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The polls will change with the wind until Election day. That's what happens when too many polls are taken in short intervals by many factions.

IMHO, UNLESS the economy tanks and gas goes to $5+ a gallon, Romney is not dynamic enough for a popular swell of support and not enough different from Obama to win.
Everyone says VP makes a difference, but it reality it doesn't matter much, it just adds more theater. McCain could have had Abe Lincoln as his VP and still would have lost.


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The George Bush establishment brand of Republicanism is dead and gone(Which Romeny is a member of).  They were dead and buried in 2008.  It may take four more years before the Ron Paul, free market, liberty Republicans wrestle away the party from the current war mongering corporatist party.  But it will happen.


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The George Bush establishment brand of Republicanism is dead and gone(Which Romeny is a member of).  They were dead and buried in 2008.  It may take four more years before the Ron Paul, free market, liberty Republicans wrestle away the party from the current war mongering corporatist party.  But it will happen.


Ron Paul will, as always, have no effect on the Republican Party.  Pretty much, they just ignore him.

If Romney loses in a disaster, the 'sane' Republicans will force a move to the center for the 2016 match up.
If they abandon the War on Women, forget about who is having sex with who and fund PP and abortion,
they may have a chance to recover to their once legitimate role in government...

If they keep finding a more radical than the last candidate plan... we will repeat the Mitt Mess until the
Republican Party moves to the American people.


The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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Ron Paul will, as always, have no effect on the Republican Party.  Pretty much, they just ignore him.

If Romney loses in a disaster, the 'sane' Republicans will force a move to the center for the 2016 match up.
If they abandon the War on Women, forget about who is having sex with who and fund PP and abortion,
they may have a chance to recover to their once legitimate role in government...

If they keep finding a more radical than the last candidate plan... we will repeat the Mitt Mess until the
Republican Party moves to the American people.


ONLY THE OLD ONES


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The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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Ron Paul will, as always, have no effect on the Republican Party.  Pretty much, they just ignore him.

If Romney loses in a disaster, the 'sane' Republicans will force a move to the center for the 2016 match up.
If they abandon the War on Women, forget about who is having sex with who and fund PP and abortion,
they may have a chance to recover to their once legitimate role in government...

If they keep finding a more radical than the last candidate plan... we will repeat the Mitt Mess until the
Republican Party moves to the American people.

The above issues are side shows to the majority of voters, and in reality don't mean squat to who wins.
The American public votes their wallet and bank account and always will. That's why GWB won in '04 despite  an unpopular war.
If unemployment was above 9% and gas was at $5 a gallon, even Newt would have a fair shot at beating Obama.
With the consistent news that we are coming out of the recession, even at a snails pace, the difference making voters don't want to upset the apple cart.


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Latest Presidential Polls:

04/24/2012      (Gallup)      Obama  49.0%       Romney      43.0%
                    
04/23/2012      (Rasmussen)      Obama 44.0%       Paul      39.0%                     


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Says a lot when the so called GOP front runner does worse against Obama than the guy they keep dismissing as unelectable, so if Paul is unelectable but out performs Romney against Obama what does that make Romney


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polls this polls that....the sheeple believe that some feed is better than others when in fact it's the same feed.....only a few leaders have the balls to speak a truth
that hurts but needs to be said and chewed upon by the masses.....feelgood podium pucks just keep digging our graves and removing the soul of the individual


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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Commander in Chief,  Barack Hussein Obama!



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U.S. Firms Add Jobs, but Mostly Overseas

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Thirty-five big U.S.-based multinational companies added jobs much faster than other U.S. employers in the past two years, but nearly three-fourths of those jobs were overseas, according to a Wall Street Journal analysis.

Those companies, which include Wal-Mart Stores Inc., International Paper Co., Honeywell International Inc. and United Parcel Service Inc., boosted their employment at home by 3.1%, or 113,000 jobs, between 2009 and 2011, the same rate of increase as the nation's other employers. But they also added more than 333,000 jobs in their far-flung—and faster-growing— foreign operations.

The companies included in the analysis were the largest of those ...
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By Tim Reid

Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:12pm EDT

(Reuters) - More than 1 million Americans who have taken out mortgages in the past two years now owe more on their loans than their homes are worth, and Federal Housing Administration loans that require only a tiny down payment are partly to blame.

That figure, provided to Reuters by tracking firm CoreLogic, represents about one out of 10 home loans made during that period.

It is a sobering indication the U.S. housing market remains deeply troubled, with home values still falling in many parts of the country, and raises the question of whether low-down payment loans backed by the FHA are putting another generation of buyers at risk.

As of December 2011, the latest figures available, 31 percent of the U.S. home loans that were in negative equity - in which the outstanding loan balance exceeds the value of the home - were FHA-insured mortgages, according to CoreLogic.

