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mikechristine1
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WOW...so the experts must be wrong!




Obviously he wasn't paying attention to the area of the US???????    Maybe he was asking a question on some phony blog.  

He just falls for all kinds of scams he reads online.

Just like he fell for the dem party propaganda about taxes lowest in 50 years.  He reads his dem party propaganda--which are LIES--and then he "copies and pastes" it here and he thinks he's coming across as some intelligent person.  

And the FACT that he merely copies from dem party propaganda is PRECISELY WHY he cannot explain "his" statement that county property taxes are the lowest in 50 years!   He's been making this statement for over a year, and STILL HE CANNOT EXPLAIN HOW he arrives at this conclusion!!!!    (because he copied and pasted FALSE information of dem party political campaign propaganda)

He will NEVER provide a intelligent explanation, not even an unintelligent explanation, of the county taxes crap, he doesn't even know what a tax bill looks like!

The only thing is there are far more gardening OPINIONS out there to cite which one he copied from


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Optimists close their eyes and pretend problems are non existent.  
Better to have open eyes, see the truths, acknowledge the negatives, and
speak up for the people rather than the politicos and their rich cronies.
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He's obviously not a devoted DEMOCREEP and buying into the DEMO-OSOPHY...HE's VOTING FOR ROMNEY !!!!!!


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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[quote=142]
WOW...so the experts must be wrong!



Tall Fescue
Tall fescue (Festuca arundinacea) is well-suited to growing in regions with warm summers, and it retains color during cooler temperatures, making it among the best grass seed varieties for the northeastern areas. The cool-season grass is coarse-textured with a medium- to dark-green color. Tall fescue grows in sunny to partially shaded areas and has a bunching growth habit. This occasionally creates the need to reseed larger areas that develop open patches. Tall fescue has a very high level of tolerance for drought and heat stress, and it stands up moderately well to infrequent mowing and average traffic.

Perennial Ryegrass
Perennial ryegrass (Lolium perenne) is the grass seed of choice in areas with a moderate climate and a high tolerance for the cold temperatures characteristic of the northeastern region. The cool-season grass grows best in areas of full sun but also adapts to partially shaded sites. The grass is commonly found in home yards and around schools and parks because of its superior wear-resistance, the best of any cool-season grass, as cited by the University of California Extension website. Perennial ryegrass has a bright-green color, fine texture and a bunching growth habit. The grass is among the moderate- to high-maintenance grasses.


And this is not new advice learned online ...  It was the advice that my grandfather was given and followed by his father when he first planted the lawn over 75 years ago.

We tried the zoysia grass on one section of lawn several years ago but did not like the results.  That doesn't mean that someone else might have a better experience with it -- but we were not satisfied with the results.


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[quote=142]
WOW...so the experts must be wrong!



Tall Fescue....


We tried the zoysia grass on one section of lawn several years ago but did not like the results.  That doesn't mean that someone else might have a better experience with it -- but we were not satisfied with the results.



Of course, like I said, he googles things, copies and pastes, but knows NOTHING about the topics, could NEVER speak about a topic without googling.

Of course, NO ONE would EVER like zoysia grass around here.   It's NOT intended for the northern areas!!!!!!!!   For crying out loud. Ditto bentgrass.

Now make sure you keep providing copy/paste comments.

Have you found proof yet about the county taxes being lower than 50 years ago?  Remember how you posted a copy/paste comment from some dem party campaign propaganda that make that claim---but never provided the explanation, the proof.  Just like YOU CANNOT PROVIDE PROOF.


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WHO CARES ABOUT THE GRASS....

WHERE IS THE VALUE FOR OUR TAX DOLLARS?

WHERE IS THE NEW PUMP ETC?

SHOW ME THE $$ TRAIL...

SHOW ME THE COLA....

SHOW ME THE CONTRACTS.....

SHOW ME YOUR BIRTH CERTIFICATES/MARRIAGE LICENSE/DBA/INC ETC ETC......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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Finally, someone found a way to beat it...

http://www.wmur.com/news/nh-ne.....ulien5z/-/index.html


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Indy man overcomes brown lawn with some paint
Historic drought doesn't prevent man from having green lawn

INDIANAPOLIS - An Indianapolis man wasn't about to let a historic drought stop him from having a green lawn, not when a little paint could fix it.


