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bumblethru
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Come on rotterdamians and cut the crap!!!! And please let's stop the rhetorical 'fear tactic' that there will be only ONE pharmacyin town! OMG! Seniors will be dying in the streets because they can't get their meds!!! Sound familiar.....REMS tried the same thing!!

DUE TO DECADES OF POOR PLANNING.......creating a patchwork quilt of a town.......there is CLEARLY no room or appropriate place for a big box anything!! It really doesn't take a rocket scientist here folks.

The truth of the matter is.......Rite Aide and CVS are known for their 'cheap beer'!!!! There pharmacy is made up of cookie cutter pharmacists. (I know cause I have relatives that work there)

As far as businesses paying taxes......when was the last time a fairly new business paid their fair/full share in taxes???? I mean come on....even apartment complexes like Long Pond got a very lucrative pilot!!!

Let's get real here rotterdamians!!

First....there is no room left in the center of the town of rotterdam
Second....the tax base will remain almost the same after the new business gets their pilot.
Third....the taxes in rotterdam are on the high side due to the mismanagement of it's elected officials. The town clerk's office and the als $$$ is just one clear example of the over spending and irresponsibility toward the taxpayers!!!!


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Quoted from bumblethru


First....there is no room left in the center of the town of rotterdam



So, nothing should go on that corner except green space?  So Curry Road shouldn't be developed?  Hamburg St shouldn't be developed?

Must be nice living outside the town and being able to look through the window to see what's going on here.  If you actually LIVED here, maybe you would have a different opinion.
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BT I agree.  

MT a high vehicle volume building will not work well at 4 corners with the current road configuration at 4 corners.  We could build a roundabout for the CVS but we'd have to displace 2 locally owned buisnesses to do so plus we'd need to get the funding after we get funding for five corners!
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83.7% of this town is residential


You just said it.....I didn't!!  
Rotterdam is packed solid and over 3/4's of it's population/property IS RESIDENTIAL!!! Hardly a 'handful' wouldn't ya say? If ya got a bit@h, go to the building on Sunrise Blvd and talk to the elected folks who have made rotterdam the mess it is today. The last administrations have changed and or passed zoning after zoning after zoning for MFH aka RESIDENTIAL HOUSING! If memory serves me correctly, didn't rotterdamians fight to keep DeLorenzo from building yet ANOTHER MFH around Floral Ave....and lost? And how many apts are going up on the 'triangle'? How about that zoning change on a tax delinquent property owner by Eldorado Acres?

You said it and you are correct.....rotterdam is jam packed and mostly with residential! And all in a town with nothing more then 2 LANE STREETS!!

Again........ya just can't pack 10 lbs of sh!t in a 5 lb bag....no rocket science here folks!




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Get a new Administration with 21st century ideas and things would change in this Town...

Until that happens.....same o same o...including the kind of business they want here...

With all that is happening within the Regime things will defi nitely come unglued.....and about time......from Top to Bottom....

MOVE FORWARD AND GET NEW BLOOD IN THE GOVERNMENT....get rid of the ones that have created "FAMILIA"....this is USA and not Sicily.
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Quoted from Patches
Get a new Administration with 21st century ideas and things would change in this Town...

Until that happens.....same o same o...including the kind of business they want here...

With all that is happening within the Regime things will defi nitely come unglued.....and about time......from Top to Bottom....

MOVE FORWARD AND GET NEW BLOOD IN THE GOVERNMENT....get rid of the ones that have created "FAMILIA"....this is USA and not Sicily.


The CLEAR point is.........THERE IS NO MORE ROOM IN ROTTERDAM TO BUILD/DEVELOP ANYTHING!!! The only strips of land left is far east and west of the town. And even that is going to be questionable due to traffic on one end and a school on the other. And all in a town with nothing more then 2 LANE STREETS!!
Rotterdam has become a small town sh!thole!! Driving through it is depressing at best! It looks like Deliverance!!!!




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BB notice the names  who have created this....old thinking....tunnel vision......that's what I am saying.....names ending in vowels.....they have gotten away

with all this chaos....change the atmosphere.....change the painting....change attitude.....that's what I want to see.....then move on from there...

you sound the same all the time......give it up and look to the future with confidence instead of bringing up the same old rhetoric....that's all I am stating..

you can change what you don't acknowledge.....per Dr Phil...
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My point is that it is a cheesy plastic milk jug pharmacy that can be found anywhere AND one can get their medications MAILED TO THEM.....

saying a CVS is a cornerstone of style, development or increase in choice is a LIE...............................

