Two videos... And you assume that the breitbart video is valid? Why?
Because witness statements back it up - and the fact that he was treated on the scene and likely cleaned up before being brought to PD headquarters for questioning.
Anybody remember this shooting in California last October? This tragic death of this 18 year old young man....AND NO ARREST!!! The police ruled it was a "justifiable homicide" and made no arrest. The OUTRAGE!
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Man, 18, shot, killed outside Stockton apt. building
Submitted by Paul Janes, News 10 Web Producer Tuesday, October 25th, 2011, 5:30am
STOCKTON, CA - An altercation between an 18-year-old man and 26-year-old man in Stockton led to the shooting death of the younger on Monday night.
According to Lt. Scott Votino of the Stockton Police Department, the shooting took place around 9:15 p.m. Monday in front of an apartment complex on the 8600 block of Santa Paula Way in which both men lived.
The 18-year-old died at the scene and the 26-year-old was taken to an area hospital for treatment, said Votino.
Nobody was arrested, and Votino said the shooting could be ruled a justifiable homicide. There was no indication the shooting was drug or gang related, Votino said.
Two videos... And you assume that the breitbart video is valid? Why?
How do you know the ABC one is valid? How do you know it wasn't doctored?
And really...Who DOESN'T use HD cameras now?
"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'
Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'
I have no idea which, or if either video is valid... but judging by past experience... much of what has come from breitbart is a hoax.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Another "justifiable homicide" with no arrest...This time in Ohio...Where was the outrage? I thought everybody that took the life of another person was arrested? Seems to be pretty common around the country where people are involved in an altercation that lead to a death, and the police don't arrest until gathering enough evidence to justify an arrest.
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Police: Stabbing Death Of Man Was ‘Justifiable Homicide’ Thursday February 16, 2012 6:32 AM UPDATED: Thursday February 16, 2012 10:23 AM COLUMBUS, Ohio - Police said Thursday that the Wednesday night stabbing death of a man was a justifiable homicide. According to police, officers arrived at 2545 Roehampton Ct. on the east side and found Darrell McDaniel Jr. lying on the ground stabbed in the chest just before 10:30 p.m. Wednesday. McDaniel, 32, was transported to Grant Medical Center where he died, 10TV’s Shayla Reaves reported. Investigators said that McDaniel arrived at the apartment Wednesday night and kicked in the apartment door. Police said that McDaniel was fighting with a woman inside the apartment when she stabbed him. Police said that they recovered a knife at the scene. Two women were questioned about the case, Reaves reported. Investigators said that they found three children inside the apartment where the man was found. It wass not immediately known if the children witnessed the crime, they were not harmed during the incident. Police said that the woman who stabbed McDaniel was the children’s aunt. The children lived at the Roehampton apartment with their aunt and mother, who was not home at the time.[/b]
WOW!! Another "justifiable homicide" with no arrest. You would think that this Trayvon Martin case is the first of its kind by the media's reporting. Google is a great tool. Just Google "justifiable homicide" + "no arrest" and you will quickly find out that this isn't a first in America. If you have any logical skills you will conclude that since the victim was a young black male and the shooter is described to be white, AND it took place in a swing state that Obama needs, it is being reported so far out of context and sensationalized for political reasons.
