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Box A Rox
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Let’s just say it: The Republicans are the problem.

"We have been studying Washington politics and Congress for more than 40 years, and never have we
seen them this dysfunctional. In our past writings, we have criticized both parties when we believed
it was warranted. Today, however, we have no choice but to acknowledge that the core of the problem
lies with the Republican Party."


"The GOP has become an insurgent outlier in American politics. It is ideologically extreme; scornful of
compromise; unmoved by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science; and dismissive
of the legitimacy of its political opposition."


"When one party moves this far from the mainstream, it makes it nearly impossible for the political system
to deal constructively with the country's challenges."

(Washington Post)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....T_story.html?hpid=z2


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Let’s just say it: The Republicans are the problem.

"We have been studying Washington politics and Congress for more than 40 years, and never have we
seen them this dysfunctional. In our past writings, we have criticized both parties when we believed
it was warranted. Today, however, we have no choice but to acknowledge that the core of the problem
lies with the Republican Party."


"The GOP has become an insurgent outlier in American politics. It is ideologically extreme; scornful of
compromise; unmoved by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science; and dismissive
of the legitimacy of its political opposition."


"When one party moves this far from the mainstream, it makes it nearly impossible for the political system
to deal constructively with the country's challenges."

(Washington Post)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....T_story.html?hpid=z2


I'm no fan of the Republican party as we know it today.

The Democrats have several bad habits as well.

I don't really object to many Conservative values. Just their desire to inflict it on others.

Let's start a list of things we don't like about each party.

Republicans:

1. Against voting the same way it has been done for centuries.
2. Against health care reform and coverage for everyone.
3. Against women's rights to decide for themselves matters of procreation and birth control.
4. Against Gays and lesbians being treated as equals.
5. Against giving shareholders the RIGHT to have a say on executive compensation of public companies.
6. Against alternative energies.
7. Against the payroll tax cuts.
8. Against not increasing college tuition.
9. Against Job Bills.
10. Against science.
11. Against ecology.
12. Against food stamps and welfare.
13. Against immigration and immigration reform.
14. In favor of foreign intervention.
15. In favor of preemptive attacks.
16. In favor of the use of torture.
17. In favor of using more oil.
18. In favor of drilling.
19. In favor of tax cuts for the rich.
20. In favor of corporations.

Democrats:

1. Against controlled spending.
2. Against the Iraqi occupation.
3. Against environmental damage.
4. In favor of food stamps and welfare.
5. In favor of health care for everyone.
6. In favor of alternative energy plans and incentives.
7. In favor of education spending.
8. In favor of immigration law reform.
9. In favor of taxing corporations and the rich.
10. In favor of increasing powers of the government's tracking of people and searching people without just cause.
11. Increasing all powers of the government.

Conservatives:

1. Against birth control.
2. Against abortion.
3. Against welfare.
4. Against food stamps.
5. Against lowering costs for students.
6. Against treating gays and lesbians as equals.
7. In favor of smaller government.
8. In favor of free markets.
9. In favor of voluntary giving in place of forced taxation.
10. In favor of a strict moral code.
11. In favor of personal responsibility.
12. In favor of blind patriotism.
13. In favor of war as a negotiating tool.


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I'm no fan of the Republican party as we know it today.

The Democrats have several bad habits as well.

I don't really object to many Conservative values. Just their desire to inflict it on others.

Let's start a list of things we don't like about each party.

Republicans:

1. Against voting the same way it has been done for centuries.
2. Against health care reform and coverage for everyone.
3. Against women's rights to decide for themselves matters of procreation and birth control.
4. Against Gays and lesbians being treated as equals.
5. Against giving shareholders the RIGHT to have a say on executive compensation of public companies.
6. Against alternative energies.
7. Against the payroll tax cuts.
8. Against not increasing college tuition.
9. Against Job Bills.
10. Against science.
11. Against ecology.
12. Against food stamps and welfare.
13. Against immigration and immigration reform.
14. In favor of foreign intervention.
15. In favor of preemptive attacks.
16. In favor of the use of torture.
17. In favor of using more oil.
18. In favor of drilling.
19. In favor of tax cuts for the rich.
20. In favor of corporations.

Democrats:

1. Against controlled spending.
2. Against the Iraqi occupation.
3. Against environmental damage.
4. In favor of food stamps and welfare.
5. In favor of health care for everyone.
6. In favor of alternative energy plans and incentives.
7. In favor of education spending.
8. In favor of immigration law reform.
9. In favor of taxing corporations and the rich.
10. In favor of increasing powers of the government's tracking of people and searching people without just cause.
11. Increasing all powers of the government.

Conservatives:

1. Against birth control.
2. Against abortion.
3. Against welfare.
4. Against food stamps.
5. Against lowering costs for students.
6. Against treating gays and lesbians as equals.
7. In favor of smaller government.
8. In favor of free markets.
9. In favor of voluntary giving in place of forced taxation.
10. In favor of a strict moral code.
11. In favor of personal responsibility.
12. In favor of blind patriotism.
13. In favor of war as a negotiating tool.




You might want to duck after that post Lib....................
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I agree with LIB....

remember remember the 5th of november

ideas are bulletproof


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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remember remember the 5th of November


I just watched it. It was a great show.

A great love story.



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"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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It's not dem or rep.........IT'S THE CORRUPT SYSTEM that the lame stream media and the nub nuts that believe the bullcrap.......... that is the problem.


