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Yes I can answer almost all of them in one sentence:
Some people don't do most of the above... but they are American Citizens and have a R I G H T to vote.

I knew a man who was born in this country of illegal immigrant parents.  His parents owned their own business
They had several kids who all but one went to college.
They paid their taxes but took almost nothing from the system. No SS, No welfare.
They used a social security number of a dead person, and never collected SS
They took out loans from relatives... often overseas.
They did have health insurance for themselves and their employees.

They functioned in this country illegally for most of their lives.

To the point... when the son (who I knew) wanted to get an ID, he had nothing but a birth certificate,
but was afraid to use it because he didn't want to lead to his illegal parents.  He did however vote,
in every election as is his right as an American citizen.

You assume that no one can survive in America with out having an ID.  His parents survived and prospered
for most of their life with out most of what you asked for in your list above.

The homeless also survive in America... and their right to vote is just as sacred as yours or mine.
60,000 veterans are now believed to be homeless, according to Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki .
Do you want to just eliminate their right to vote?  Do you think that your right to vote is more important
than theirs???



Ok Box, the parents were NOT citizens therefore not eligible to vote.

Their children, yes, has a right to vote as being a citizen however, however, the kids needed ID to get a loan for school, they needed government issued ID to get a job, to buy a car and drive (unless NONE drive), they need government issued ID to obtain medication.   How did he get a driver's license---a birth certificate MUST be produced to the DMV to get a license.   Did the parents get social security numbers for the kids at the time of their birth?   Probably not.  So, when the kids go to college, go to drive, go to open a bank account, go to buy a house, go to rent an apartment, apply for a loan, etc, THEY MUST PROVIDE GOVERNMENT ISSUED ID!!!!!!!!!!

Ah, the family was CRIMINAL - they stole the identify of a deceased person!

No way are you going to say that the kids today are existing without a government issued ID.  Its totally impossible.  

Again, answer the questions;
How do the children get a job without filling out an I-9?
How do they open a bank account?
How so they go to college since college requires not only ID but proof of vaccinations.
How do the children apply for a loan?
How do they get over the counter meds that require ID?
How do they get National Grid without a SS# and you need a government issued ID to get the SS#


Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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No way are you going to say that the kids today are existing without a government issued ID.  Its totally impossible.  

Again, answer the questions;
How do the children get a job without filling out an I-9?
How do they open a bank account?
How so they go to college since college requires not only ID but proof of vaccinations.
How do the children apply for a loan?
How do they get over the counter meds that require ID?
How do they get National Grid without a SS# and you need a government issued ID to get the SS#


The person I knew had a legal birth certificate... this and his high school transcript got him a drivers license.
Everything else comes from a drivers license.
I don't know what he used to vote the first time... probably a drivers license was all that was needed.
Once you are registered in a political party you just transfer your party affiliations from one address to
the next.  You don't need proof... just a drivers license and a Political party registration.

All you really need is a picture ID.  A birth certificate and high school transcript used to be enough to get
a drivers license.  
Once you have a drivers license, and a birth certification... everything else is easy.
The kid in this video had a bank account and a birth certificate... and the clerk still hassled him for
account activity.  

The issue, and the reason behind this thread is Voter ID Laws to force Voter Suppression.  
The rest is pure BS.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Apparently mike or christine thinks that the homeless do not have the right to vote... or a high school student
who doesn't drive or lost his drivers license... or a hundred other situations.

People who now can vote, will be kept from voting IN A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION YEAR.  
(If this were an off year election, the GOP wouldn't bother to suppress the vote this way)



no....you're right...that would mean RESPONSIBILITY....if voting isn't important until there's a catch phrase then
I guess they can eat cake....



...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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looks like a typical tax return


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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