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CICERO
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Cicero plays with numbers to try to prove a point but of course he misses by a mile.


Yes, I like playing fun with statistics like you.  "Obama death threats UP 400%!!"  That is your proof that there is a right wing racist movement threatening America.  But when you look at the total number of threats versus the total population(and that's only the American population. Since he is a world leader, these calls could include foreign calls) 400% sounds like a huge number until you put the number in perspective with the population, you realize that the death threats to Bush and Obama it is statistically inconsequential.  But, it is fun to play with statistics when you are trying to make your point.

The DHS released that report in 2009.  It has been two years, have they released a follow up report measuring the accuracy of the report?  Has anything they predicted have a substantial increase to prove their findings?  Or did they just float that out there so lefties can use it indefinitely to serve as proof for their anti conservative rhetoric?


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YUP, just ".0000001% of the U.S. population" hardly worth bothering... If Cicero had 300030 death threats a day on his life...
Well...


That's 30 death threats per day.


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That's 30 death threats per day.


All of them are followed up on here in the states by the SS, many of them end up being little punk kids showing off on the internet.



"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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OK... These Brave posters... If 30 or even 20 or even10 people called your home a day threatening to kill you, your kids, your family, you'd be OK with it Right???  Two little daughters, a wife that travels in public often as well as your daily schedule of both private and public appearances.

Suppose only 1 or 2 of these a day actually were valid... 1 or 2 valid threats on your life a day.  No Problem.

Suppose in your lifetime you remember 2 of these attempts being successful... still no worries Right?

Suppose there were groups offering these killers huge sums of money to kill you... You Don't Care, of course.

Suppose just one percent of them are successful... Just one half of one percent of the 30 a day are successful. Not a big risk Right???

You'd be dead with in a year.

   If we were discussing 30 attempts a day on the life of GWB, or Ron Paul, or yourself or any one else, maybe you'd care.   But Obama??? No Problem!


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philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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If we were discussing 30 attempts a day on the life of GWB, or Ron Paul, or yourself or any one else, maybe you'd care.   But Obama??? No Problem!


Did you know how many time GWB received death treats prior to knowing Obama's was up 400% in comparison?  Of course not. How about the number of death threats and assassination attempts against other prior presidents?   Based on the numbers in the article, Bush received 8 death threats a day(or 3000 divided by 365).  It is part of the job.  They are statistically insignificant numbers, especially when trying to used them as proof of a huge right wing racist terror problem in America.  


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Justice Department investigating death threats against Republican senators, representatives - Madison Wisconsin

Seventeen Republican Senators in addition to Republican Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald received the email threat that stated they should put their "things in order because you will be killed and your families also will be killed."

The email, which in the subject said "Atten: Death threat!!!! Bomb!!!!," was sent at 9:18 p.m. Wednesday, after the Senate, with Democrats absent, voted to eliminate most collective bargaining provisions for most public workers.

In addition, all of the Assembly Republicans, including Speaker Jeff Fitzgerald, received an email death threat about 10:30 Wednesday night, said John Jagler, a spokesman for Jeff Fitzgerald. That email stated "Vote no and save your life."

Jagler said the threat talked about shooting the representative and planting bombs in places he frequented.


http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/117738098.html


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It must be those right wing radicals again doing this, the peaceful left would never hurt a fly, just ask them.
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It must be those right wing radicals again doing this, the peaceful left would never hurt a fly, just ask them.


Shadow, if you read the text, you'd see that the Left does have a domestic terrorist issue also.  In the 70's and 80's it was a similar problem to todays Right Wing Terrorists.  Black Panthers, Weather Underground etc.
The FBI managed to infiltrate and eliminate the vast majority of the threat. (as stated in the Homeland Security Text)

Today, the Right Wingers are the threat... a real threat with real people being killed.  Many of the Anti Govt Militia groups are now being infiltrated by FBI informants to gather more information about these groups.  It's a slow process and the FBI recognizes that the Right Wing Terrorist threat is real.

"The left never hurt a fly"... hardly. Make a joke about it if you want, but that doesn't lessen the threat to this country's citizens.



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Everything with you is a radical groups be it left or right but you never accept the fact that there are just plain old nut jobs that have been around this country forever committing horrific acts. We have had mass murderers throughout our history and they will continue to plague us. The joke is that DHS singled out right wing groups, returning soldiers, Ron Paul supporters, and anyone with a bumper that was against Obama as soon as Obama was elected and labeled them potential terrorist groups and I find it very strange that the left was never mentioned in that report.
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The joke is that DHS singled out right wing groups, returning soldiers, Ron Paul supporters, and anyone with a bumper that was against Obama as soon as Obama was elected and labeled them potential terrorist groups and I find it very strange that the left was never mentioned in that report.


It wasn't mentioned in the report Shadow, because it isn't true.  



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Is that your opinion or is it a fact that there are no radical left groups that would like to destroy the USA. I know an awful lot of left wing groups that want to destroy capitalism, create a socialist utopia provided by government, and some want a communist form of government and openly support a violent revolution to obtain their goals. Van Jones is the head of one of them.
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Is that your opinion or is it a fact that there are no radical left groups that would like to destroy the USA. I know an awful lot of left wing groups that want to destroy capitalism, create a socialist utopia provided by government, and some want a communist form of government and openly support a violent revolution to obtain their goals. Van Jones is the head of one of them.


Shadow... read the report.  My opinion is just that... my opinion.

The report was put together by experts in this field.  The FBI is in the business of finding and eliminating this threat... they've been doing it for a long time and doing it very well.

THE REPORT STATES THAT THERE ARE BOTH RIGHT AND LEFT WING TERRORIST GROUPS... (it's in the report, but you seem unable to comprehend it)
The report states that much of the Left wing terrorist groups have been largely neutralized... (not eliminated) while the Right Wing Terrorist groups are on the upswing, growing and increasing in actual terrorist acts being attempted and carried out.

If you'd only read the report I could stop typing!!!!!!!!!    


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