Many borrowers, particularly since late 2010, thought they were buying at the bottom of a housing market that had already suffered steep declines, but have been caught out by a continued fall in prices in wide swaths of America.http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/26/us-usa-housing-negative-idUSBRE83P12E20120426
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Today, Time magazine got hold of a memo written by then-CIA head Leon Panetta after he received orders from Barack Obama’s team to greenlight the bin Laden mission. Here’s the text, which summarized the situation:

Received phone call from Tom Donilon who stated that the President made a decision with regard to AC1 [Abbottabad Compound 1]. The decision is to proceed with the assault.

The timing, operational decision making and control are in Admiral McRaven’s hands. The approval is provided on the risk profile presented to the President. Any additional risks are to be brought back to the President for his consideration. The direction is to go in and get bin Laden and if he is not there, to get out. Those instructions were conveyed to Admiral McRaven at approximately 10:45 am.

This, of course, was the famed “gutsy call.” Here’s what Tom Hanks narrated in Obama’s campaign film, “The Road We’ve Traveled”:

HANKS: Intelligence reports locating Osama Bin Laden were promising, but inconclusive, and there was internal debate as to what the President should do.

VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN: We sat down in the Situation Room, the entire national security apparatus was in that room, and the President turns to every principal in the room, every secretary, “What do you recommend I do?” And they say, “Well, forty-nine percent chance he’s there, fifty-one … it’s a close call, Mr. President.” As he walked out the room, it dawned on me, he’s all alone. This is his decision. If he was wrong, his Presidency was done. Over.

Only the memo doesn’t show a gutsy call. It doesn’t show a president willing to take the blame for a mission gone wrong. It shows a CYA maneuver by the White House.

The memo puts all control in the hands of Admiral McRaven – the “timing, operational decision making and control” are all up to McRaven. So the notion that Obama and his team were walking through every stage of the operation is incorrect. The hero here was McRaven, not Obama. And had the mission gone wrong, McRaven surely would have been thrown under the bus.
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In Key Swing States... Unemployment is Down, Obama’s Chances Up


The improving economy is swinging the pendulum in President Barack Obama’s favor in the 14 states where
the presidential election will likely be decided.

Recent polls have shown Obama gaining an edge over his likely Republican challenger, Mitt Romney, in several
so-called swing states — those that are considered up for grabs.

What’s made the difference is that unemployment has dropped more sharply in several swing states than in the
nation as a whole. A resurgence in manufacturing is helping the economy — and Obama’s chances — in the
industrial Midwestern states of Ohio and Michigan.
And Arizona, Nevada and Florida, where unemployment remains high, are getting some relief from an uptick in
tourism.

Many blue-collar workers in Ohio and Michigan credit the federal bailout of General Motors and Chrysler for
saving tens of thousands of auto industry jobs.   “There’s a feeling the administration went out of its way
to protect jobs that are very important,’’ Beck said.

AP
http://articles.boston.com/2012-04-22/news/31383123_1_swing-state-unemployment-auto-industry


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Claims for unemployment benefits are stuck near 3-month high

April 26, 2012
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Christopher S. Rugaber

WASHINGTON – The number of people seeking unemployment benefits remained stuck near a three-month high last week.

The Labor Department said Thursday that weekly applications dipped 1,000 to a seasonally adjusted 388,000. It was little changed from the previous week's figure, the highest since Jan. 7.

The four-week average, a less volatile measure, rose to 381,750, also the highest in three months.

Applications jumped sharply three weeks ago, a sign that employers had stepped up layoffs and added fewer jobs. Economists said the increase might have been inflated by temporary layoffs during the spring holidays, when many school employees are laid off.

But applications haven't dropped back since then. The increase follows a report earlier this month that showed hiring slowed in March.

Weekly unemployment claims

Many economists suggested that weather might have distorted the March jobs report. A warmer winter likely pulled some hiring that normally would have occurred last month into January and February. They have noted that the economy has added an average of 212,000 jobs a month in the January-March quarter, well ahead of last year's pace.

Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke agreed Wednesday that weather has likely disrupted recent data.

The warm winter "made perhaps January and February artificially strong and March perhaps artificially a little bit weak," he said at a news conference. "I wouldn't draw too much conclusion from the March report."

The unemployment rate has fallen to 8.2% in March from 9.1% in August. Part of the drop was related to people gave up looking for work. People who are out of work but not looking for jobs aren't counted among the unemployed.

Economists note that unemployment benefit applications are lower than they were last year. The government's report next week on April employment should help clarify the jobs picture.http://www.friendsoftheuschamb.....ck-near-3-month-high
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The unemployment rate has fallen to 8.2% in March from 9.1% in August. Part of the drop was related to people gave up looking for work. People who are out of work but not looking for jobs aren't counted among the unemployed.


That means they are comfortably on government welfare...That's a winning issue for Obama.


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