Maybe Ryan could have explained his position better if Biden didn't interupt him every time he spoke. Interupted Ryan 82 times during debate.
Awwwwwwwwww! Poor Ryan!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
"Mularkey" that is what the Obama administration if all about.
Every debate contains little stories of compassion reflecting the kinder & gentler nature of the candidates, all but one.
Romney, Biden (if we can believe him), Ryan have reached out in a human to human acts of compassion. VP Biden is the biggest cheapskate high roller in DC when it comes to giving to charity.
There are no instances of Barack Obama extending himself to another in a compassion manner. Barack is incapable of such an emotion. He is more than cold, he just does not feel. Something was neutralized in his youth. Compassion will betray a mans true nature, by destroying compassion one can be a deceiver.
Barack's compassion is expressed via the tax payers pocket. Barack does good deeds through his 'magic socialism'.
All families have their dynamics that outsiders fail to understand. President Obama has a half brother living in abject poverty in Africa. His 'step' grandmother lives a little better in Africa. If I had a step grandmother, half brother in poverty & I was president with the capability of extending resources I would take care of my own.
Again, Barack fails the compassion test on the personal level. Compassion measured by anothers dime is not compassion, that is socialism.
"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'
Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'
Paul Ryan was very good - not great - but he kept on message. He wasn't thrown off by Biden's bizarre behavior.
Raddatz did an awful job moderating. It was apparent which side she was for.
Joe Biden came across - IMHO - just like most of the extremist neo-liberal politicians that I know -- a lying pompous a**hole that I wouldn't trust to watch my pet goldfish let alone serve in elective office,
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"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground." Lyndon Baines Johnson
1). Ryan claimed the Obama administration has blocked sanctions on Iran and tried to stop them.
The truth: In July, the Obama administration ordered new sanctions on Iran. According to The Hill, “Obama signed an executive order that imposes new sanctions on the Iranian energy and petrochemical sectors to block the country from circumventing existing sanctions. The order also expands sanctions on Iran’s petrochemical industry by making the purchase or acquisition of Iranian petrochemical products sanctionable. Separately, the Treasury Department announced sanctions against two international financial institutions — Bank of Kunlun in China and Elaf Islamic Bank in Iraq — for facilitating transactions on behalf of Iranian banks that are subject to international sanctions.”
2). Ryan claimed that Obama slashed security funding for embassies.
The truth: Paul Ryan and the House Republicans slashed funding for diplomatic security. According to The Washington Post, “For fiscal 2013, the GOP-controlled House proposed spending $1.934 billion for the State Department’s Worldwide Security Protection program — well below the $2.15 billion requested by the Obama administration.”
3). Ryan said a Medicare board appointed by Obama will be making healthcare decisions for seniors.
The Truth: According to PolitFact Ohio, “The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act creates the 15-member Independent Payment Advisory Board to suggest ways to limit Medicare’s spending growth. It can be overruled by Congress. Its appointments will be done in public. It will not make decisions on individual cases. The board can reduce how much the government pays health care providers for services, reduce payments to hospitals with very high rates of readmissions or recommend innovations that cut wasteful spending. It may not raise premiums for Medicare beneficiaries or increase deductibles, co-insurance or co-payments. The IPAB also cannot change who is eligible for Medicare, restrict benefits or make recommendations that would raise revenue.”
4). Ryan said Obamacare takes $716 billion out of Medicare for seniors, and turns Medicare into a piggy bank for Obamacare.
The Truth: According to FactCheck.org, “Republicans claim the president’s $716 billion “cuts” to Medicare hurt the program’s finances. But the opposite is true. These cuts in the future growth of spending prolong the life of the Medicare trust fund, stretching the program’s finances out longer than they would last otherwise…It’s true that experts, including Medicare’s chief actuary, doubt that some of those spending cuts will actually be implemented. But if they are, Medicare would spend less each year than it had been expected to otherwise, allowing Medicare to stretch further the income it receives from payroll taxes and premiums.”
5). Ryan claimed 6 studies guarantee that the Romney tax cut math adds up.
The Truth: FactCheck.org found that there aren’t 6 studies. There aren’t five studies. In fact, there are no studies, “But the five “studies” aren’t all studies and none of them was nonpartisan. Of the three that could be considered studies, two were written by Romney campaign advisers and a third was written by a former economic adviser to President George W. Bush.”
