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...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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Back when the tax rate was high for the rich the economy was growing by double digits and now the economy is barely growing and you want to raise the taxes to what they were then. People will be losing jobs and a recession will follow.
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Back when the tax rate was high for the rich the economy was growing by double digits, and now the economy is barely growing and you want to raise the taxes to what they were then..


Back when the tax rates were high the federal budget was successful. And you don't want to return to that?

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The world economy is mired in the most severe economic and financial crisis since the Great Depression, which threatens the ability of countries to confront issues such as poverty, hunger and disease. As the crisis deepens, the impact on developing countries is rapidly worsening, particularly in terms of rising unemployment and a widening external financing gap. A sharp decline in international trade flows, a collapse in commodity prices, a drop in international tourism, and a moderation in remittances have contributed to a significant deterioration in the current account balances of many developing countries.



http://www.un.org/esa/desa/financialcrisis/


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Background

The eight Millennium Development Goals (MDGs) – which range from halving extreme poverty to halting the spread of HIV/AIDS and providing universal primary education, all by the target date of 2015 – form a blueprint agreed to by all the world’s countries and all the world’s leading development institutions. They have galvanized unprecedented efforts to meet the needs of the world’s poorest.

Video link - "Make it Happen" (4 minutes)

Living Proof: Real stories of progress by some of the world's poorest people

Read examples of country progress

Watch the MDGs at Work

2010 Summit on the Millennium Development Goals

The 2010 MDG Summit concluded with the adoption of a global action plan -- Keeping the Promise: United to Achieve the Millennium Development Goals -- and the announcement of a number of initiatives against poverty, hunger and disease. In a major push to accelerate progress on women’s and children’s health, a number of Heads of State and Government from developed and developing countries, along with the private sector, foundations, international organizations, civil society and research organizations, pledged over $40 billion in resources over the next five years.

2008 High-level Event on the MDGs

Governments, foundations, businesses and civil society groups rallied around the call to action to slash poverty, hunger and disease by 2015, by announcing new commitments to meet the Millennium Development Goals, at a high-level event at UN Headquarters on 25 September 2008. The gathering "exceeded our most optimistic expectations," UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon said, noting that it generated an estimated $16 billion, including some $1.6 billion to bolster food security, more than $4.5 billion for education and $3 billion to combat malaria.

2005 World Summit

The 2005 World Summit, held from 14 to 16 September at United Nations Headquarters in New York, brought together more than 170 Heads of State and Government. It was a once-in-a-generation opportunity to take bold decisions in the areas of development, security, human rights and reform of the United Nations. The agenda was based on an achievable set of proposals outlined in March 2005 by Secretary- General Kofi Annan in his report “In Larger Freedom”.

Millennium Summit

In September 2000, building upon a decade of major United Nations conferences and summits, world leaders came together at United Nations Headquarters in New York to adopt the United Nations Millennium Declaration, committing their nations to a new global partnership to reduce extreme poverty and setting out a series of time-bound targets - with a deadline of 2015 - that have become known as the Millennium Development Goals.


UN Millennium Project

The Millennium Project was commissioned by the United Nations Secretary-General in 2002 to develop a concrete action plan for the world to achieve the Millennium Development Goals and to reverse the grinding poverty, hunger and disease affecting billions of people. In 2005, the independent advisory body headed by Professor Jeffrey Sachs, presented its final recommendations to the Secretary-General in a synthesis volume “Investing in Development: A Practical Plan to Achieve the Millennium Development Goals.”
UN Millennium Campaign

The United Nations Millennium Campaign, started in 2002, supports and inspires people from around the world to take action in support of the Millennium Development Goals. Watch the videos by the Millennium Campaign on poverty, education, women’s empowerment, maternal health and the environment and discover how the lives of ten ordinary people around the world are impacted in profound ways by the level of progress their countries have made towards achieving the Goals.

"Eradicating extreme poverty continues to be one of the main challenges of our time, and is a major concern of the international community. Ending this scourge will require the combined efforts of all, governments, civil society organizations and the private sector, in the context of a stronger and more effective global partnership for development. The Millennium Development Goals set timebound targets, by which progress in reducing income poverty, hunger, disease, lack of adequate shelter and exclusion — while promoting gender equality, health, education and environmental sustainability — can be measured. They also embody basic human rights — the rights of each person on the planet to health, education, shelter and security. The Goals are ambitious but feasible and, together with the comprehensive United Nations development agenda, set the course for the world’s efforts to alleviate extreme poverty by 2015. "
United Nations Secretary-General BAN Ki-moon


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They warn of unregulated world wide growth. They are worried that the same corporate entities will go
hog wild on the rest of the world, where little or no regulation exists.

