A victory for the rule of law, innocent until proven guilty with real facts and not assumptions.
That's right Shadow. Innocent of conspiracy... a very difficult charge to prove. The next time the FBI will wait until the Right Wing Terrorists actually carry out their attack... then arrest them... and a conviction will likely follow. The only difference? Next time, Americans will die.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Just your typical Birther, Oathkeeper, Right Wing Terrorist!
"KNOXVILLE, Tenn. - A jury convicted Darren Huff on Tuesday of a federal firearms charge in what police said was a plot to take over a Tennessee courthouse and force President Barack Obama out of office."
Isn't that why we have the right to bear arms? To rise up against the goverment if it is unjust, and to keep the Queen of England off your front lawn.
No Vaedur... What you propose is called "treason." Because some Right Wing Crazies decide that they no longer want to pay their taxes, get a drivers license or follow the laws of the land... is not an excuse for Terrorism.
What you propose is similar to Timothy McVeigh's view. If I think it's unfair... I have a right to overthrow the US Govt.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
No Vaedur... What you propose is called "treason." Because some Right Wing Crazies decide that they no longer want to pay their taxes, get a drivers license or follow the laws of the land... is not an excuse for Terrorism.
What you propose is similar to Timothy McVeigh's view. If I think it's unfair... I have a right to overthrow the US Govt.
Actually that is one of the reasons we have guns in america, is to rise up against the goverment if they become overly oppresive vs the people. But yeah, this guy is obviously dangerous. I think our forefathers were thinking more of a syria type situation vs "I just don't like obama" wierdo.
I don't spell check! Sorry... If you include "No offense" in a statement, chances are, your statement is offensive.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed".
There is no mention of: " To rise up against the goverment if it is unjust"... Right Wingers do take the 2nd amendment as a RIGHT to oppose their government...
Clarification: If a Democrat is in the White House or Controls congress... then it's ok to overthrow the Govt... If a Republican.... then opposing your Govt is treasonous, unpatriotic, and punishable by death!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed".
There is no mention of: " To rise up against the goverment if it is unjust"... Right Wingers do take the 2nd amendment as a RIGHT to oppose their government...
I guess you would have to totally disregard the circumstances surrounding the Declaration of Independence and how it influenced the wording in the Constitution. The Constitution wasn't written to keep generations of Americans submissive to government power. Government agents are not above the law, how do the people protect themselves from a government agent that abuses its power? The 2nd Amendment.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed".
There is no mention of: " To rise up against the goverment if it is unjust"... Right Wingers do take the 2nd amendment as a RIGHT to oppose their government...
Clarification: If a Democrat is in the White House or Controls congress... then it's ok to overthrow the Govt... If a Republican.... then opposing your Govt is treasonous, unpatriotic, and punishable by death!
The non-mention of "To rise up against the government if it is unjust" is due to the fact that it is implied in the "being necessary to the security of a free State."
And as far as your clarification goes, it doesn't matter which part is in the White House or controls Congress, especially now, considering they're both the same, although it is ironic that for some reason, the Republicans have a little less to fear with the way they govern than do the Democrats.
I would hope the Honorable Attorney General will focus his efforts on Schenectady County -- where the REAL right - wing nayboobs are concentrated.. You would be surprised how a few well - written letters could influence both our REASONABLE representatives AND the Justice Department people. I wouldn't be surprised if something happens on the Federal level to protect the public here in OUR county..........
"We have to talk about liberating minds as well as liberating society." ---Angela Davis
"When you put a tiny and despised minority up for a popular vote, the minority usually loses." ---Andrew Sullivan
I would hope the Honorable Attorney General will focus his efforts on Schenectady County -- where the REAL right - wing nayboobs are concentrated.. You would be surprised how a few well - written letters could influence both our REASONABLE representatives AND the Justice Department people. I wouldn't be surprised if something happens on the Federal level to protect the public here in OUR county..........
GFY
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
I would hope the Honorable Attorney General will focus his efforts on Schenectady County
With his failure with this and 'Fast and Furious' in the south, he might as well.
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where the REAL right - wing nayboobs are concentrated
I know bro!...I mean look at all the radical right-wing people in charge around here.
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You would be surprised how a few well - written letters thousand dollars to thier re-election campagin or a million dollars to thier super PAC could influence both our REASONABLE representatives AND the Justice Department people.
Fixed that for you.
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I wouldn't be surprised if something happens on the Federal level to protect the public here in OUR county
Are the Canadians ready to attack?
In concusion:
"Approval ratings go up and down for various reasons... An example is the high post 911 support for GWB even though he could be said to be responsible for the event." --- Box A Rox '9/11 Truther'
Melania is a bimbo... she is there to look at, not to listen to. --- Box A Rox and his 'War on Women'
So according to the wacked out Right Wingers on this board.... When GWB was waging an illegal war in Iraq... I had the Right... NO The OBLIGATION to go shoot him to end the unconstitutional war...
According to Cicero: "Government agents (GWB) are not above the law, how do the people protect themselves from a government agent (Like GWB) that abuses its power? The 2nd Amendment."
So... ~ Lee Harvey Oswald then was with in the law guaranteed by the 2nd amendment. ~ John Wilkes Booth, who shot Lincoln, ~ Charles J. Guiteau, who assassinated Garfield, ~ Leon Czolgosz, who killed McKinley... were all patriots exercising their 2ND amendment rights... not just low life assassins who took it upon themselves to kill US presidents.
I wonder why there isn't a John Wilkes Booth Day... Instead of a Abraham Lincoln Day??? Very strange.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
were all patriots exercising their 2ND amendment rights... not just low life assassins who took it upon themselves to kill US presidents.
Geez box, all the assassins you listed were punished by the state. I was thinking about 2nd amendment rights to protect us from the governments paid assassins that are given immunity from laws.
Box subscribe to the idea that the government should have a monopoly on the use of force. Luckily our founders had the foresight to know that there would be totalitarians like Box who romanticize the use of government force and coercion to bend the minority to the will of the majority. Our Republic was designed to prevent a simple majority democratic tyranny. That is why box uses the obsessive reference of public polling to justify the tyrannical actions. Box would have posted that 59% of Germans supported Jews be put in concentration camps to justify it. And those who were sympathetic to the Jews would be considered treasonous.
A victory for the rule of law, innocent until proven guilty with real facts and not assumptions.
Shadow, I'm glad that we agree a Hutaree conviction and up to 10 years in prison & a quarter million dollar fine, upholds the Rule of Law. David Stone, Sr. and Joshua Stone, both admitted to "possession of machine guns", a felony. Based on their felony convictions, the Stones will never be allowed to possess firearms again.
U.S. Attorney Barbara McQuade called the court’s order “disappointing” but said it “does not shake our commitment to dismantling groups who would harm our citizens and law enforcement officers, and these efforts will continue.”
“While we disagree with the court’s decision, we respect its role, and we recognize that reasonable minds can disagree on where legal lines are drawn,” McQuade said.
On a lighter note... The Bride wore a strapless black & white gown and carried an AR 16 with extended magazine... The Groom wore Olive Drab camouflage, and accessorized with a black Bushmaster .223 caliber machine gun with matching grenade launcher. The happy couple plan to spend their honeymoon in the backyard bunker, reloading a few thousand 7.62 rounds for their M-60.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
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