion, the FACT is that spending is TOO HIGH across the board at the Federal level --- but even if we accept for a moment your premise (albeit an incorrect one) that the problem is solely that revenues are too low .. the quickest way to INCREASE tax revenues is to GROW the economy and you don't grow the economy by raising taxes. The ONLY rational solution is to cut spending and implement comprehensive tax reform that closes exemptions and loopholes so that EVERYONE - including corporations - pays their fair share of taxes. |
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And Obama is wrong -- and so were those who voted for him. Obama and certain Tax and Spend extremist liberals may have won the election -- but the fight still goes on and this extremism must be fought EVERY inch of the way.
But, dV, what Obama is doing is EXACTLY what you have been supporting in the city and county. Tax and spend. Tax the homeonwers and spend it on downtown and all the rich people there. Obama is doing EXACTLY what you have been waiving your pom poms for locally. Government health club, government appliance store, government hotels, government gin mills, government theaters, government banquet halls, government beauty shops. And let's not forget the government bakery that you rave about going there to eat all that junk food. Tax the homeowners out of their homes to pay for all these government businesses rather than you paying full cost for your Mallozzi cookies (on your mommies' dimes of course) |
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Where's my damm Obamaphone?
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Where's my damm Obamaphone?
L4L are you really DV? |
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Despite your opinion and Mr. Bartlett's opinion, the FACT is that spending is TOO HIGH across the board at the Federal level --- but even if we accept for a moment your premise (albeit an incorrect one) that the problem is solely that revenues are too low .. the quickest way to INCREASE tax revenues is to GROW the economy and you don't grow the economy by raising taxes.
The ONLY rational solution is to cut spending and implement comprehensive tax reform that closes exemptions and loopholes so that EVERYONE - including corporations - pays their fair share of taxes.
While DV is a socialist, as proven by his staunch support of the government businesses in downtown, the other thing is that he is like a Romney to. He THINKS the ecoinomy grows by not raising taxes on the rich. Gee, your buddy dems in the city and county have chosen to exempt the rich from taxxes. Would you care to tell us how that grew the economy in the city? Businesses closing, homeowners fleeing the city, foreclosures, no jobs. Wow |
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Our Long-Term Fiscal Future Is Better Than It LooksDespite Republican propaganda to the contrary, the long-term fiscal problem of the United States is principally that revenues are too low. If fixing this problem required a legislated tax increase, the nation would be in serious trouble, because Republicans will forever block it as long as they have the ability. Fortunately, they handed Barack Obama the power to permanently fix our fiscal problem if he has the courage and skill to use it. Bruce Bartlett NY Times http://economix.blogs.nytimes......-TXT-BUS-ROS-0512-NA
until the dollar value changes and those ripples of the world economy laps the shores of the US.... there ARE NO SAVIORS IN THIS.....they are both playing the blame game, when in fact neither party has a crystal ball for the future. but one thing is certain, both parties wish to keep THEIR status quo and keep us arguing over things neither them or us can predict... this is a time of huge change... 1. virtual $$ 2. pre-crime laws 3. personality laws 4. human valuation systems (ie healthcare) 5. the very apparent insidious removal of the public's loss of personal survival/comfort you have what you have because the government allows you to have it....until we start beating the drum of how you have way too much more than me/others..... |
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L4L are you really DV?
I heard someone say it on CNN and I thought it was hilarious, so I posted it. |
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It would seem to me that you couldn't generate sufficient revenue even by taxing the wealthy 1%, to significantly benefit the other 99%. What tax rate would be needed to alleviate the 99% tax burden? If the wealthy 1% tax rates were raised by another 10% above their current rate (as an example), I doubt a tangible benefit to the remaining 99% would ensue. So doesn't this indicate a problem that can't be fixed by tax rates? Doesn't this mean that taxes across the board need to be reduced to put more money in people's pockets? |
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It would seem to me that you couldn't generate sufficient revenue even by taxing the wealthy 1%, to significantly benefit the other 99%. What tax rate would be needed to alleviate the 99% tax burden? If the wealthy 1% tax rates were raised by another 10% above their current rate (as an example), I doubt a tangible benefit to the remaining 99% would ensue. So doesn't this indicate a problem that can't be fixed by tax rates? Doesn't this mean that taxes across the board need to be reduced to put more money in people's pockets?
The top 400 taxpayers own almost half of America's wealth. Taxing the very rich at as you suggest, an extra 10%, would be taxing half of the wealth in the country... quite a large amount from those paying in many cases, the lowest actual rate. |
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The top 400 taxpayers own almost half of America's wealth. Taxing the very rich at as you suggest, an extra 10%, would be taxing half of the wealth in the country... quite a large amount from those paying in many cases, the lowest actual rate.
Isn't 10% of half the wealth only 5%?? |
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