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marymagdelene1234
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Not a joking matter Mary.  Kelly has a history of violence.  Anyone who smacks around their own mother has issues.  It is well documented that her anger issues have often got the best of her.  Not afraid but aware.....


Gee Tony it sounds like you know her better than I do.....however; she scares you much more than she scares me!
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Granny slamming?


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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What it sounds like MM is a threat!!!  She gonna burn down my house or something like that???     I better call Smokey the Bear to put it out eh???


NAH....Raucci


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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senders your back!!!!!


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I've said it before and I'll say it again. KR may not be the most conventional person, but knows more about the system then anyone else. As far as being angry......it's a 'just anger'. I have heard many many times that she is good hearted and would do anything for anyone if asked. And I'm sure that she would never leave someone cause they were sick. It's just not her.

The girl knows her stuff and ya can't take that away from her.

Putting that aside........it sounds like rotterdam will be having another heluva town board meeting again!! pass the popcorn!


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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on the delayed sewer dist vote

next D&H will get a big county check to allow sewer and water right of ways

gradual slope, nice vibration to keep things flowing and sewers all the way to princetown, two towns for the price on one


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Gee Tony it sounds like you know her better than I do.....however; she scares you much more than she scares me!


Oh....is tj hooker rotterdam's ASSessor now?


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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The meeting was a barn burner
2.5+hrs long


Police personel present durring the meeting to protect us


45 min on personel

Where we heard FDG say
"that person you are talking about is sitting in the corner doing nothing"
To which Nicki replies -" do not put words in my mouth"

the public hearings were uneventful

Followed by Bill Cooke and FDG grandstanding at public comment on the upcoming budget and the 2 percent tax cap

We are gonna cut services

The million dollars spent by the highway on lawn and leaf pickup

Health insurance costs are way up last year

FDG on the budget "I know we can cure that problem"

Have to depart for work out of town at 5am  the next two days  so the full notes will not be up til this sat noon

Special meeting for aug 29th



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Quoted from TippyCanoe
The meeting was a barn burner


LOL!  Are they finally going to torch the blight in the town?

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About 20 present

Pastor tony - honors 30 men lost over seas

Supervisors report
I have nothing to report

Public comment on personnel resolutions
Mr malizanski - 231.11 to increase the salary for the town clerk - we would like to see her efforts rewarded

231.11 Increase the salary of Michelle Gannon of Rotterdam, New York as the acting Town
Clerk, full-time, with full employee benefits, to the Town Clerk salary of $50,350.00,
retroactive from August 1, 2011 through December 31, 2011.Michele reads her resolution
Bob - before we move forward on 232.11 - I have suggestion - as this position was cut
FDG - 6000 saved by Eunice resigning and judge Litz has a way to move the cash

Bob - there is 17,000 left on the former town clerks line and the registrar of vital stats
12k to take care of Ms Askew’s $$$

Nicki - let's go with the original plan
We had Ms Askew come back as another employee at the courts has to leave for medical reasons
Take an existing town employee Cindy Dumar - we would not have to spend an extra cent
Ms Askew - does a great job

Wayne - spoke with comptroller - the issue is with retirement
The comptroller could get the 6K to cover the rest of the year
This is vacation season and anyone sent there would struggle

Nicki - we need to save every penny we can move the DPW employee
FDG -What is this $19,0000
Does she get 17000???
She will be getting $6000 more not $19000
As far as the judge is concerned things run well over there
They pay their own pay if you take a look at the tickets – this is the only dept that makes money

Nicki - this is a move of a salary from one dept to another
Wayne - this discussion should have happen at the agenda meeting
Bob - just for clarification - Michele will get the remaining  salary in the town clerks line?
Vote on the resolution - All yes

Amend Resolution N0.167.11 adopted on April 27, 2011 to reinstate Nancie Askew of
Rotterdam, New York to the position of Senior Typist, temporary full-time, with no
employee benefits at an hourly rate of $17.95 per hour to reflect the end date of
December 31, 2011.
Discussion continues from last resolution on this subject -
Matt I will only vote if we do not exceed the justice budget
Bob - the 6000 is only half the amount
Wayne - the difference between and working every day is 6000. - they have enough to get her thru November
Nicki -   We are willing to beg borrow and steal to spend 6000
Matt -  the smart thing to do would be to move the employee and keep Ms Askew on and train the employee
Nicki -It is crazy to spend this money
Bob - are we having a special meeting on aug 24th
Nicki -  I not happy spending another penny
Frank - excuse me !!!
Wayne - we have to pay her to aug 24th
Nicki - do what we originally planed
Bob the issue is the only person who can make the move is the supervisor
Nicki - what would we have done if the person did not get sick
Bob- the sick person went out on unpaid sick leave - thus we had the cash
I want to see budget lines
Fdg - let them have the girl to the 24th, The judge said the agreement was for the end of the year