THE ONLY FOLKS IT BENEFITS ARE THOSE SELLING/DEVELOPING THE PROPERTY.....and we all know what a chicken farm Rotterdam has turned into thanks to past
style, planning and benefitting.......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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Tie vote may again spell end to plan for Rotterdam CVS
Thursday, April 19, 2012
By Justin Mason (Contact)
Gazette Reporter

ROTTERDAM — CVS Pharmacy’s plan to build a new store at the corner of Guilderland Avenue and Curry Road appears to be dead again.
Members of the Town Board failed to reach a consensus at their April 11 meeting on whether to set a public hearing for a controversial zoning change needed for project.
Board members Matt Martin and Wayne Calder both voted against advancing the change to the public hearing legally required before the board can act.
Supervisor Harry Buffardi and board member Robert Godlewski both voted to schedule the public hearing, but board member Michael Viscusi was absent, thereby leaving the vote tied and the resolution defeated.
An attorney representing CVS declined to comment about the most recent setback. Buffardi said last week’s vote brings serious doubt to whether there will ever be enough support on the board to advance the zone change some have said would encroach commercial interests into a residential neighborhood.
“I don’t know if there’s going to be any will to put it back on [the board’s agenda],” he said.
CVS proposed demolishing a cluster of homes and a dilapidated mixed-used building to construct a two-story, 13,225-square-foot building with an 80-space parking lot. The company also planned to close locations it rents at Rotterdam’s Five Corners and on Broadway.
The intersection where the new store was proposed is directly across from a Rite Aid built in 2006. That project resulted in the demolition of three mixed-use buildings.
CVS faced strong criticism from residents early on. Homeowners living near Lawndale Avenue blasted the project as being a threat to their quality of life and property values when it was first proposed in September 2011.
Some feared traffic from CVS would pour down Lawndale in order to avoid the oft-congested Curry Road intersection. Others questioned how the day-to-day operation of a business anchoring the block would impact life in an otherwise residential area.
Board members refused to send the project to the Planning Commission by a 3-2 vote in October 2011, essentially halting progress on the company’s zone change application. The issue was revived in February, when the newly installed Town Board sought the commission’s opinion.
But commission members weren’t pleased by the CVS proposal and ultimately decided not to support the change.
The company subsequently approached the Town Board and asked it to vote on scheduling a public hearing.
Buffardi said he supported moving the project to a public hearing in order to follow the process. He also questioned whether stopping CVS in its tracks might negatively reflect on the town and impact future economic development, citing another major corporation that was stymied from building in the town.
Wal-Mart scrapped plans to build a supercenter at the site of the former town Republican Club on Burdeck Street in 2006. The company pulled the project after the Town Board drafted a critical impact law that gave it veto power over projects larger than 100,000 square feet approved by the commission.
“I don’t know if we want to chase out another Fortune 500 business,” Buffardi said.

http://www.dailygazette.com/news/2012/apr/19/0419_cvs/
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Don't worry "BUFF"...if there's money to be made, they will be around.  Why not propose some alternate locations to them that won't be so intrusive????? How about HAMBURG????


JUST BECAUSE SISSY SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO...BUT HE THINKS IT DOES!!!!!  
JUST BECAUSE MC1 SAYS SO DOESN'T MAKE IT SO!!!!!  
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“I don’t know if we want to chase out another Fortune 500 business,” Buffardi said.


Rotterdam can't squeeze in even a Fortune '1' business.


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Rotterdam can't squeeze in even a Fortune '1' business.


I think you mean Fortune 1,000,000.  After all, we haven't even squeezed in Ronnie's BBQ Joint.  Maybe that would be small enough to not destroy the neighborhood.  Plus, it would have the added bonus of him sitting at the counter / in the booth, which would ensure keeping the number of customers coming in the door at a rather low level.


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Congratulations Rotterdam, expect these to go up significantly to pay for all the new projects this, and future town boards will pass through

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let em build, but shrink it down a little to fit the town

was the new plan ever released on here? with lawndale as a deadend?

where was Mikey V.???  afraid to the be the third vote and have the decision be his???  real leadership
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Quoted from littlesal
let em build, but shrink it down a little to fit the town

was the new plan ever released on here? with lawndale as a deadend?

where was Mikey V.???  afraid to the be the third vote and have the decision be his???  real leadership


Just like the others on the board now and previously, when there's a big decision to be made in this small town, they're "previously occupied" with "very important business," i.e. vacation.


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