Quoted from joebxr

“The thing that concerns me is that the opposition seems to be … isn’t that they are objecting it to being a retail business, but they are objecting to it being a CVS,” Severson said.

Ron, answer this one question....how could you and why would you make this comment.  What information did you have that the residents were basically oppossed because it was CVS?
Wasn't this disrespectful to the residents and other board members of whom none felt this way...and hurtful enough to the residents that they felt compelled to speak up and say "NO" when you made the comment.

Quoted from joebxr

WHY WON'T YOU ANSWER THIS? WHY DO YOU RUN AWAY FROM ANSWERING A LEGITIMATE QUESTION ABOUT YOUR COMMENT?

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

If you are a town resident and you have a question to ask me  ----  call town hall, leave your name and number .. and I will make arrangements to meet you.

Quoted from bumblethru

I don't usually respond to hamburg/dvor's posts, and usually don't even read them. But since I had to follow the train of posting here.....I personally found no issue with dvor's vote in favor of the cvs. It was dvor's independent vote. That is what dvor is there for....yes?

HOWEVER...........I do take issue with the fact that dvor labels everyone on this forum who was not in favor of this cvs project 'as proposed'....a NAYBOOB!!! So we can assume that dvor considers 'all' those on the planning board who voted 'no' also NAYBOOBS.....yes?

The planning board had the same concerns as most of those who questioned this development from the start. You can't have it both ways.  

Quoted from DemocraticVoiceOfReason

The fact is that the "nayboobs" like Joeboxr and Rampage would have found some reason to attack my vote even if I had voted the way they wanted.    They have proven this on numerous occasions on this website when they have insulted and attacked me EVEN WHEN I AGREED WITH THEM.

Quoted from Stringer

senders, what the heck is patina?

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1

a: a usually green film formed naturally on copper and bronze by long exposure or artificially (as by acids) and often valued aesthetically for its color b: a surface appearance of something grown beautiful especially with age or use


2

: an appearance or aura that is derived from association, habit, or established character this is what I am mostly referring to.......
3

: a superficial covering or exterior


See patina defined for English-language learners »


Examples of PATINA




Origin of PATINA

Italian, from Latin, shallow dish — more at paten
First Known Use: 1748


Related to PATINA





Synonyms: air, ambience (or ambiance), aroma, atmosphere, climate, flavor, halo, karma, mood, nimbus, note, odor, aura, smell, temper, vibration(s)



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Quoted from GrahamBonnet

The lay definition in this manner is that Patina is an acquired look that takes time to develop on an antique or other valuable item. On an old piece of furniture, the finish may become crinkled and pretty. On an antique car, the leather seats may crackle and the paint may have dullness in areas. But the original beauty still looks amazing.

On a building for instance- the copper snowslides might turn green. The red cedar shakes might blacken, and the bronze lanterns might darken from exposure to elements. All desirable and acquired architectural features that are not FOUND ON vinyl or fake stucco coated structures made from pink cement blocks or cheaply built facades. When you visit an old seaside village or a small town in the midwest you might see a commercial strip made up of wooden sided building with many coats of paint that are finely maintained depending on the pride level. Senders is bemoaning the lack of taste in the way the new structures are designed and slapped together with no coherence or cohesive element which unifies them. I concur. Rotterdam is one example where there is NO sense architectural theme or guidance and NO sense of anything but hodgepodge and helter skelter. There is a feeling of false "class" that defines the Italianate revival structures as well. Often I recognize that the profession of architect has become filled with nitwits and blind people. Take a drive down Altamont Avenue and tell me otherwise. The town is filled with flotsam and jetsam too.

Quoted from littlesal

You mean that crap that is already crumbling off of the DSS building?

Anybody notice the extremely cheap construction of those dorms by armory? Tell me those are built to last?

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Planned obsolescence or built-in obsolescence[1] in industrial design is a policy of planning or designing a product with a limited useful life, so it will become obsolete, that is, unfashionable or no longer functional after a certain period of time.[1] Planned obsolescence has potential benefits for a producer because to obtain continuing use of the product the consumer is under pressure to purchase again, whether from the same manufacturer (a replacement part or a newer model), or from a competitor which might also rely on planned obsolescence.[1] The practice of planned obsolescence has potential benefits for the consumer as well since it attempts to take into account the fact of high pace of change in modern society: new technological developments make earlier technological solutions rapidly obsolete, and new design fashions make earlier fashions look speedily out of date.

In some cases, deliberate deprecation of earlier versions of a technology is used to reduce ongoing support costs, especially in the software industry. Though this could be considered planned obselescence, it differs from the classic form in that the consumer is typically made aware of the limited support lifetime of the product as part of their licensing agreement.

For an industry, planned obsolescence stimulates demand by encouraging purchasers to buy sooner if they still want a functioning product. Built-in obsolescence is used in many different products. There is, however, the potential backlash of consumers who learn that the manufacturer invested money to make the product obsolete faster; such consumers might turn to a producer (if any exists) that offers a more durable alternative.

Estimates of planned obsolescence can influence a company's decisions about product engineering. Therefore the company can use the least expensive components that satisfy product lifetime projections. Such decisions are part of a broader discipline known as value engineering.

Quoted from rampage

Actually, the fact of the matter is that if you had listened to what was overwhelming evidence that it was not a good idea to have this at the 4 Corners, as was stated by the residents who were concerned for their way of life and that of their families and changed from being a stick in the mud, then I would have actually given you credit.  The fact of the matter is you stuck to your guns, probably due to the fact that you didn't want to look like a fool solely on this little corner of the web, and in that, in real life, you look more rediculous.  You could have actually looked like you had some common sense, but you didn't.  

Start using some common sense and paying attention to what's actually going on and maybe you'll figure it out and see that opinions can change.  I have opinions that have changed over time, and I will admit to being wrong.  Can you?  

Show us proof.  Either show you have a brain and can use it, or show us that your appointment to this board was solely a political favor in both directions, giving you power, and showing that you'll hand it right back to those that put you in the position by not making a decision on your own.  You're supposed to be doing what is good for the RESIDENTS and for the town by listening to facts.  Do your job.  

By the way, figure out what type of government we live under yet?

I want to have respect.  Just show me something worthy of it.  So far, you have shown absolutely 0.