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RPD Sargent walks in  - We now have police protection
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Matt - what changes in 4months - we will be in the same position
Bob - we have a full time position that needs to be budgeted
We won't see that until the end of September

Nicki - we had a plan in last November
Why are we fighting
FDG - that person you are talking about is sitting in the corner doing nothing
Nicki - do not put words in my mouth
FDG -You spent 100,000 on ALS money you didn't have
Michele - cut off by the supervisor
Bob - amend this resolution to reflect aug 24 cutoff date and have the judges come in and speak to us on the 24th
Motion to amend
Bob - yes
Nicki - no
Martin - yes
Wayne - yes
Fdg – yes
Amend Resolution No. 17.11 adopted on January 1, 2011 to appoint John Macejka, Jr.
as Part-Time Assessor for the Town of Rotterdam, effective January 1, 2011, with no
employee benefits to reflect the term of his appointment to conclude September 30,
2013.
Long delay for a second

????? - I do not want to commit to  2013 as a part time position. This was to be for a year and then we will review this issue  Let's table this until aug 24th

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Nicki - this was supposed to be a one year trial

wayne - I was on the board about 1hr when I voted on this
I have no objection
I have a problem with our attorneys they did not supply the whole law to me

Nicki - this has nothing to do with the employee it has to do with the position, The issue is the info given to us was wrong
Now we have a part-time possessor,  the law states the part time assessor is to 2013

Fdg - he is part time to save money
Nobody is complaining. - he doing a good job
Nicki – this  has nothing to with the person
Attoney - the law says for the balance of the term
Fdg - we can't all be talking at once
Table this resolution. -
Matt include words to keep our options open

234.11 Accept the resignation from Sara Kate Smith as full-time Dispatcher with the
Rotterdam Police Department, effective August 8, 2011
All yes

235.11 Upon the recommendation of the Chief of Police, appoint Sara Kate Smith of
Rotterdam, New York, to the position of Dispatcher, part-time, with no employee
benefits, at an hourly rate of $12.00, effective August 9, 2011
Nicki - I asked why she is going from full to part time -
I would like to add there will not be another position open
All yes


Public hearings
A Request by Theresa Nowicki to allow the conversion of the former 4,072 square foot
First Methodist Church into an antique shop and offices on a 29,983 square foot parcel
of property located in the Aquifer Overlay Zone located at 1234 Main Street in
Rotterdam Junction, New York.
No one speaks

B Consider the Petition and Map, Plan and Report duly filed by William Larned and
Sons, Inc. and Maria Esposito as property owners pursuant to NYS Town Law Article
12 for creation of a new sewer district to be located in the Town of Rotterdam to be
comprised solely of properties known as SBL #48.09-2-9, SBL #48.09-2-10 and SBL
#48-4-4.11 in the vicinity of North Thompson Street and Burdeck Street. The
maximum amount to be expended by the Town for the new district is 0 dollars ($0.00).
Andy brick - 0 dollars
This plan covers the old Republician club and merkins pit
We are in discussing with the town to add other properties so we do the right thing If the district is to be expanded
Bob - can we extend the public hearing to the 24th
Nicki can we change the special meeting and my vacation is paid for
We need. 7 days for next week but if you don't repeal the critical impact law
Bob - did the planning commission.  
Mr brick. - 7-0 - repeal the critical impact

Back to the sewers

Wayne - will there be a pump station or will be gravity feed
Is there any way to encompass future growth

Donald zee - we conformed to a plan that was designed 8 years ago
Mr larnard proposed a plan that mirror the town plan
After we did this at the last minute we were told someone in the town did not like it

Mr malizinski - comment about sewer expansions. And there is a capacity limit at the waste water treatment plant
I don't know what the capacity is but you need to be mindful

Bob - the info is in the plan

Wayne - DEC needs to approve the expansion

Donald Zee - it is in our report when a project is. Reserved
In 1986 - DEC required that the town set aside. 100000 gallons a day
And there is additional excess capacity

Ron Severson - there may be a costs to the town on the flip side there is a cost to the town that is lost due to being cheap!

C To repeal, in its entirety, Article XXVIII of the Rotterdam Zoning Code (Sections 270-
220 through 270-224) entitled “Critical Impact Uses and Critical Impact Permits”.

Donald Zee
Public hearing to follow if the critical impact law is not repealed
I know the town has never used it for
Rail-ex, Golub, Long pond
And no one used the law
And I'm concerned as to who is the consultant is
If you do not pass the repeal please put me on the agenda for the public hearing for the critical impact

Ron severson - the resolution should be labeled "let's stop walmart" - it was bad for our town then - please repeal the critical impact law

Mr malazinski - had this legislation not been in place but it prevent a non conforming use and it did serve a useful function for the town

Andy brick – Peter C(town planner) express a concern as to where in the SEQRA process the critical impact goes
Public Comment on agenda items
Jacki obien - President - of the rotterdam softball
On the $3400 - we were told it was approved and went ahead with the repair

