Quoted from Libertarian4life

I understand pro life sentiment.

I don't understand what makes people think they have a right to force the pro life actions upon others by law.

If Romney were elected and abortions made illegal, would you then demand the rest of the world change their laws to become pro life?

The government has no business regulating or supporting procreation, abortion or birth control.

It should be a personal issue, regulated by family values.

Those with weak family values will self correct themselves out of the gene pool by abortion and birth control.

Why is it necessary to threaten them with the force of law?

As a libertarian, you believe in non violence of any kind against another human being.  Ranging from forced taxation, to war, to murder.  The governments only role in they eyes of many libertarians to protect the individual from a person or government from infringing on their personal liberty. The argument within libertarian circles is whether they believe the life in the womb deserves protection from the force of abortion.  It is a hotly disputed topic in libertarian circles and many libertarians disagree with Dr. Paul's position it is the role to protect all human life. His political solution is to allow the states to regulate abortion and out of Washington.  

I see your argument for not wanting force of law, but the question is, when does the baby deserve protection by the law from the termination of pregnancy?

Total abortions to date:

Worldwide - 1,000,000,000

China - 357,110,955

USSR/Russia/Yugoslavia/etc 375,000,000

United States - 54,903,632

Japan - 48,397,144

Viet Nam 22,000,000

India     - 21,911,718

South Korea - 16,976,954

United Kingdom     - 7,994,016

France - 7,364,246

Italy     - 5,458,262

Cuba      - 5,056,150

The US has performed 5% of all abortions on record.

The US comprises 4.5% of the world population.

Quoted from CICERO

As a libertarian, you believe in non violence of any kind against another human being.  Ranging from forced taxation, to war, to murder.  The governments only role in they eyes of many libertarians to protect the individual from a person or government from infringing on their personal liberty. The argument within libertarian circles is whether they believe the life in the womb deserves protection from the force of abortion.  It is a hotly disputed topic in libertarian circles and many libertarians disagree with Dr. Paul's position it is the role to protect all human life. His political solution is to allow the states to regulate abortion and out of Washington.  

I see your argument for not wanting force of law, but the question is, when does the baby deserve protection by the law from the termination of pregnancy?

I guess the real question is when do your rights begin.

I think that the government doesn't belong in your reproductive business and should not be speaking for those who are yet to be born.

Like I said, let the abortionists continue.

Their numbers drop each year due to self cancellation.

The matter will self correct.

Allowing the US to decide that the unborn must be defended opens them up to trying to enforce it around the world.

Families must decide based on their own family values.

Anything less would be use of force enforcing government beliefs onto your family.

Those who choose abortion must reconcile the decision with their creator.

Christians need not be concerned as the sins of everyone have already been forgiven.

One can only conclude that the limit of government must be that rights begin at birth.

Awarding rights to the unborn would be use of force on those who believe differently.

Not the American way.

Quoted from Libertarian4life

One can only conclude that the limit of government must be that rights begin at birth.

Awarding rights to the unborn would be use of force on those who believe differently.

The matter of whether the unborn has rights has already been determined by the democratic process as well.

Disallowing US abortions would merely result in overseas abortions rising as Americans will merely travel to have the procedure.

Changing the law will stop nothing.

If you wanna have an abortion, have at it - but don't make me condone it, or pay for it - for anyone.

Don't force my church to condone it, don't force the Catholics to pay for it for their employees - pay for it your damn self.

Quoted from 1975

If you wanna have an abortion, have at it - but don't make me condone it, or pay for it - for anyone.

Don't force my church to condone it, don't force the Catholics to pay for it for their employees - pay for it your damn self.

I absolutely agree.

But by the same token I could present the same argument against war.

Why should I be forced to pay to have people killed?

The people being killed, were forgiven by the sacrifice of Jesus.

Why should I be force to pay unto those who ignore the forgiveness of Jesus, and decide who lives or dies daily with or without due process?

More people have died by war than by abortions.

Where is my right to be pro life and not support executions and drone murders?

Quoted from Libertarian4life

I absolutely agree.

But by the same token I could present the same argument against war.

Why should I be forced to pay to have people killed?

The people being killed, were forgiven by the sacrifice of Jesus.

Why should I be force to pay unto those who ignore the forgiveness of Jesus, and decide who lives or dies daily with or without due process?

More people have died by war than by abortions.

Where is my right to be pro life and not support executions and drone murders?

I hope you understand the point that I am trying to make here.

Your demand is to not use your taxes to take the life of the unborn.

My demand is to not use my taxes to take the lives of the already born.

Why does the government give more value to your demands than mine?

Am I not entitled to equal protection of my beliefs under the law?

Personally I think screaming about abortion funding while paying taxes unto the machines of war is a little hypocritical.

Wait, let me check....

Yup, Jesus agrees with me.

Quoted from Libertarian4life

Christians need not be concerned as the sins of everyone have already been forgiven.

According to what book/teachings.......GOD Almighty's or GOV Almighty's?
Ya can't serve 2 masters.

Quoted from Libertarian4life

Personally I think screaming about abortion funding while paying taxes unto the machines of war is a little hypocritical.

That's a loaded statement.  You act as if you can't "scream" about both.

Quoted from Libertarian4life

I hope you understand the point that I am trying to make here.

Your demand is to not use your taxes to take the life of the unborn.

My demand is to not use my taxes to take the lives of the already born.

Why does the government give more value to your demands than mine?

Am I not entitled to equal protection of my beliefs under the law?

Personally I think screaming about abortion funding while paying taxes unto the machines of war is a little hypocritical.

Wait, let me check....

Yup, Jesus agrees with me.

The folks dying in a war are not FORCED! Although I disagree with war.....these folks 'joined' the killing fields....they weren't sucked out of their comfortable dwellings.....yes??

Everyone stop joining and let the country reinstate the draft!!!! THEN ya got an issue!

Quoted from Libertarian4life

Where is my right to be pro life and not support executions and drone murders?

It's got a unique name every year - this year it's called "November 6, 2012"

Quoted from CICERO

That's a loaded statement.  You act as if you can't "scream" about both.

Most pro lifers won't scream about war. They accept it.

Quoted from 1975

It's got a unique name every year - this year it's called "November 6, 2012"

Really, I don't see any pro lifers running for office.

Quoted from bumblethru

The folks dying in a war are not FORCED! Although I disagree with war.....these folks 'joined' the killing fields....they weren't sucked out of their comfortable dwellings.....yes??

Everyone stop joining and let the country reinstate the draft!!!! THEN ya got an issue!

I was referring to the people being killed by the US soldiers.

US soldiers voluntarily give their lives.

Why are my tax dollars used to kill people on my behalf?

The anti abortion people get to not have their dollars used to kill the unborn.

Am I not entitled to the same consideration?

Quoted from CICERO

As a libertarian, you believe in non violence of any kind against another human being.
I see your argument for not wanting force of law, but the question is, when does the baby deserve protection by the law from the termination of pregnancy?

Answer:
As soon as the human embryo becomes a "human being" or a "baby".