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joebxr
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Maybe there is a reason why Mitt is not disclosing earlier tax filings......
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Victor Fleischer, a law professor and private equity expert at the University of Colorado, said that Romney's involvement at Bain during the years in question will remain unclear without further disclosure of tax documents.

"It's not enough to say, 'Yes, I was the owner but I wasn't involved,' " Fleischer said. "There was a legal agreement between Bain and Mitt Romney that governed their relationship. Until full understanding of that is disclosed, all we have right now is evidence that he was the owner."


http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/story/2012-07-12/mitt-romney-years-at-bain/56181660/1

So instead of BIRTH CERTIFICATE PROOF how about TX  FILINGS to put al this to rest....would think if he has nothing to hide he would gladly release the information. Makes me wonder just WHY he is not doing that. What is in those records that he doesn't want released????? We already know he's worth upwards of $250M+; we know he has trasferred assests to his wife when he ran for Governor....what don't we know that he doesn't want us to know?????


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This story agrees with the Boston Globe story about Romney's Bain involvement after 1999.



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From Obama using executive privilege for a "non-event" to Romney being secretive about his business dealings, its politics as usual... change? Nope, here's the new boss, same as the old boss.


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Even cnn is pretty much saying the post 99 Bain issue is bunk
http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/12/politics/john-king-bain/index.html?hpt=hp_c1


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It's all bullcrap!! This whole issue of showing tax returns are ALWAYS an issue duirng election time. And they all know it. It is just used for political fodder but are ALWAYS exposed!

It's all bullcrap and a deterrent. Focus on the MAIN issues here folks!!!


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Main issues are economy, jobs, and debt
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BT...isn't the business mentality of the candidate a main issue?
If his personal wealth is driven by off-shore investments and he personally is responsible for those business decisions and moving US jobs overseas....shouldn't the voting public be allowed to know that and be knowledgeable in their voting decisions?
If he indeed was in-charge and running the show when another group under Bain was a company responsible for disposal of fetuses, and he touts and uses his religious blieves as a reason for his suitability as President, shouldn't the voting public be allowed to know that for consideration in their voting decisions?

I agree, main issues are as you say, economy, jobs, debt, etc. But main issues are also the suitability of the candidate and if they are really as they appear.
IMHO


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Quoted from bumblethru
It's all bullcrap!! This whole issue of showing tax returns are ALWAYS an issue duirng election time. And they all know it. It is just used for political fodder but are ALWAYS exposed!

It's all bullcrap and a deterrent. Focus on the MAIN issues here folks!!!

This isn't about tax info...
I don't have any more knowledge than the average person on this issue... but the Boston Globe is sticking
by their Bain story...
If it's true... Romney is guilty of a felony.


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Box...to me it's not even the felony, becuase I'm sure we'd lose half the Congress if they were investigated. To me it's how hones and truthful is this guy and is he really looking out for the best interestes of middle class America. From what I have found out to date, I'm just not sure. If the Bain issue is real, then he's out in my opinion. He could end all speculation and nail Obama's team by disclosing the tax info...so why hasn't he done it. I want to see our economy pick up and grow again. My company has outsourced and moved production to a point we are a shadow of existence in the US. It's all driven by greed and richer folks getting richer....I need to know where Romney really sits before I can make a decision on him versus Obama. I'm not getting there yet, and this issue is a dark cloud.


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Quoted from Box A Rox

This isn't about tax info...
I don't have any more knowledge than the average person on this issue... but the Boston Globe is sticking
by their Bain story...
If it's true... Romney is guilty of a felony.


All the Boston Globe has is the SEC filings. The other evidence points to Romney not being involved in Bain after he left to head the Olympic Committee. Like I posted before, even CNN is saying this is much ado about nothing. But, it appears this is the Dailykos and other liberal blogs "birther' moment.