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Metairie woman kills ex-boyfriend; shooting called justifiable homicide
A 30-year-old man's Sunday morning decision to break into his estranged girlfriend's Metairie apartment and attack her turned out to be deadly, the Jefferson Parish Sheriff's Office said. Corey Paul died from two gunshots fired by Carol Beal, 26, a woman Paul had dated for less than a year, said a statement prepared by Sgt. Larry Dyess, a sheriff's spokesman. Beal apparently fired in an effort to ward off both a home invasion and an attack; therefore, sheriff's investigators deemed the homicide "justifiable," and Beal was not arrested or charged. According to Dyess, Beal was inside her apartment at a complex at 3928 S. I-10 Service Road with family members Sunday morning when Paul, who lived in the same complex, called her. During their phone conversation just before 8 a.m., Paul threatened violence, saying that he was coming over and that Beal "would need the police to pull him off her," Dyess said. Paul, who neighbors described as 5 feet 9 inches tall with a lanky build, walked to Beal's apartment and forced his way in, Dyess said. Beal's apartment is about 75 steps away, across a courtyard, from Paul's. Her door's wooden frame appeared to be splintered. However, Beal, who had recently filed a domestic violence complaint against Paul, according to deputies, was armed and ready. When Paul "went after (her) in a threatening manner," she fired twice, hitting Paul both times, authorities said. One bullet entered his upper torso and he collapsed in the apartment. Paramedics took Paul to University Hospital and he died in the middle of emergency surgery, said M.A. Goldman, a Jefferson Parish forensics investigator. On Sunday evening, signs of the struggle remained. A trail of dried blood led from the apartment doorway down a stairwell, where there was a dark red puddle on the landing. Several neighbors said they didn't know either Beal or Paul, and that both mostly kept to themselves. Only one of several neighbors could remember overhearing them fighting in the exterior hallways. Many residents said they didn't even hear the Sunday morning commotion and knew something was wrong only because of the crime scene technicians, coroner's investigators and sheriff's deputies working in the apartment block. Greg White, 34, who lives below Beal with his girlfriend and two children, said he had never seen deputies at his building for anything serious in the two years he has lived there. "Definitely not for something like this," White said. "It's crazy." Ramon Antonio Vargas can be reached at rvargas@timespicayune.com or 504.826.3300.
Beal apparently fired in an effort to ward off both a home invasion and an attack; therefore, sheriff's investigators deemed the homicide "justifiable," and Beal was not arrested or charged.
Zimmerman followed his victim after being cautioned by police not to do so... then shot an unarmed teen.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Before George Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin on February 26, a 911 call recorded the voice of someone screaming. Whether that person was Martin or Zimmerman -- who police say claimed he was attacked by Martin before the fatal incident -- has been an open question since the calls were released by the Sanford, Florida police department.
The Orlando Sentinel consulted two voice experts to try to settle the debate, and both came to the same conclusion: The cries could not have come from George Zimmerman.
"I took all of the screams and put those together, and cut out everything else," Owen says. The software compared that audio to Zimmerman's voice. It returned a 48 percent match. Owen said to reach a positive match with audio of this quality, he'd expect higher than 90 percent.
"As a result of that, you can say with reasonable scientific certainty that it's not Zimmerman," Owen says, stressing that he cannot confirm the voice as Trayvon's, because he didn't have a sample of the teen's voice to compare.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Voice heard screaming on 911 tape is not Trayvon Martin shooter George Zimmerman, expert says
George Zimmerman, left, allegedly confronted Trayvon Martin late last month, an encounter that lead to Martin's shooting death.
An expert in forensic voice identification analyzing the 911 recordings in the Trayvon Martin case for the Orlando Sentinel tells the paper that it is likely not Martin’s shooter, George Zimmerman, heard calling for help.
Tom Owen used voice identification software to rule out Zimmerman, according to the paper. Another expert contacted by the Sentinel, utilizing different techniques, came to the same conclusion.
Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch volunteer, shot Martin, an unarmed 17-year-old, during a confrontation Feb. 26.
On that night, a woman called 911 to report someone crying out for help in her gated Sanford, Fla., community. While several other neighbors also called authorities, the first call came early enough for dispatchers to hear panicked cries and the gunshot that killed Trayvon Martin.
According to the Sentinel, Owen, a court-qualified expert witness, is an authority on biometric voice analysis -- a computerized process comparing attributes of voices to determine whether they match.
"I took all of the screams and put those together, and cut out everything else," Owen said, according to the Sentinel. Software called Easy Voice Biometrics was used to compare that audio to Zimmerman's voice. It returned a 48 percent match. Owen said to reach a positive match with audio of this quality, he'd expect higher than 90 percent. "As a result of that, you can say with reasonable scientific certainty that it's not Zimmerman," Owen said, stressing that he cannot confirm the voice as Trayvon's because he didn't have a sample of the teen's voice to compare.
Beal apparently fired in an effort to ward off both a home invasion and an attack; therefore, sheriff's investigators deemed the homicide "justifiable," and Beal was not arrested or charged.
Zimmerman followed his victim after being cautioned by police not to do so... then shot an unarmed teen.
First, the other examples were never scrutinized by national media and the police account was accepted and so was there decision not to arrest. Second, it is pure speculation that Zimmerman "followed his victimTrayvon". Nobody knows except the police investigators if he followed.
What we do know for sure, is that with the media frenzy and stirring up racial tensions, even if they decided to arrest him, there is know way a fair trial can be held. But justice isn't what is desired, it is retribution and motivating the African American voter for November.
