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Because we elect people with this mindset.

https://twitter.com/#!/ChuckSchumer

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Chuck Schumer ‏@ChuckSchumer
No one gets rich in America on their own. And when people do well in America, they should do well by America. #NoHero


Yeah, I bet your buddies Bill Gates and Warren Buffett agreem no one gets rich in America on their own...


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People make people rich.


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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On this one, I agree with Chuck...
"No one gets rich in America on their own".

See why at .20 in this video:




The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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On this one, I agree with Chuck...
"No one gets rich in America on their own".

See why at .20 in this video:




Is this the same Elizabeth Warren that claimed minority status as a Native American while at Harvard?
It turns out, at best, she is 1/32nd Cherokee...


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This lady is a moron...Her argument is sooooo illogical.  Somebody needs to call her on it and ask her what happens to the roads, schools, and police if there is NO INDUSTRY that doesn't need the roads, doesn't need the public school educated workers, and doesn't have to worry about their security?

She depends on the vast majority of public school educated people to not be able to identify an illogical fallacious premise to an argument.  


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Is this the same Elizabeth Warren that claimed minority status as a Native American while at Harvard?
It turns out, at best, she is 1/32nd Cherokee...

No Tbird... that was just one more bogus claim by a very worried Republican Scott Brown who is running
against Warren in Massachusetts.  Check your facts.

Records show that Warren identified her race as "white" on an employment record at the University of
Texas and declined to apply for admission to Rutgers Law School under a program for minority students.
The records on Elizabeth Warren were obtained by The Associated Press on Thursday. Warren's
heritage has been under scrutiny after it surfaced that she had listed herself as having Native
American heritage in law school directories.
Warren's campaign said the records reinforce her earlier statements that she never relied on a claim
of minority status to get teaching jobs. She has criticized the campaign of Republican U.S. Sen.
Scott Brown for suggesting that might be the case.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/10/elizabeth-warren-minority-status_n_1508060.html

Furthermore,
On the Rutgers application, Warren wrote "No" in response to the question: "Are you interested
in applying for admission under the Program for Minority Group Students?"

Warren was not recruited by Harvard due to affirmative action or to bolster Harvard’s diversity.
Harvard Law School professor Charles Fried has said that any suggestion that Warren enjoyed
an affirmative action advantage in her hiring as a full professor is "false" and that Warren was
recruited because of her expertise in bankruptcy and commercial law.



Now Tbird, back to the subject at hand...
Don't you agree with Warren that:
"No one gets rich in America on their own".


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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This lady is a moron...Her argument is sooooo illogical.  Somebody needs to call her on it and ask her what happens to the roads, schools, and police if there is NO INDUSTRY that doesn't need the roads, doesn't need the public school educated workers, and doesn't have to worry about their security?

She depends on the vast majority of public school educated people to not be able to identify an illogical fallacious premise to an argument.  


Cic has problems with complex concepts.  It's best if he keeps to one syllable words and has a nap before
posting.



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Wrong, here's an article from the Atlantic were she clearly claims Native American Heritage:
http://www.theatlantic.com/pol.....ican-or-what/257415/

As far as whether someone gets rich on their own, its a ridiculous argument.
Using her silly logic, there is very little that anyone can do completely on their own, except for basic bodily functions.....even then, I'm sure she'd try to attach some government process to it.

Her argument is classic class envy. "You got rich on our backs, so you owe us"


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Wrong, here's an article from the Atlantic were she clearly claims Native American Heritage:
http://www.theatlantic.com/pol.....ican-or-what/257415/

As far as whether someone gets rich on their own, its a ridiculous argument.
Using her silly logic, there is very little that anyone can do completely on their own, except for basic bodily functions.....even then, I'm sure she'd try to attach some government process to it.

Her argument is classic class envy. "You got rich on our backs, so you owe us"


So, as it goes, she's as Native American as Barack Obama is American.