Tim Birdwell told TV station WTTV that after his lawn turned brown from the drought, he and his friends, all painters, got the idea to paint it a healthy shade of green.

Birdwell said he used the same kind of paint normally used to paint football field end zones. He said he tapes up the sidewalk and then sprays the grass green.

He said the paint is safe for children and pets and is easy to touch up. He's made more than a dozen estimates for other homeowners at about $600 each.


The paint Birdwell used is only available to contractors.  


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SHOW ME THE PAINT....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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SHOW ME THE PAINT....




This isn't that specific story, but...

http://portlandrealestateblog.com/realestate/2009/07/curb-appeal-paint-the-grass/
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Curb Appeal: Paint the Grass?
By Charles Turner
Which side has been watered?  Neither.  Which side has been Photoshopped?  Neither.  Which side has been painted?  The one on the left.

I didn’t get down and roll on it but it does look pretty close to healthy grass even up close.  From a distance it certainly adds to the curb appeal.  It’s the first time I’ve seen the product so time will tell how long it lasts.  I’ll post more pictures in the future.  If the grass is green, does it matter if it got that way with water or paint?


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STATE COMPTROLLER -- Approval by (of town water improvement)
TOWNS -- Powers and Duties (State Comptroller's permission for water improvement)
WATER IMPROVEMENTS -- State Comptroller's Permission (when required)
WATER SUPPLY AND DISTRIBUTION -- Town Improvements (need for State Comptroller's permission)

TOWN LAW § 209-q (13) (a): When a town proposes or is required to issue indebtedness to finance a water improvement, the town must obtain the State Comptroller's permission for the improvement if the total estimated cost of the improvement, including amounts to be financed both by the issuance of obligations and from other sources, exceeds one-tenth of one percent of the full valuation of taxable real property in the area of the town outside of any villages.

You ask whether the threshold in Town Law § 209-q (13) (a), which triggers the need to obtain the State Comptroller's approval for a town water improvement, is based on the total cost of the improvement or only on the amount of the improvement to be financed by the issuance of bonds or notes.

Under Town Law article 12-C (§ 209-q et seq.), a town may provide a water improvement as a town function in the area of the town outside of any villages or in any portion of that area. Town Law § 209-q ( provides that the cost of constructing such an improvement, as the town board in its discretion determines, is borne either (1) partly by the area of the town outside of any villages and partly by the lands benefited thereby, (2) wholly by the area of the town outside of any village, or (3) wholly by the lands benefited thereby. 1 If the town board determines that some or all of the cost of a water improvement is to be borne by the area of the town outside of any villages, that portion of the cost to be borne by the area of the town outside of any villages must be raised as part of the general levy for town outside village purposes or, if there are no villages within the town, as a part of the general levy for town purposes (see 1989 Ops St Comp No. 89-54, at 122; 1986 Ops St Comp No. 86-45, at 74).2

Town Law § 209-q (13) (a), as amended by chapter 512 of the Laws of 1974, sets forth when the approval of the State Comptroller is required for a town water improvement. It provides, in pertinent part, as follows:

Where it is proposed or required that the town shall finance the cost of any … water improvement authorized by this section by the issuance of bonds, notes, certificates or other evidences of indebtedness of the town therefor and where the estimated expense of such improvement shall exceed one-tenth of one percent of the full valuation of the taxable real property in the area of the town outside of villages, the permission of the State Comptroller shall be required for such … water improvement.