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who gives a crap...........since this entire country is being run by LAWYERS...............it will be proved or dis-proved in court!

what's everyone think they have a law degree now like the main stream media does!!!


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Don't need to be a lawyer or hire one to evaluate the facts about a candidate. Here are a few points that were printed in FORBES and have been covered in some form or another by other reporting agencies.  Don't need to be a lawyer to see there appears to be a problem...as CEO and sole owner/shareholder "after" you say you no longer were part of the decision process, I just have a hard time believing you were not consulted or directing the activities that protected your investments and compensation.  I also have a hard time with understanidng if you are sole owner why it took until 2011 to formalize a retirement package. Doesn't anyone else see how all this appears to be under-the-table type of shell game hoopla that makes you wonder if he is the right person for the job and actually a better choice than Obama? Don't misunderstand me....I have not made my decision yet...but I do want to know everything I can before I do that.

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Excerpts from FORBES article:
“…Globe found documents filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission that stated Romney was CEO and sole owner of Bain Capital as late as 2002.”
” …Romney has repeatedly claimed that he left Bain Capital in 1999. His campaign pointed the Globe to a footnote in Romney’s June 1 financial disclosure form that said “Since February 11, 1999, Mr. Romney has not had any active role with any Bain Capital entity and has not been involved in the operations of any Bain Capital entity in any way.’’ His 2007 financial disclosure form made the same claim.
But the Globe found SEC documents filed by Bain Capital after that date stating that Romney remained the firm’s “sole stockholder, chairman of the board, chief executive officer, and president.”
Moreover, a 2003 Massachusetts filing states that he still owned 100% of Bain Capital in 2002.”
“….consider Bain Capital’s 1993 $24 million investment in GST Steel, a Kansas City, Missouri steel company. During his 2002 campaign for governor, Romney’s opponent pointed out that Bain Capital had profited to the tune of $50 million – after laying off 750 workers at GST.
And Romney replied that he was no longer at Bain Capital when the layoffs happened. But the SEC filings indicate that Romney was Bain Capital’s CEO in February 2001 when GST declared bankruptcy. And Romney made the same “not there then” claim when the Obama campaign raised this example in May 2012.
If the SEC filings are accurate, that means Romney was again in a gray area when he made the claims about GST. After all, if he was CEO and sole owner of Bain Capital in 2002, he would have had a responsibility to his investors to make key decisions about its investments — like whether GST should file for bankruptcy and fire its staff.”


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Paul Begala on Mitt Romney's Problem with Bain

Begala's (an Obama Supporter) has nearly 30 years of experience advising candidates, and knows a thing
or two about managing media crises. When the Whitewater scandal hit the front pages, Begala was standing
next to Bill Clinton in Texas when Clinton called a press conference to address reporters' questions.

"That was the difference," Begala told POLITICO in an interview yesterday. "When something like this
happens, you have to respond -- and Romney won't respond. What that tells me is, there's probably
more to this. I've been doing this for 28 years, and any time a politician won't release his tax returns,
it's because he can't.
Whatever is in there is worse than the Cayman Islands and shipping jobs to China.

And like Lyndon Johnson said, 'You can't shine sh!t."


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Growing Republican Chorus Pushes Romney To Release Tax Returns

~On Thursday, Rep. Pete Sessions (R-TX), who heads all House GOP campaign efforts, told reporters
that questions about Romney’s holdings were on target, according to CNN.

“His personal finances, the way he does things, his record, are fair game,” Sessions said. While he declined
to name a specific amount of information or number of years’ worth of tax returns Romney should release,
he called the issue a “legitimate question.” Romney has only released his 2010 tax return and had said he
will release his 2011 return before the election.

~Republican Rep. Walter Jones (R-NC) flatly told CNN Thursday that Romney needed to make at least
six years’ worth of returns public — and soon.

~Former RNC Chairman Michael Steele also called on Romney to release additional returns on MSNBC
this week, reasoning that it would put Democratic attacks to rest.




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