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DemocraticVoiceOfReason
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Why can't I compare the Stockade to 70 year old homes? I think the other posters will be able to follow my logic, even if you can't. All  historic buildings were once 70 years old, BTW.


but not all 70 year old buildings are historic ............ old does not automatically mean that it is worthy of historic preservation

and there is no LOGICAL comparison between the oldest settled area of the City of Schenectady and the corner that we are talking about

I would even argue that there are some buildings in the Stockade that are out of place --- some are probably70 years old or so (such as the old Barney's warehouse that was converted into apartments (looks like a travesty given the historic nature of the neighborhood) --- and some are newer  such as the Burger King building.


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It is obvious that all rotterdamians and folks who drive through rotterdam think that something should be done about the eye sore at the 4 corners. Everyone should not take the first offer that comes down the pike without careful consideration of the negative effects....if any.

A cvs on that corner would not be the worse thing to land at that location. However, the massive size is clearly not a fit for that area. Folks who work at that rite aid have admitted themselves that the store could have been made smaller as well as their parking lot.

cvs should be asked to go back to the drawing board and come back with one that is scaled down significantly.


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A 70 YEAR HOME IS A 70 YEAR HOME...regardless of it's PERCEIVED historical 'virtual value'......

A BIG BOX DRUG STORE....is just that crap all over again,,there IS NO COMPETITION

THIS TOWN LACKS CLASS AND STYLE....oh, wait....the class and style of Rotterdam is..."ok boys, here comes some full barrels now, we better get 'em lined up to collect"....see, no class,,,just cheap conveyor belts.....


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I spoke with the assistant manager at RiteAid today - their store is approximately 12,800 square feet - only 500 sq feet smaller than this one.

Just sayin.
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I spoke with the assistant manager at RiteAid today - their store is approximately 12,800 square feet - only 500 sq feet smaller than this one.

Just sayin.


just what I thought.....CRAP AGAIN....ooooo the style patina and class....it's just oooooozing from the store front.......yay, happy happy joy joy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! time to push the RED BUTTON


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I spoke with the assistant manager at RiteAid today - their store is approximately 12,800 square feet - only 500 sq feet smaller than this one.

Just sayin.


the point is that even the rite aid folks have stated several times that the building is too big. Much wasted floor space and too large of a parking lot. the parking lot was oversized to accommodate the drive thru pharmacy window that does not get the traffic that they anticipated. these issues need to be taken into consideration and addressed accordingly.

And although the property owner has the right to sell to whomever will buy it, and although cvs has the right to build and compete with it's competition, one still can not be so naive as to disregard the impact on the surrounding area and town in general.

Pros and cons need to be discussed and heard and considered.



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the point is that even the rite aid folks have stated several times that the building is too big. Much wasted floor space and too large of a parking lot. the parking lot was oversized to accommodate the drive thru pharmacy window that does not get the traffic that they anticipated. these issues need to be taken into consideration and addressed accordingly.

And although the property owner has the right to sell to whomever will buy it, and although cvs has the right to build and compete with it's competition, one still can not be so naive as to disregard the impact on the surrounding area and town in general.

Pros and cons need to be discussed and heard and considered.





Ya, I agree. I'd be concerned about the entrance/egress that does NOT exist on Guilderland - along with the two exits on Lawndale. I can see the concerns about traffic, but there's already significant traffic to town hall (which, sometimes, especially at tax time) has more cars than either pharmacy just in their parking lot.  I'm sure there's a number of elderly drivers, some of which might very well be good drivers, but I've seen some get confused over the divided street.

Ya, there's issues to be addressed, but I think they'll come up with an amicable solution to please everyone.
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My point is that 70 year old buildings do not necessarily need to be replaced because they are old. DVOR/Gertie/SB lectures me as to what logic is, andhe has online disagreements with himself in a pathetic attempt to fool people?
Don't try to impress me or anyone else with your displays of "intellect", DVOR/Gertie/SB. You aren't all that swift on the uptake, to put it mildly. I am not awed by your brilliance. Okay, let's hear some name-calling. You aren't even good at that.
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My point is that 70 year old buildings do not necessarily need to be replaced because they are old. DVOR/Gertie/SB lectures me as to what logic is, andhe has online disagreements with himself in a pathetic attempt to fool people?
Don't try to impress me or anyone else with your displays of "intellect", DVOR/Gertie/SB. You aren't all that swift on the uptake, to put it mildly. I am not awed by your brilliance. Okay, let's hear some name-calling. You aren't even good at that.


No matter how many times you and your ilk repeat the lie -- I am NOT Gravel Gertie nor am I Smoking Bananas.  

As to the point --- you originally suggested that those 70 year old buildings were as important historically as those in the Stockade and the GE Plot.   YOU were the one who responded with insults leevled at me personally questioning my intelligence and competence .. when I disagreed.  The fact is that your argument was logically flawed --- that is not name-calling.    If you could show proof that those buildings had some historical significance -- then maybe you could prove your point.  You have not produced such evidence ..and insistedon going on the personal attack again.

I am not awed by you -- intelligence or otherwise -- I have no desire to ever meet you or to engage in any further discussions with you.   Have a nice life.


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insults leevled at me personally questioning my intelligence and competence ..


We all do ... along with your commitment to the job you're appointed to do, ability to do the job you're paid for and the amount of a$$ kissing you do to the handlers of your party.
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That isn't what I originally suggested, DVOR/Gertie. It is what you inferred, because you could not understand my point. It was actually a form of algebraic equation, or could be expressed as such, but you don't understand such reasoning, it was over your head. I guess I've been around engineers and scientists too long. Let's start with the name calling again. You are so tiresome.
Anyway, I hope that Rotterdamians don't end up settling for an eyesore. As I've said, esthetics vs. commerce is a false choice. CVS is capable of puttingin reasonable stores when they have to, and it doesn't really make that much difference to the bottom line of a giant corporation if a community demands a better looking site. I think the store at Chrysler Avenue has an industrial look to it, and I really don't know why they did it that way. IMO the site across from there with the sheds is better as far as something you have to look at frequently, because even though it's basically an empty lot the sheds are pretty. Too much asphalt /cheap fence is okay in an industrial zone, but Rotterdam is a "nice place to live" and should reflect that in its commercial areas, IMO.
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The Mohawk River offers some marvelous swimming opportunities this time of year -- for Nattering Naybob of Negativity and Horses a%%es such as yourself..... Just be sure to carry a few bricks stuffed into your shorts -- when and "if" you take me up on my suggestion --- Madame x (Kelly!)..
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Notice how Gravel Gertie responds for DVOR? I have pointed out that he resorts to name calling when he doesn't have any argument, so he does the name calling under his other identity. That should throw us off, DVOR. Ha ha ha.
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We all do ... along with your commitment to the job you're appointed to do, ability to do the job you're paid for and the amount of a$$ kissing you do to the handlers of your party.


You are a poor representative of the group you claim to belong to.  You simply refuse to engage in intelligent debate or conversation.


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Personally, I think the store on Chrysler Avenue is a lot better looking than a number of other commercial buildings.  

One of the nicer commercial buildings is the Stewart's on Western Avenue in Albany adjacent to the Harriman Office Campus --- the white clapboard siding  and other architectural features make it blend into the neighborhood around it.   It is a HUGE improvement on the institutional brick appearance of most of the other stores in that chain.

Villages like Manchester in Vermont have required new buildings to blend into the neo-colonial architecture of the village.  There is no reason why Rotterdam could not implement similar guidelines and requirements.  


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