Is it possible this plan or plan to develop a plan along with other needed actions was derailed by the economy and bailouts? Can we dconsider that promises are made with good intentions and not always able to be carried out, for many reasons. If Obama were the only one to make promises he didn't keep that would be one thing...but to label him for that, when I do not recall one president in my voting lifetime that kept all his promises. I specifically remember Hillary's promise when campaigning that she PROMISED to create 500k more jobs for NY. When she was running for Pres, she was asked about that promise and said "well we didn't win", referring to the Republicans winning congress and George becoming Pres., so that is why she couldn't keep her promise to crete jobs....BULLCRAP!!! Campaign promises cannot be taken seriously....they promise the world with the only goal being to win the office. Campaign promises cannot be taken seriously....they promise the world with the only goal being to win the office.
I am not disputing your opinion on campaign promises.
But if you look at the incumbent's record, there has been absolutely no attempt to curb runaway federal spending, no attempt to lay out a plan to balance the budget and no attempt to lay out a plan to cut the national debt. The administration repeats the phrase "we inherited the worst economy" and then continues to spend and spend America deeper into the hole.
A good leader would take responsibility/ownership of the problem and begin to work on a solution. I am not impressed with the Obama administration's economic team. I can't imagine 4 more years with them at that helm.
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"For this is what America is all about. It is the uncrossed desert and the unclimbed ridge. It is the star that is not reached and the harvest that is sleeping in the unplowed ground." Lyndon Baines Johnson
But if you look at the incumbent's record, there has been absolutely no attempt to curb runaway federal spending, no attempt to lay out a plan to balance the budget and no attempt to lay out a plan to cut the national debt. The administration repeats the phrase "we inherited the worst economy" and then continues to spend and spend America deeper into the hole.
The truth is that the nearly 18 percent spike in spending in fiscal 2009 — for which the president is sometimes blamed entirely — was mostly due to appropriations and policies that were already in place when Obama took office.
That includes spending for the bank bailout legislation approved by President Bush. Annual increases in amounts actually spent since fiscal 2009 have been relatively modest. In fact, spending for the first seven months of the current fiscal year is running slightly below the same period last year, and below projections.
Factcheck.org
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
I am not disputing your opinion on campaign promises.
But if you look at the incumbent's record, there has beenabsolutely no attempt to curb runaway federal spending, no attempt to lay out a plan to balance the budget and no attempt to lay out a plan to cut the national debt. The administration repeats the phrase "we inherited the worst economy" and then continues to spend and spend America deeper into the hole.
A good leader would take responsibility/ownership of the problem and begin to work on a solution. I am not impressed with the Obama administration's economic team. I can't imagine 4 more years with them at that helm.
Show me where Geo Bush had plans to fix it or even directed any activity to fix it or made any commitments to fix it.....his focus was Saddam and that's all his focus was...
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
What is it with the Romney/Ryan ticket? The murky money of Romney/Ryan is becoming the defining narrative about the Republican ticket.
Paul Ryan and his wife inherited between $1-5 million in 2010 and whoopsie daisy, he forgot to disclose it for two years. You’d almost think it was on purpose, well, some people do think that, since Ryan didn’t remember it until he was being vetted by the Romney campaign.
Hey, at least Paul Ryan provided some tax returns when he interviewed for the VP slot. That’s more than some people will do. But it doesn’t look so great that Mr. Ryan forgot to disclose an income producing trust worth between 1-5 million dollars.
As he was being vetted, Mr. Ryan pulled a Romney and retroactively amended his disclosures on June 6, 2012 in order to include one of the couple’s largest assets — the $1-5 million income producing trust Janna Ryan inherited from her mother.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Show me where Geo Bush had plans to fix it or even directed any activity to fix it or made any commitments to fix it.....his focus was Saddam and that's all his focus was...
And if I can provide that evidence, how does that change Obama's stewardship of the economy in his first term? You can set up straw men all day and piss all over Bush. Fact is, he ain't running for pres.
Fact is pissing all over Obama for failures that others before him are guilty of is just diversionary tactics, as you would call it. Blaming him as as been done without regard for the underlying facts is just poor judgement. Some people on this thread are stating that their decision is based on their disapproval of Obama for those specific reasons, and I'm trying to point out you cannot take things completely at face value if you want to make a responsible decision.
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
Blaming him as as been done without regard for the underlying facts is just poor judgement. Some people on this thread are stating that their decision is based on their disapproval of Obama for those specific reasons, and I'm trying to point out you cannot take things completely at face value if you want to make a responsible decision.
It's not really "blaming" Obama and his policy, but rather measuring their success. If you like the federal mandate of health insurance, if you like being poorer per household than 4 years ago, if you like the continuing war in Afghanistan, if you liked the $800 billion stimulus, if you like these things and you think they are the solution to the U.S. economic problems, then regardless of the "underlying facts" relating to previous administrations, you support Obama. If on the other hand you think the solutions offered by Obama are a failure (regardless of underlying facts), you may be inclined to vote for Romney just because Obama’s promises never materialized. My personal belief is, they offer the same solutions to the same set of problems. There isn't a dime of difference between the two choices options except for the rhetoric used to sell it.
