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All his legislation isn't passed thru both houses yet and he's also left a few loopholes in his CAP bill to make the teachers union happy.
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The median U.S. property tax paid is $1,917. In New York , it's $3,755 – 96 percent higher than the national average
As a percentage of personal income, New York has the highest local taxes in the nation – 79 percent above the national average
From 1998 to 2008, property tax levies in New York grew by more than 73 percent – more than twice the rate of inflation during that span
Companies pay five times more in property taxes than they do in corporate taxes
Meanwhile, New York – especially Upstate New York – continues to hemorrhage population and jobs at a greater rate than the national average
The property tax being capped at 2% when we already pay 96% higher tax than everyone else is not what I call a good deal, how about lowering the tax to equal what the rest of the country pays.     http://www.governor.ny.gov/press/062411majorlegislation
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All his legislation isn't passed thru both houses yet and he's also left a few loopholes in his CAP bill to make the teachers union happy.


AH -- so now you correct yourself --- he hasn't gotten ALL of what he wanted passed ..  HOWEVER you have to admit that he has gotten quite a number of items passed.

As for the "loopholes" in the tax cap -- he vetoed the big loophole that would have let school districts sell bond s (for certain items) to raise spending over the 2% cap ----
and if any loopholes are left that favor the teachers unions -- just remember .. we at least have a tax cap .. his opponent for governor wouldn't have been able to get any tax cap legislation passed at all.


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The cap means nothing when NYS is already paying 96% higher taxes than the average in the country. All it means is that the tax will rise by 2% every year forever. Where's the real tax relief that Cuomo promised?
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The cap means nothing when NYS is already paying 96% higher taxes than the average in the country. All it means is that the tax will rise by 2% every year forever. Where's the real tax relief that Cuomo promised?


Actually it is the rate of inflation up to 2% ....  and a cap is the first step towards relief ----   the next thing is ending all of those  unfunded state mandates that   Hugh Farley and his colleagues placed on the backs of the municipal and county governments.


...and also throwing Hugh Farley out of office ..once and for all.


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The cap means nothing when NYS is already paying 96% higher taxes than the average in the country. All it means is that the tax will rise by 2% every year forever. Where's the real tax relief that Cuomo promised?


Actually it is the rate of inflation up to 2% ....  and a cap is the first step towards relief ----   the next thing is ending all of those  unfunded state mandates that   Hugh Farley and his colleagues placed on the backs of the municipal and county governments.


...and also throwing Hugh Farley out of office ..once and for all.


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Actually it is the rate of inflation up to 2% ....  and a cap is the first step towards relief ----   the next thing is ending all of those  unfunded state mandates that   Hugh Farley and his colleagues placed on the backs of the municipal and county governments.


...and also throwing Hugh Farley out of office ..once and for all.


And that would go for the one that sat exactly opposite him for the longest part of his tenure (Assemblyman, now Congressman Paul Tonko).


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And that would go for the one that sat exactly opposite him for the longest part of his tenure (Assemblyman, now Congressman Paul Tonko).


Hugh Farley wielded a lot of power in the State Senate -- chair of the Banking & Finance Committee .. and one of the most senior Republicans -- I believe he was Deputy Majority Whip or something like that.

The fact is that Hugh Farley has done 10,000 times more for his rich contributors in Saratoga County and Wall Street than he ever did for us folks in Schenectady County.

Oh -- and Tonko did not sit directly opposite Farley -- they were in different chambers altogether -- and Paul Tonko has done a helluva lot more for Schenectady County than Farley ever did.


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and Paul Tonko has done a helluva lot more for Schenectady County than Farley ever did.


Yup....Taxin Tonko didn't get that name for nothin'!! Has he ever held a 'real' job? Has he ever even been 'married'? All taxin tonko does is go around seeing how much of the taxpayers money he can grab!! Now that is something to be proud of!!!!!! Taxin Tonko is a major reason for the high taxes in nys!! Good job tonko!!



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Yup....Taxin Tonko didn't get that name for nothin'!! Has he ever held a 'real' job? Has he ever even been 'married'? All taxin tonko does is go around seeing how much of the taxpayers money he can grab!! Now that is something to be proud of!!!!!! Taxin Tonko is a major reason for the high taxes in nys!! Good job tonko!!



It takes  a MAJORITY vote in both houses to pass a tax increase or approve any spending -- one assemblyman from Upstate is  NOT the major reason for ANYTHING that happens in Albany.



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It takes  a MAJORITY vote in both houses to pass a tax increase or approve any spending -- one assemblyman from Upstate is  NOT the major reason for ANYTHING that happens in Albany.



But you continue to tout the exact opposite about Senator Farley.

It takes  a MAJORITY vote in both houses to pass a tax increase or approve any spending -- one [SENATOR] from Upstate is  NOT the major reason for ANYTHING that happens in Albany.

(By the way, when was it that Taxin' Tonko was in the majority?  Oh, that's right, the entire time he was there.)


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