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Wrong, here's an article from the Atlantic were she clearly claims Native American Heritage:
http://www.theatlantic.com/pol.....ican-or-what/257415/

As far as whether someone gets rich on their own, its a ridiculous argument.
Using her silly logic, there is very little that anyone can do completely on their own, except for basic bodily functions.....even then, I'm sure she'd try to attach some government process to it.


Read your own link.  "Warren has described herself as having Cherokee and Delaware Indian ancestry". because
that is what she has always heard from her family history.
But
She never used that 'claimed' heritage for any advantage, and listed herself as White... not any part native
American.

I am glad to see that you also agree with Warren that "No One Gets Rich On Their Own!"  It takes
infrastructure that society as a whole pays for with OUR TAXES.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Cic has problems with complex concepts.  It's best if he keeps to one syllable words and has a nap before posting.


If you think Warren's argument is a "complex concept" I guess Catholic School is just as poor a public school.


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If you think Warren's argument is a "complex concept" I guess Catholic School is just as poor a public school.


NO Cic... Warrens argument is pretty basic... And I agree... Catholic School is just as good or as poor as
public schools.  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Read your own link.  "Warren has described herself as having Cherokee and Delaware Indian ancestry". because
that is what she has always heard from her family history.
But
She never used that 'claimed' heritage for any advantage, and listed herself as White... not any part native
American.

I am glad to see that you also agree with Warren that "No One Gets Rich On Their Own!"  It takes
infrastructure that society as a whole pays for with OUR TAXES.

I did read the link. She was touted in the Harvard Faculty book as being Native American.
In this society, PARTICULARLY ACADEMIA, touting yourself as having minority blood even though you are at least 50% white IS an advantage. See Barack Obama, Halley Berry, and it even works in reverse for George Zimmerman.

Someone as "bright" as Warren should know better and get completely vetted before she runs for a political office. She does do the personal responsibility push-off and blames her relatives for false information. How liberally chic.

No, I don't agree with Warren. Society may provide the infrastructure, but its the risk takers and entrepreneurs that make themselves successful and rich. Otherwise, any Tom, Dick, or Harry that gets a business loan, would be rich


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What happens to infrastructure when industry leaves!!

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Half of Detroit’s Streetlights May Go Out as City Shrinks

Detroit, whose 139 square miles contain 60 percent fewer residents than in 1950, will try to nudge them into a smaller living space by eliminating almost half its streetlights.

As it is, 40 percent of the 88,000 streetlights are broken and the city, whose finances are to be overseen by an appointed board, can’t afford to fix them. Mayor Dave Bing’s plan would create an authority to borrow $160 million to upgrade and reduce the number of streetlights to 46,000. Maintenance would be contracted out, saving the city $10 million a year.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/.....as-city-shrinks.html


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I did read the link. She was touted in the Harvard Faculty book as being Native American.
In this society, PARTICULARLY ACADEMIA, touting yourself as having minority blood even though you are at least 50% white IS an advantage. See Barack Obama, Halley Berry, and it even works in reverse for George Zimmerman.

Someone as "bright" as Warren should know better and get completely vetted before she runs for a political office. She does do the personal responsibility push-off and blames her relatives for false information. How liberally chic.

No, I don't agree with Warren. Society may provide the infrastructure, but its the risk takers and entrepreneurs that make themselves successful and rich. Otherwise, any Tom, Dick, or Harry that gets a business loan, would be rich


Warren didn't use affirmative action based on her supposed small minority bloodline to her advantage.  
There is a PBS show about heritage that shows many people have black, Hispanic, or Native American
blood in their past, that have been told in their family history... some are correct, others like Warren,
would need a DNA test to determine if the family stories are true or not.  

On your Republican Selling Point... "Risk Takers and Entrepreneurs that make themselves successful and rich"...
I'm afraid that the facts don't agree with your Republican Talking Point.

Take for example...GWB.  He was "Rich" even though he failed as a baseball owner... He failed as an Oil Man...
But he is Rich... He was BORN THAT WAY...  which once more proves...
No one gets rich in America on their own.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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