Thus, when a town proposes or is required to issue indebtedness to finance a water improvement, the town must obtain the State Comptroller's permission if the “estimated expense of such improvement” exceeds one-tenth of one percent of the full valuation 3of taxable real property in the area of the town outside of any villages (see e.g. 1987 Ops St Comp No. 87-27, at 43; Office of the State Comptroller's Disapproval Mem, Bill Jacket, L 1974, ch 521, at 2). 4

In setting forth the threshold for when the State Comptroller's approval is required for a water improvement, Town Law § 209-q (13) refers to the total estimated expense of the “improvement,” and not to the amount of the indebtedness issued to finance the cost of the improvement. Therefore, the amount of indebtedness to be issued to finance the improvement is not the pertinent figure for purposes of determining whether the State Comptroller's approval is required. Rather, the “one-tenth of one percent” threshold is applied to the total estimated cost of the improvement, including amounts to be financed both by the issuance of obligations and from other sources (see e.g. Office for Local Government Mem, Bill Jacket, L 1974, ch 512, at 8 [noting that the purpose of the threshold was to eliminate the need for the State Comptroller's approval of an improvement financed by the issuance of indebtedness that “does not involve the expenditure of a large amount of money.”]).

Accordingly, when a town proposes or is required to issue indebtedness to finance a water improvement, the town must obtain the State Comptroller's permission for the improvement if the total estimated cost of the improvement, including amounts to be financed both by the issuance of obligations and from other sources, exceeds one-tenth of one percent of the full valuation of taxable real property in the area of the town outside of any villages.

May 6, 2009

Paul T. Rubery, Esq., Town Attorney
Town of Palmyra

1 A resolution authorizing any part of the cost of a water improvement to be borne the area of the town outside of any villages is subject to permissive referendum requirements (Town Law § 209-q [11] [a]; see e.g. 23 Ops St Comp No. 67-309, at 250 [1967]).

2 Irrespective of the manner in which a town determines to finance the capital cost of the improvement, the cost of management, maintenance, operation and repair of the improvement is a charge upon the area of the town outside of any villages (Town Law § 209-q [12]; see e.g. 1987 Ops St Comp No. 87-70, at 106).

3 The term “full valuation of taxable real property” is not defined in the Town Law § 209-q. The legislative history of L 1974, ch 512, which amended Town Law § 209-q (13) to add the reference to “full valuation,” indicates, however, that the term was intended to mean the assessed value of taxable real property, as shown on the last completed assessment roll, divided by the equalization rate determined by the State officer or agency charged with the duty of such determination (currently, the Office of Real Property Services) (Office for Local Government Mem, Bill Jacket, L 1974, ch 521, at 10). This definition is consistent with that set forth in L 1972, ch 950, § 8 (d), as amended by L 1973, ch 260, a special act for the Town of Colonie, upon which L 1974, ch 521 was modeled (see Office for Local Government Mem, Bill Jacket, L 1974, ch 521, at .

4 Note that when no indebtedness is proposed or required to be issued to finance the water improvement, the Comptroller's approval is not required, irrespective of the “estimated expense of the improvement.”


http://www.osc.state.ny.us/legal/2009/op2009.2.htm





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Now, I realize that this ban is over, but if someone is still watering outside of the 7-9 AM/PM during their specific day, who do you go to?  


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Now, I realize that this ban is over, but if someone is still watering outside of the 7-9 AM/PM during their specific day, who do you go to?  



Speak with Chief Hamilton it is a town law that is being
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Speak with Chief Hamilton it is a town law that is being


Thanks for the suggestion.


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Now, I realize that this ban is over, but if someone is still watering outside of the 7-9 AM/PM during their specific day, who do you go to?  


Has rotterdamians reached sooo low that some are turning neighbors in for WATERING THEIR LAWNS????
Spying and taking pictures of your neighbors private property???? OMG!!

And might I add....why the hell are you rotterdamians wasting your family, working and leisure time doing the work of police enforcement/code enforcement that YOU PAY FOR???  OMG!!!

I guess we can expect to see some rotterdamians walking the supermarket aisles, to search for shop lifters too, huh? And guess what? These supermarket chains have their own security depts that YOU pay for when you buy their products!!! See the correlation? Same difference folks!!!

BIZARRE!!


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And might I add....why the hell are you rotterdamians wasting your family, working and leisure time doing the work of police enforcement/code enforcement that YOU PAY FOR???  OMG!!!


Maybe because they won't do the job?



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Maybe because they won't do the job?



It's NOT yours to do!!!! And I think there are bigger fish to fry in ROTTENdam!


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