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The much touted Right Wing Climate  Denier Top Scientist... Is now FOR Global Warming.
Even the Far Right Experts agree that Global Warming is Real.



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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Richard Muller, Global Warming Skeptic, Now Agrees Climate Change Is Real!

A prominent physicist and skeptic of global warming spent two years trying to find out if mainstream climate scientists were wrong. In the end, he determined they were right: Temperatures really are rising rapidly.

(Huffingtonpost)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/30/richard-muller-global-warming_n_1066029.html?ref=green


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When you are looking for federal funding for research, ya better be coming to the conclusions the Obama administration wants ya to come to.  

He was not a recognized scientist by the left wing climate nazi's 2 years ago when he was funded by Koch, now since he now joined the left wing nazi's the fact he was funded by the Koch's makes his findings that much more valid.  It's hilarious.


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climate change has always been happening....looooooooong before us......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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Climategate U-turn as scientist at centre of row admits: There has been no global warming since 1995

By Jonathan Petre

Last updated at 5:12 PM on 14th February 2010
    Data for vital 'hockey stick graph' has gone missing
    There has been no global warming since 1995
    Warming periods have happened before - but NOT due to man-made changes
Professor Phil Jones

Data: Professor Phil Jones admitted his record keeping is 'not as good as it should be'

The academic at the centre of the ‘Climategate’ affair, whose raw data is crucial to the theory of climate change, has admitted that he has trouble ‘keeping track’ of the information.

Colleagues say that the reason Professor Phil Jones has refused Freedom of Information requests is that he may have actually lost the relevant papers.

Professor Jones told the BBC yesterday there was truth in the observations of colleagues that he lacked organisational skills, that his office was swamped with piles of paper and that his record keeping is ‘not as good as it should be’.

The data is crucial to the famous ‘hockey stick graph’ used by climate change advocates to support the theory.

Professor Jones also conceded the possibility that the world was warmer in medieval times than now – suggesting global warming may not be a man-made phenomenon.

And he said that for the past 15 years there has been no ‘statistically significant’ warming.

The admissions will be seized on by sceptics as fresh evidence that there are serious flaws at the heart of the science of climate change and the orthodoxy that recent rises in temperature are largely man-made.

Professor Jones has been in the spotlight since he stepped down as director of the University of East Anglia’s Climatic Research Unit after the leaking of emails that sceptics claim show scientists were manipulating data.

The raw data, collected from hundreds of weather stations around the world and analysed by his unit, has been used for years to bolster efforts by the United Nation’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change to press governments to cut carbon dioxide emissions.

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climate change has always been happening....looooooooong before us......


....and looooooooong after we're gone............
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....and looooooooong after we're gone............


aaaahhhhh.......YUP!


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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How the GOP handles the Climate Change issue:



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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How the GOP handles the Climate Change issue:



my head is NOT in the sand and I'm NOT GOP......I have history....and so do you.....can you guarantee that 15million years ago climate change did not occur or that it occurred differently?


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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My opinion is just my opinion... I have no more knowledge about Climate Change than most Americans.  I read what scientists who      do know about Climate Change have to say on the subject... and there is almost unanimous agreement.
Climate Change is happening now at an alarming rate, and the consequences will be world wide.


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climate change yes.....but global warming because of humans? maybe....but I would say no different than the dinosaurs of ages past and their farts and global warming.....


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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climate change yes.....but global warming because of humans? maybe....but I would say no different than the dinosaurs of ages past and their farts and global warming.....


You are entitled to your opinion Senders, but it doesn't agree with most of the scientists who study and understand the system.


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You are entitled to your opinion Senders, but it doesn't agree with most of the scientists who study and understand the system.


Science isn't democratic, where majority rule wins.  Science is absolute and unanimous.  Which the science of man made global warming is neither.  It was just 30 years ago this same science community was predicting an ice age.  


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You are entitled to your opinion Senders, but it doesn't agree with most of the scientists who study and understand the system.


their 'study' ranks right up there with drink milk today...oh wait never mind dont drink milk drink beer.....or wine is good for your heart etc etc.....I dont disagree that we have some effect
but our pity little short lived lives leave us very short on experience/knowledge.....we leave little seeds but the direction packet always gets ruined....

and....yes...JMHO


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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Global Warming skeptic, Richard Muller, was the one remaining hold out who advanced the Conservative view that Global warming is     not valid science.  He reviewed the data, studied all the existing reports, then conducted his own study, that agreed totally with the existing view.
With this overwhelming evidence, he changed his mind to now agree with the rest of the legitimate scientific community.

Who do you choose???
1.  One view is the overwhelming scientific evidence and opinion of the entire scientific body
VS
2. The  guess and personal  opinion of Senders and Cicero... who have done no study, have no expertise in the field, and who's        views are driven solely by their political agenda.

Not much of a choice huh?  


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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