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
[b]2). Ryan claimed that Obama slashed security funding for embassies.
The truth: Paul Ryan and the House Republicans slashed funding for diplomatic security. According to The Washington Post, “For fiscal 2013, the GOP-controlled House proposed spending $1.934 billion for the State Department’s Worldwide Security Protection program — well below the $2.15 billion requested by the Obama administration.”
Since the U.S. Senate did not pass the House version of the budget and, in fact, we have NOT HAD A BUDGET IN OVER # YEARS, it is an absolute lie to blame the House of Representatives for the lack of security in Bengazi.
Furthermore, the President of the United States is the Commander-in-Chief and could have deployed Marines or any other military personnel from any other part of the world to Bengazi to beef up security --- all he had to do was give the order ... A president doesn't need permission from Congress to redeploy U.S. troops to protect our embassies and diplomatic personnel.
The FACT of the matter is that Obama ignored the request for additional security.
The FACT is that Obama lied about the attacks being a spontaneous riot over a movie trailer.
The FACT is that Obama barely took time off the fundraising/campaign trail to even acknowledge or deal with the Assassination of a US Ambassador and 3 of his security detail.
The FACT is that Obama was either too stupid or too apathetic to anticipate that maybe - just maybe - El Qaeda might attempt a terrorist attack in America or one of our many outposts around the world on the 11th anniversary of 9-11.
Obama-Biden must be thrown out of office. It is just too bad that we have to wait until January 20th to get rid of the most dangerous internal threat to America's national security.
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"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground." Lyndon Baines Johnson
Ryan begs for Stimulus dollars, then says that they CREATE JOBS!
Ryan is a frequent critic of the stimulus, calling stimulus "out-of-control spending by the Obama administration". But Ryan requested stimulus money for his district.
"I love that, I love that," Biden said, laughing. "This is such a bad program and he writes me a letter saying -- writes the Department of Energy a letter saying: "the reason we need this stimulus, it will create growth and jobs. His words. And now he's sitting here looking at me."
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Suggesting that elected officials should make the ruling on abortion, instead of non-elected judges is also an extreme departure.
The question was phrased to obviously force Ryan to declare that he will legislate based on religious beliefs.
Representative democracy and legislation is extreme? I think it's just the opposite, legislating through the judicial system is an extreme departure from the Constitutional framework. If Americans want to make abortion a guaranteed right, the Constitution has an amendment process that can make that happen.
But, as usual, the ends justifies the means even if it subverts the framework of the Constitutional Republic that was set up 223 years ago. Tyranny is ok as long as you agree with the tyrants rule.
We turned the channel at 9:45!!! We couldn't stand it anymore. The disrespectful interuptions by biden made our stomach turn. We really watched it with an open mind, anticpating we would see a good debte and emerge more informed. (well as good as a 'political' debate can be)
When it first came on and we saw them both sitting as opposed to standing, we were encouraged that this was going to be relaxing, informative and 'courteous' debate. That was clearly not the case.
The only thing we got out of it......................Biden was a great commercial for dental implants!!!!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
great analysis......I am more concerned about how Biden answers about the Lybia attack....to me this is an issue that needs to be resolved....
lies, lies, lies.....and where is Hillary in all this.......not a word mentioned about her role.....
so far as I am concerned.....the both of the debaters have their own agenda.....BUT.....RYAN appeared unruffled and I have to give him kudos for that...and
he was ready and able to handle the task at hand......regardless of what his platform was......
politician to politican....never get real truthful answers....
Paul Ryan was very good - not great - but he kept on message. He wasn't thrown off by Biden's bizarre behavior. Joe Biden came across - IMHO - just like most of the extremist neo-liberal politicians that I know -- a lying pompous a**hole that I wouldn't trust to watch my pet goldfish let alone serve in elective office,
Maybe Ryan could have explained his position better if Biden didn't interupt him every time he spoke. Interupted Ryan 82 times during debate.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Biden was great. He schooled Ryan. Once again I remind you that the budget is a MORAL DOCUMENT.
Ryan made a budget proposal -- IT IS NOT THE BUDGET since Senate did not vote to approve it. Obama has NOT offered a budget in 3 years. Obama has NOT offered any leadership in this area.
And where do find the definition of a budget as a moral document ? Churches/Religious Institutions can produce moral documents --- the government can not.
Finally, Biden was just plain immature and acted like an a**. As a Democrat, I am embarrassed by behavior.
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