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By J. Christian Adams

53,000 Dead Voters Found in Florida
May 16, 2012 - 5:03 pm - by J. Christian Adams
I have learned that Florida election officials are set to announce that the secretary of state has discovered and purged up to 53,000 dead voters from the voter rolls in Florida.

How could 53,000 dead voters have sat on the polls for so long?  Simple. Because Florida hadn’t been using the best available data revealing which voters have died.  Florida is now using the nationwide Social Security Death Index for determining which voters should be purged because they have died.

Here is the bad news.  Most states aren’t using the same database that Florida is.  In fact, I have heard reports that some election officials won’t even remove voters even when they are presented with a death certificate.  That means that voter rolls across the nation still are filled with dead voters, even if Florida is leading the way in detecting and removing them.
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But surely people aren’t voting in the names of dead voters, the voter fraud deniers argue.  Wrong.

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Consider the case of Lafayette Keaton.  Keaton not only voted for a dead person in Oregon, he voted for his dead son.  Making Keaton’s fraud easier was Oregon’s vote by mail scheme, which has opened up gaping holes in the integrity of elections.  The incident in Oregon just scratches the surface of the problem.  Massachusetts and Mississippi are but two other examples of the dead rising on election day.

Florida should be applauded for taking the problem seriously, even if Eric Holder’s Justice Department and many state election officials don’t.
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Florida Governor Rick Scott (R) has ordered the state to purge all “non-citizens” from the voting rolls
prior to November’s election. But that list compiled by the Scott administration is so riddled with errors that,
in Miami-Dade County alone, hundreds of U.S. citizens are being told they are ineligible to vote.

According to data from the Miami-Dade County Supervisor of Elections:
- 1638 people in Miami-Dade County were flagged by the state as “non-citizens” and sent letters informing
them that they were ineligible to vote.
- Of that group, 359 people have subsquently provided the county with proof of citizenship.
- Another 26 people were identified as U.S. citizens directly by the county.
- The bulk of the remaining 1200 people have simply not responded yet to a letter sent to them by the
Supervisor of Elections.
In short, an excess of 20 percent of the voters flagged as “non-citizens” in Miami-Dade are, in fact, citizens.
And the actual number may be much higher.

An analysis of the state-wide list by the Miami Herald found that “Hispanic, Democratic and
independent-minded voters are the most likely to be targeted” as ineligible by the list. Conversely,
“whites and Republicans are disproportionately the least-likely to face the threat of removal.”







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An analysis of the state-wide list by the Miami Herald found that “Hispanic, Democratic and
independent-minded voters are the most likely to be targeted” as ineligible by the list. Conversely,
“whites and Republicans are disproportionately the least-likely to face the threat of removal.”

If you're illegal you should be targeted, I like how they tried to turn this into some race issue, its not our fault the majority of illegals are Hispanic in Florida. On the other hand the government needs to fix the mess of those who are citizens.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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I guess it WOULD benefit the dems to have the dead people voting - as well as the illegals.
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So the comments on this travesty that US CITIZENS are being removed from the voting rolls are about "Race"
and "Illegals".

Let me re-post from the original quote:

~in Miami-Dade County alone, hundreds of U.S. citizens are being told they are ineligible to vote.

~ an excess of 20 percent of the voters flagged as “non-citizens” in Miami-Dade are, in fact, citizens.


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Good, then they'll have no problem providing evidence to that effect .. and showing proper identification showing themselves alive and eligible to vote.
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Good, then they'll have no problem providing evidence to that effect .. and showing proper identification showing themselves alive and eligible to vote.


These are legal voters who have voted in previous elections who now, because of Republican Voter
Suppression, when they show up to vote, will find out that they are no longer registered to vote.

They will be ineligible to vote because they are not registered... If they have a valid ID or not, they will NOT
be allowed to vote
because their LEGAL registration to vote was removed in a Republican Voter Purge.


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These are legal voters who have voted in previous elections who now, because of Republican Voter
Suppression, when they show up to vote, will find out that they are no longer registered to vote.

They will be ineligible to vote because they are not registered... If they have a valid ID or not, they will NOT
be allowed to vote
because their LEGAL registration to vote was removed in a Republican Voter Purge.


There's nothing to stop them from re-registering, providing proper identification that they're eligible to vote in our elections.  

The alternative is to let everyone, registered or not, legal or not, dead or alive, vote in ANY election?  Ha, I'd rather err on the side of caution.
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There's nothing to stop them from re-registering, providing proper identification that they're eligible to vote in our elections.  
The alternative is to let everyone, registered or not, legal or not, dead or alive, vote in ANY election?  Ha, I'd rather err on the side of caution.

MT would rather error on the side of taking away American citizens right to vote!

If you don't know that the GOP Voter Suppression push has removed you from the State of Florida Voter Rolls,
when you show up to vote you will be ineligible to vote in this election (voter suppression at it's best).
The cut off date to register in Florida is October 9, 2012. If you have legally voted in every election of your
life, this year you will be disenfranchised by this Florida Republican campaign to win the vote.  
(Sounds like a replay of the 2000 Florida vote)

These voters did nothing to lose their right to vote... they are perfectly legal voters... but their right to vote
will be taken from them by an organized campaign to steal their vote.



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MT would rather error on the side of taking away American citizens right to vote!

If you don't know that the GOP Voter Suppression push has removed you from the State of Florida Voter Rolls,
when you show up to vote you will be ineligible to vote in this election (voter suppression at it's best).
The cut off date to register in Florida is October 9, 2012. If you have legally voted in every election of your
life, this year you will be disenfranchised by this Florida Republican campaign to win the vote.  
(Sounds like a replay of the 2000 Florida vote)

These voters did nothing to lose their right to vote... they are perfectly legal voters... but their right to vote
will be taken from them by an organized campaign to steal their vote.



I thought I'd only use this for Ronnie - guess it fits for you too

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I thought I'd only use this for Ronnie - guess it fits for you too


I guess MT gave up on his defense of the GOP voter suppression plan in Florida.  
The FACTS must have overwhelmed his opinion.


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So the comments on this travesty that US CITIZENS are being removed from the voting rolls are about "Race"
and "Illegals".


Ummm it was your post which brought up the race issue and illegals, as I posted in my first reply the government needs to fix whatever mistakes it made. We wouldn't be having this problem if our government actually enforced our immigration laws, we can spend trillions of dollars overseas on wars and foreign aid but yet they always say they don't have the funds to secure our borders.


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Ummm it was your post which brought up the race issue and illegals, as I posted in my first reply the government needs to fix whatever mistakes it made. We wouldn't be having this problem if our government actually enforced our immigration laws, we can spend trillions of dollars overseas on wars and foreign aid but yet they always say they don't have the funds to secure our borders.


So for you it's about race, illegals, foreign wars, and foreign aid... but the post was about The Republican
Plan to Scam Legal Florida Voters out of their Right To Vote.
You seem unconcerned.


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So for you it's about race, illegals, foreign wars, and foreign aid... but the post was about The Republican
Plan to Scam Legal Florida Voters out of their Right To Vote.
You seem unconcerned.


There was no scam but there is mistakes that need to be fixed, again this didn't need to happen if the government did its job in the first place. As always though the government can't do anything right and this is what happens.



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There was no scam but there is mistakes that need to be fixed, again this didn't need to happen if the government did its job in the first place. As always though the government can't do anything right and this is what happens.



OK... SO YOU BLAME THE INEPT REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR???
We agree.
Time to get rid of this poser Republican Governor and replace him with someone who can purge the voter
registration rolls of illegals, but protect the rights of the actual Citizens.


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