The words of a TRUE POLITICIAN......master of smoke and mirrors!
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WARREN, Ohio (AP) — Republican vice presidential contender Paul Ryan says he never would have included a $700 billion Medicare cut in his budget if President Barack Obama hadn't done it first.
"He put those cuts there," Ryan said Thursday, responding to a reporter's question while eating a hot dog in a restaurant. "We would never have done it in the first place."
Medicare, the health care program for tens of millions of seniors, has become a key issue in the race for the White House.
The Wisconsin congressman is perhaps best known for authoring a controversial budget plan that would transform Medicare into a voucher-like system. He and Romney say the change is needed to preserve the popular program for future generations.
The Republican candidates have launched a new strategy recently to criticize Obama for taking more than $700 billion in Medicare funds to help pay for his health care overhaul.
"The president was talking about Medicare yesterday. I'm excited about this," Ryan said during a morning campaign stop in North Canton. "This is a debate we want to have, this is a debate we need to have and this is a debate we're going to win."
But Ryan did not mention that his own budget proposal included the same cut. A reporter pressed him on the issue during an impromptu stop at a local hot dog restaurant.
Ryan pointed out that he voted to repeal the president's health care law, which would have repealed the Medicare cut. The Senate did not take up the bill.
JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!! JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!
Catholics Pray For Ryan (Personally, I think it's a waste of time)
~Please pray for Paul Ryan, a devout Catholic, to have a change of heart on the federal budget.
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Paul Ryan is a sincere Catholic and a brother in Christ, and we ask him to reconnect with the compassion for the poor and vulnerable that is rooted in our consciences and articulated by the Catholic Church.
The US Catholic bishops wrote a series of letters about the House budget proposed by Rep. Ryan, saying that his cuts "will hurt hungry children, poor families, vulnerable seniors and workers who cannot find employment. These cuts are unjustified and wrong."
The bishops offered Congress these three moral criteria for the federal budget:
1. Every budget decision should be assessed by whether it protects or threatens human life and dignity.
2. A central moral measure of any budget proposal is how it affects “the least of these” (Matthew 25). The needs of those who are hungry and homeless, without work or in poverty should come first.
3. Government and other institutions have a shared responsibility to promote the common good of all, especially ordinary workers and families who struggle to live in dignity in difficult economic times.
"He has shown the strength of his arm, and has scattered the proud in their conceit. He has cast down the mighty from their thrones, and has lifted up the lowly. He has filled the hungry with good things, and the rich he has sent away empty."
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
I am usually not a great fan of [GOP presidential candidate] Mitt Romney, but I have to say that his choice of [Rep.] Paul Ryan as his running mate shows him to be a man possessed of great courage and love of country. For in choosing Ryan, who incidentally displays wonderful teeth and a marvelous head of hair (but nothing substantial in between), Romney has deliberately conceded the election, thrown in the towel. It is certainly a clever way to put his campaign out of its misery,
Romney Family Overruled Advisers Ann Romney and her five sons urged Mitt Romney to go with his gut and pick Rep. Paul Ryan as his running mate -- even as most of the other campaign advisers expressed their doubts.
"Romney, who has long trusted his wife's 'people instincts,' gave substantial weight to her endorsement, which, combined with his own personal preference for Ryan, was enough to overrule his advisers' concerns."
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
In an interview with a local Ohio television news station, Ryan claimed he never secured funding through the program, saying “I never asked for stimulus.”
On Tuesday, the Boston Globe and Associated Press reported on documents showing that GOP Vice Presidential candidate Paul Ryan had secured more than $20 million in stimulus funds for a local energy efficiency organization.
Read Ryan’s 2009 letters, asking for stimulus dollars here:
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
In an interview with a local Ohio television news station, Ryan claimed he never secured funding through the program, saying “I never asked for stimulus.”
On Tuesday, the Boston Globe and Associated Press reported on documents showing that GOP Vice Presidential candidate Paul Ryan had secured more than $20 million in stimulus funds for a local energy efficiency organization.
Read Ryan’s 2009 letters, asking for stimulus dollars here:
In none in those letters does Ryan individually "ask" for Stimulus funds. He says he supports the requests and asks for consideration of the application that was submitted by a 3rd party. It is NOT he that is formally requesting funds. He did not fill out any grant application He did not secure anything.
Just another example of 'ole Boxy making up his own headlines that aren't supported by documentation.
"Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock out the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it is victorious." - Author Unknown
WOW!!! Now THIS is a sure reliable website!!!!! They dole out the 'kool aid' with each message!!!
And folks actually fall for it and take it as the gospel!!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
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