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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"I've been called a RINO... I don't think I've changed at all. I think the party has moved."

-- Former National Security Adviser Brent Scowcroft, quoted on CNN.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Republicans weren't always the intolerant, blaming, speed bumps that we now have in power; and with that in mind I would like to remind you of a time when Republicans actually had some good ideas, instead of just being against everything.

Many of today's Republicans consider Ronald Raegan to be the greatest republican President ever. I think that despite the

tragic ending, Richard Nixon had a lot of good ideas and could have been the greatest republican President ever.

Nixon enacted affirmative action.

Nixon sought a middle way between the segregationist Wallace and liberal Democrats, whose support of integration

was alienating some Southern whites.

Nixon advocated a "New Federalism", which would devolve power to state and local elected officials, though

Congress was hostile to these ideas and enacted few of them.

As part of the Nixon Doctrine that the US would avoid direct combat assistance to allies where possible, instead

giving them assistance to defend themselves, the US greatly increased arms sales to the Middle East—particularly

Israel, Iran and Saudi Arabia—during the Nixon administration.

Nixon ended the Viet Nam war.

Nixon ended the draft.

Nixon broke new ground by discussing environment policy in his State of the Union speech; other initiatives

supported by Nixon included the Clean Air Act of 1970 and Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA);

the National Environmental Policy Act required environmental impact statements for many Federal projects

Nixon created the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA).

In 1971, Senator Edward Kennedy of Massachusetts proposed a plan for universal federally run health insurance,

partly motivated by dramatic rises in public and private health care expenditures. In response, Nixon proposed a

health care plan which would provide insurance for low-income families, and require that all employees be provided

with health care.

Nixon declared a war on cancer.

Nixon had one major bad idea. He declared the war on drugs, which Raegan later militarized and escalated.
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Nixon advocated a "New Federalism", which would devolve power to state and local elected officials, though
Congress was hostile to these ideas and enacted few of them.

As part of the Nixon Doctrine that the US would avoid direct combat assistance to allies where possible, instead
giving them assistance to defend themselves, the US greatly increased arms sales to the Middle East—particularly
Israel, Iran and Saudi Arabia—during the Nixon administration.


Transferring powers to the states; a man ahead of his time.

Selling weapons to the middle east and not getting involved.  Brilliant.

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Nixon broke new ground by discussing environment policy in his State of the Union speech; other initiatives
supported by Nixon included the Clean Air Act of 1970 and Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA);
the National Environmental Policy Act required environmental impact statements for many Federal projects

Nixon created the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA).

In 1971, Senator Edward Kennedy of Massachusetts proposed a plan for universal federally run health insurance,
partly motivated by dramatic rises in public and private health care expenditures. In response, Nixon proposed a
health care plan which would provide insurance for low-income families, and require that all employees be provided
with health care.

Nixon declared a war on cancer.


Republicans of today consider the EPA to be a Liberal invention.

Nixon recognized the need to help people get health care too.
Again today's Republicans consider that to be a Liberal idea.

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Republicans of today consider the EPA to be a Liberal invention.

Nixon recognized the need to help people get health care too.
Again today's Republicans consider that to be a Liberal idea.


It is a liberal invention.  You just fall for the lie that Republicans aren't big government liberals.


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Republicans weren't always the intolerant, blaming, speed bumps that we now have in power; and with that in mind I would like to remind you of a time when Republicans actually had some good ideas, instead of just being against everything.

Many of today's Republicans consider Ronald Raegan to be the greatest republican President ever. I think that despite the

tragic ending, Richard Nixon had a lot of good ideas and could have been the greatest republican President ever.

Nixon enacted affirmative action.

Nixon sought a middle way between the segregationist Wallace and liberal Democrats, whose support of integration

was alienating some Southern whites.

Nixon advocated a "New Federalism", which would devolve power to state and local elected officials, though

Congress was hostile to these ideas and enacted few of them.

As part of the Nixon Doctrine that the US would avoid direct combat assistance to allies where possible, instead

giving them assistance to defend themselves, the US greatly increased arms sales to the Middle East—particularly

Israel, Iran and Saudi Arabia—during the Nixon administration.

Nixon ended the Viet Nam war.

Nixon ended the draft.

Nixon broke new ground by discussing environment policy in his State of the Union speech; other initiatives

supported by Nixon included the Clean Air Act of 1970 and Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA);

the National Environmental Policy Act required environmental impact statements for many Federal projects

Nixon created the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA).

In 1971, Senator Edward Kennedy of Massachusetts proposed a plan for universal federally run health insurance,

partly motivated by dramatic rises in public and private health care expenditures. In response, Nixon proposed a

health care plan which would provide insurance for low-income families, and require that all employees be provided

with health care.

Nixon declared a war on cancer.

Nixon had one major bad idea. He declared the war on drugs, which Raegan later militarized and escalated.


oh yeah, let's all say a prayer and bow our heads for poor misunderstood tricky dick..................................sheeesh!!! what are you like 12 and coming here for a civics project....................as far as I'm concerned nixon's the one we can thank for the way things are done today in the political arena.......
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This is some of Nixon's legacy too...............

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This is some of Nixon's legacy too...............


That was Governor Rhodes that ordered the National Guard in to Kent State at the Mayor's request.

Sure, Nixon was a d'bag, but he still had many good ideas.

That doesn't change the fact that today's Republicans hate many ideas that a Republican started.
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