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Box A Rox
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If cheap power and water were all that is holding back NYC or Long Island from succeeding, then those terms could be negotiated... water from the Colorado River feeds hundreds of communities in several states... NY State gets some of it's power from Canada.

NYC could do just fine with out upstate... the issue is who will pay the bills when Wall Street no longer pays income tax to the new state of UPSTATE?  The economy of NYC is larger than the entire economy of many countries... If NYC splits from the rest of the state, both parties will suffer.


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Quoted from Box A Rox
If cheap power and water were all that is holding back NYC or Long Island from succeeding, then those terms could be negotiated... water from the Colorado River feeds hundreds of communities in several states... NY State gets some of it's power from Canada.

NYC could do just fine with out upstate... the issue is who will pay the bills when Wall Street no longer pays income tax to the new state of UPSTATE?  The economy of NYC is larger than the entire economy of many countries... If NYC splits from the rest of the state, both parties will suffer.


NYC's water supply comes from upstate New York.

A good deal of its power comes from upstate sources or travels across upstate on transmission line.  And there has been an ongoing debate about upgrading those transmission lines upstate to bring power downstate.

The Colorado River supplies water to many western states (has since the end of WW2) but pretty soon will NOT be able to supply enough to meet the demand.    Unless there is a significant breakthrough on the water issue -- the Southwestern US will pretty much reach "peak water" and its boom days will be over.

Wall Street provides significant revenue to the state .. but NYC does depend on state aid to a greater degree than any other municipality in the state .. and has a tremendous burden when it comes to providing social services and other governmental services.

I do NOT forsee any scenario which would make it desirable for NYC and/or Long Island to become its own state ... such talk is merely a ill thought out pipe dream.


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