First, the other examples were never scrutinized by national media and the police account was accepted and so was there decision not to arrest. Second, it is pure speculation that Zimmerman "followed his victimTrayvon". Nobody knows except the police investigators if he followed.
What we do know for sure, is that with the media frenzy and stirring up racial tensions, even if they decided to arrest him, there is know way a fair trial can be held. But justice isn't what is desired, it is retribution and motivating the African American voter for November.
As if African Americans, as a group will vote for Romney??? Yea Right!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
As if African Americans, as a group will vote for Romney??? Yea Right!
No, of course not! But...you can't cast a vote for Obama if you aren't motivated to go to the polls. Nothin like ginned up racial tensions as a motivator.
Trayvon Martin case exposes worst in media By Dylan Stableford | The Cutline – 16 hrs ago
The Trayvon Martin case has exposed some of the media's worst tendencies--selective editing, rushing to judgment, stoking anger for ratings and page views--and it's taken more than fake photos, the incendiary stumbles of Geraldo Rivera and Spike Lee and verbal clashes between Piers Morgan and Toure to shine a light on them. Here are three recent, troubling examples:
1. After ABC News aired surveillance video of George Zimmerman, Martin's shooter, entering a police precinct without any apparent injuries, the Daily Caller treated the tape like a Zapruder film, enhancing still images from the video and concluding that it found "what may be an injury to the back of his head." The site's photo "analysis" of the back of Zimmerman's head--replete with yellow Photoshopped arrows--"indicates what appears to be a vertical laceration or scar several inches long." Keep in mind, this is the same Daily Caller that published 152 pages of what the conservative site claims were Martin's tweets--which, if they were, prove that Martin was a pretty typical high school male, preoccupied with girls, sex and getting out of class early.
2. NBC told the Washington Post that it has launched an internal investigation of the "Today" show's editorial process after its morning show aired an edited conversation between George Zimmerman and a 911 dispatcher recorded moments before the shooting. The investigation came after Fox News and others pointed out that the network spliced two parts of the call together, making it appear as if Zimmerman had said, "This guy looks like he's up to no good. He looks black." In reality, Zimmerman was answering a dispatcher's question: Zimmerman: This guy looks like he's up to no good. Or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about. Dispatcher: OK, and this guy--is he black, white or Hispanic? Zimmerman: He looks black.
3. In an flailing effort to break news in a month-old shooting, CBS News aired an interview with Richard Kurtz, the funeral director who handled Trayvon Martin's burial. "There were no physical signs like there had been a scuffle," Kurtz declared, which the network said proves Zimmerman's claims of a violent encounter with Martin before the shooting are false. "The hands--I didn't see any knuckles, bruises or what have you, and that is something we would have covered up if it would have been there. He looked perfectly normal to me when he came in and the story just does not make sense that he was in this type of scuffle or fight in anything that we could see." Except, he said, the gunshot wound.
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Robert Zimmerman, retired Virginia Supreme Court magistrate and father of George Zimmerman, has been making the rounds for media interviews with Fox News exclusively. He's cloaked in shadow, of course, so he isn't identified. In those interviews, he was asked whether the police knew he was a retired magistrate and whether that might have had an impact on their decision to let George Zimmerman go free that night without taking his clothes or keeping his gun, or doing any of the usual investigation that police do when they find a dead kid laying on his stomach with his hands underneath him.
Zimmerman's answer to the question was a denial and not a denial. He said, "No one knew that I was a retired magistrate judge. I didn't mention it to the police. I didn't mention it to the state attorney's office."
How interesting that he would specifically say he didn't mention it, without any denial that he spoke to them. Do you think that the police might have known who George Zimmerman was before they showed up that night, simply because he had called them 48 times in the past two months? Do you think it's possible, maybe even probable, that George Zimmerman had bragged about having a daddy who was a retired magistrate judge, or that he might have mentioned it that night when his daddy came to the police station to talk to the state attorney and police but didn't mention that he was a retired judge?
It seems to me, as it did Lawrence O'Donnell, that Zimmerman's statement that he didn't "mention it" to the police or city attorney implies that he was speaking to them. That night. And whether he mentioned it or not, I'd say it's more probable than not that they knew who Zimmerman was, and who his daddy was.
(Lawrence O'Donnell)
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
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