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Ideas behind the MDG


This graph shows the proportion of world population in extreme poverty 1981–2008 according to the World Bank.
The MDGs originated from the Millennium Declaration produced by the United Nations. The Declaration asserts that every individual has the right to dignity, freedom, equality, a basic standard of living that includes freedom from hunger and violence, and encourages tolerance and solidarity.[4] The MDGs were made to operationalize these ideas by setting targets and indicators for poverty reduction in order to achieve the rights set forth in the Declaration on a set fifteen-year timeline.[4][5]
The Millennium Summit Declaration was, however, only part of the origins of the MDGs. It came about from not just the UN but also the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund. The setting came about through a series of UN-led conferences in the 1990s focusing on issues such as children, nutrition, human rights, women and others. The OECD criticized major donors for reducing their levels of Official Development Assistance (ODA). With the onset of the UN's 50th anniversary, then UN Secretary General Kofi Annan saw the need to address the range of development issues. This led to his report titled, We the Peoples: The Role of the United Nations in the 21st Century which led to the Millennium Declaration. By this time, the OECD had already formed its International Development Goals (IDGs) and it was combined with the UN's efforts in the World Bank's 2001 meeting to form the MDGs.[3][6]
The MDG focus on three major areas of improving infrastructure, and increasing social, economic and political rights, with the majority of the focus going towards increasing basic standards of living.[7] The objectives chosen within the human capital focus include improving nutrition, healthcare (including reducing levels of child mortality, HIV/AIDS, tuberculosis and malaria, and increasing reproductive health), and education. For the infrastructure focus, the objectives include improving infrastructure through increasing access to safe drinking water, energy and modern information/communication technology; amplifying farm outputs through sustainable practices; improving transportation infrastructure; and preserving the environment. Lastly, for the social, economic and political rights focus, the objectives include empowering women, reducing violence, increasing political voice, ensuring equal access to public services, and increasing security of property rights. The goals chosen were intended to increase an individual’s human capabilities and "advance the means to a productive life".[7] The MDGs emphasize that individual policies needed to achieve these goals should be tailored to individual country’s needs; therefore most policy suggestions are general.[7]
The MDGs also emphasize the role of developed countries in aiding developing countries, as outlined in Goal Eight. Goal Eight sets objectives and targets for developed countries to achieve a "global partnership for development" by supporting fair trade, debt relief for developing nations, increasing aid and access to affordable essential medicines, and encouraging technology transfer.[7][8] Thus developing nations are not seen as left to achieve the MDGs on their own, but as a partner in the developing-developed compact to reduce worl


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They warn of unregulated world wide growth. They are worried that the same corporate entities will go
hog wild on the rest of the world, where little or no regulation exists.



sort of....but remember they will be the 'plumb line makers'.....do you trust that entity to decide what is fair/valued
important??????

it's just moving the master further out of sight.....if you can't see the hand that is supposed to feed you how will you
have recourse when the cast we are set in gets a 'value adjustment'????????


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sort of....but remember they will be the 'plumb line makers'.....do you trust that entity to decide what is fair/valued
important??????

it's just moving the master further out of sight.....if you can't see the hand that is supposed to feed you how will you
have recourse when the cast we are set in gets a 'value adjustment'????????


this puts America BACK into the shoes of taxation without representation,,,ie: the faceless king imposing rule/tax etc....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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this puts America BACK into the shoes of taxation without representation,,,ie: the faceless king imposing rule/tax etc....


We no longer even need thousands of political representatives.

The people should be voting directly on the issues. Some politicians would still be needed to put forth propositions.

Taxation is totally unfair. I pay tax if I buy a GE TV. If a billionaire buys then entire GE Company he pays nothing.
Even though the company consists of millions of TVs, refrigerators, etc.

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I would love to see a balanced budget and at this point any budget would be nice since Congress has been breaking their own law of no budget for the last 4 years.
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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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If spending is up, the rich need to go back to their regular rate.

If they would cut military spending perhaps the tax cuts could remain.

We spend more on military than almost the entire world.

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Copyrights and patent laws are the equivalent of the mafia protecting your business from competition.

Patent laws cause people to die due to false value added to lifesaving medicines and medical procedures.

Should a man really earn a million dollars for singing a 3 minute song?

Without government protectionism and the destruction of free trade, he would get paid a fair value,
not a government inflated value.

Should a person die because Pfizer needs another 60 billion dollars?

Patent and copyright laws have created an entirely new set of values in our lives.

The cost of enforcing these laws is paid by us.

Marconi invented wireless intercontinental communication.

Patent laws prohibit it from being free for all to use in unlimited amounts.

The cable companies, the telephone companies, the entire telecommunications industry is a government
protected market falsely holding value due to government enforcement.

Any idiot can build a world wide wireless radio/data communication system for the cost of 2 months of cable service.

Patents retard the growth of technology to less than 5% of what it should be.

The entire world would have had computers and wireless video phones in the 50s if not for profit engineered patent laws.

Society is being held back for the profit of stockholders.



Petition to stop only commercial sale of copyrighted materials.

Free sharing would now be allowed.

https://petitions.whitehouse.g.....kinds-media/JsPY0dHm

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Petition to stop only commercial sale of copyrighted materials.

Free sharing would now be allowed.

https://petitions.whitehouse.g.....kinds-media/JsPY0dHm



It doesn't surprise me in the least that you prescribe to this theft of property!


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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