Motion to amend 233 to the 29th



236.11 Amend Resolution No. 224.11 adopted on July 13, 2011 to adopt standard work day
for appointed officials for the purpose of determining days worked reportable to the
New York State and Local Employees’ Retirement System to reflect the proper end
date of John Macejka, Jr. as September 30, 2013 and reflect the Days/Month as N/A.
tabled
Bob - I hope that section 2 is fixed by the 29th

237.11 Allowance for Theresa Nowicki to convert a former 4,072 square foot Methodist
Church into an antique shop and offices on a 29,983 square foot parcel of property
located in the Aquifer Overlay Zone located at 1234 Main Street in Rotterdam
Junction, New York.
passed

238.11 The Town Board of the Town of Rotterdam hereby authorizes the appropriation of
Park Land Fees in the amount of $3,400.00 and hereby modifies the General Fund
Budget by increasing Estimated Revenues (A510) and the revenue account entitled
“Parkland Fees” (A2001.200100) by $3,400.00, and increasing Appropriations (A960)
and the subsidiary account entitled “Parks Improvements” (A7110.4153 by $3,400.00).
discussion that this is in a protected acct - ???
Passed

239.11 A resolution, subject to permissive referendum, authorizing the conveyance of a parcel
of land consisting of .02 acres on Wedgewood Avenue to Schworm Enterprises Inc. in
consideration of the sum of $500.00.
- passed

CONSENT ITEMS:
Res. No
240.11 Authorize gasoline expenditures from April 1, 2011 through and including June 30,
2011 to be transferred into various accounts.
241.11 Accept Town Clerk’s Report for the month of July 2011.
242.11 Budget transfers by the Town Comptroller to various accounts.
- passed

Motion to amend resolution 232 to the 29th
4 yes
Nicki - no
Special meeting - 29th of august at 5pm

Matt’s Senior Moment
55 alive oct 17,18
12/14 per person
The brass rail is open

Community fun day - by Ron Severson
Success
Fdg won a tophat and an eggplant
100 attended
We raised $$$ for the town parks
I would thank
Pac 357
Opportunities’ for youth
FDG - Ron you did a great job

Bob - County leg meeting - where are we on central dispatch -we have to get ready for our budget if glenville does not participate - we passed a resolution but no agreement it is not signed



Wayne
We lost a few friend this last month
Joe dominelli
Mike kirvin
Condolences to their family’s

Public comment
Bill Cooke - I have been reading the property tax cap – where do we stand on next years budget
FDG -
1.7million will only work if we cut services
I will meet with the head of departments and see where we are
Our salt money is all gone
You don't order your in the middle of winter  - I said to rick folwer

more than 3/4 of the gasoline budget is gone
police used 80%
Highway is the same
Something has to go
Have you looked at revenue
1.3million in the fund balance
We need 1.6 to survive
Police pension at 256,000 to and the chief wants to see it at 300,000
1percent raise is 100,000
We need 360,000 for health insurance as it is up up
Wayne -Can a board member see the finances
Has shared service entered discussions
HAMBERG ST reconstruction is moved out 2years
Bob - nothing says the 5 towns can bid out legal services
Wayne - have we talked to the county about shared services - I believe the county should be involved
FDG - Anything that is petroleum based is at issue
Leaf and brush pick up is costing us  - 1million


FDH -"I know we can cure that problem"
On the budget

9:30 out


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MK was not TJ Hooker's biggest fan, I know that.

Thanks for the update but is TJ Hooker really pastor Tony? Is he a minister now or does he just get to stand up and read prayers?


"While Foreign Terrorists were plotting to murder and maim using homemade bombs in Boston, Democrap officials in Washington DC, Albany and here were busy watching ME and other law abiding American Citizens who are gun owners and taxpayers, in an effort to blame the nation's lack of security on US so that they could have a political scapegoat."
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I thought that is what all of this micromanaging "cross-training" was for, so people could be moved from
department to department without interruption.  So now we really see that this was not "cross-training" but more
of an ego trip.  Good work Hitler and Napoleon....
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Why are they planning on having a special meeting on a Monday at 5 PM?  Wouldn't this be something that should at least be on the same day of the week as normal meetings?  Also, how many people from the public can make it to a meeting at that time, especially if they actually have to work to pay the taxes in this town?  And if the Town Board meeting is going to be at the time when they normally have the meeting to set an agenda for said meeting, when will the meeting to actually set the agenda be?


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it is all about "me"

as in who is not:

at the track
going to wildwood
planning where their signs will go

having a baby  -oops cant use that one   -  congrats Chris and family!


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Quoted from TippyCanoe
it is all about "me"

as in who is not:

at the track
going to wildwood
planning where their signs will go

having a baby  -oops cant use that one   -  congrats Chris and family!


like I've said 100 x's before....these folks aren't made/groomed in a vacuum......


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


STOP BEING GOOD DEMOCRATS---STOP BEING GOOD REPUBLICANS--START BEING GOOD AMERICANS

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