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Ron Paul's third-quarter haul: $8 million

A Ron Paul campaign official tells POLITICO's Dan Hirschhorn that Paul will announce he raised $8 million in the third quarter.

Paul will make the announcement shortly during his appearance at the National Press Club.

He'll also note that the campaign has over 100,000 donors — five times as many as Rick Perry.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/65219.html#ixzz1Zw2uBySd



The Obama campaign raised $42.8 million on its own and the DNC took in $27.3 million, an Obama campaign official said.

The announcement follows an $86 million second quarter for Obama and the DNC, and sets up the president to outraise   by far the whole GOP field, combined, in back to back fundraising periods.


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When Paul loses the GOP nomination, this board will again blame the "Liberal Main Stream Media" instead of the  Republican Religious Fanatics in this video.


I think you are missing the mark on this one.  Ron Paul supporters won't blame anybody...Ron Paul supporters know it's not over after November 2012.  This is a long process and his supporters are young.  There is a whole other branch of the federal government that will be challenged, not to mention state governments that will begin changing. The Ron Paul supporters aren't looking for the media to fawn over Ron Paul, actually, they would even like the media to challenge him and debate him.  

Ron Paul is fracturing the religious rights monopoly on the flock.  That is why the LEADERS of the religious right are attacking Paul.  Much like Jackson and Sharpton, the leaders on the religious right can only maintain their positions of power if they continue to tell their followers they are powerless and that their "values" are under attack by an outside force.  Ron Paul has been able to infiltrate all these traditional voting blocks and at least get people to wake up from their coma and to not mindlessly follow the leaders of the traditional voting blocks.  Whether it's the religious right or the anti war, civil libertarian left, Ron Paul is creating doubt in the minds of people, and getting them to begin questioning who they THOUGHT reflected their values if they truly do reflect their values.  The anti war left libertarians are beginning to see Obama and the Democrats aren't as anti war as they advertised.  I think the same is going on with the religious right.


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The Obama campaign raised $42.8 million on its own and the DNC took in $27.3 million, an Obama campaign official said.

The announcement follows an $86 million second quarter for Obama and the DNC, and sets up the president to outraise   by far the whole GOP field, combined, in back to back fundraising periods.


I hope so,,,he's the President, he has the power.  How much of the fundraising was from defense contractors and Wall Street?  


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The Obama campaign raised $42.8 million on its own and the DNC took in $27.3 million, an Obama campaign official said.

The announcement follows an $86 million second quarter for Obama and the DNC, and sets up the president to outraise   by far the whole GOP field, combined, in back to back fundraising periods.


I'm surprised it isn't higher considering they were saying how they expected to receive over 1 billion dollars in fundraising for the campaign. CSPAN had a show about this last month, most of the callers said they wouldn't donate to him again while the ones that did were chipping in small amounts. Sad part was most of the people said their small contribution wouldn't matter any ways because of the heavy hitters donating to Obama.

Paul is still out raising Obama with active military donations and out raised all the GOP candidates combined. Looks like our troops want real change.



"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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88% of abortions are preformed in the first 12 weeks of pregnancy...  yet in this video Ron Paul  talks about an obvious late term         abortion (less than 1.5%) as if it represented a typical procedure.
  Many late term abortions (after 21+ weeks)are preformed to save the life of the mother.  Paul didn't tell us if a woman's life was       saved in his example.






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He talks of the abortion he saw because it was the only one he saw, thank goodness.

My daughter is now 16 weeks pregnant. She heard the heartbeat with doppler at 10 weeks and had her ultrasound at 11 weeks. She was so excited to see the baby moving around : )  I saw the pictures after and the baby is precious, of course small but FULLY formed.

I wrote before and don't want to write the whole thing again but my daughters first baby when we went for her first ultrasound at 11 weeks the baby had no heartbeat, it had passed around the ninth week. After testing after found out it was a little girl. All I can say is very much emotional pain and we will never forget our little sweetheart, who we never held but hold in our hearts forever.

So your graph dosen't impress me as a baby is a baby no matter how small and when someone sees there baby on ultrasound and find no heartbeat that is a loss of there child. The grief from the loss is lifelong.

If woman who choose to have an abortion could see their little one before the procedure, I reallly think anyone with any heart and conscience could not go through with it.

The woman in the case of Roe vs Wade has long been against abortions.

Dr Paul went on to deliver over 4000 babies because he knows ALL life is precious and I share his beliefs as many do. Of course not all do and that is their right.



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He talks of the abortion he saw because it was the only one he saw, thank goodness.

My daughter is now 16 weeks pregnant. She heard the heartbeat with doppler at 10 weeks and had her ultrasound at 11 weeks. She was so excited to see the baby moving around : )  I saw the pictures after and the baby is precious, of course small but FULLY formed.

I wrote before and don't want to write the whole thing again but my daughters first baby when we went for her first ultrasound at 11 weeks the baby had no heartbeat, it had passed around the ninth week. After testing after found out it was a little girl. All I can say is very much emotional pain and we will never forget our little sweetheart, who we never held but hold in our hearts forever.

So your graph dosen't impress me as a baby is a baby no matter how small and when someone sees there baby on ultrasound and find no heartbeat that is a loss of there child. The grief from the loss is lifelong.

If woman who choose to have an abortion could see their little one before the procedure, I reallly think anyone with any heart and conscience could not go through with it.

The woman in the case of Roe vs Wade has long been against abortions.

Dr Paul went on to deliver over 4000 babies because he knows ALL life is precious and I share his beliefs as many do. Of course not all do and that is their right.


Dr Paul went on to deliver over 4000 babies... BECAUSE DELIVERING BABIES MADE HIM A LOT OF MONEY$$$  No other reason.





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He talks of the abortion he saw because it was the only one he saw, thank goodness.

My daughter is now 16 weeks pregnant. She heard the heartbeat with doppler at 10 weeks and had her ultrasound at 11 weeks. She was so excited to see the baby moving around : )  I saw the pictures after and the baby is precious, of course small but FULLY formed.

I wrote before and don't want to write the whole thing again but my daughters first baby when we went for her first ultrasound at 11 weeks the baby had no heartbeat, it had passed around the ninth week. After testing after found out it was a little girl. All I can say is very much emotional pain and we will never forget our little sweetheart, who we never held but hold in our hearts forever.

So your graph dosen't impress me as a baby is a baby no matter how small and when someone sees there baby on ultrasound and find no heartbeat that is a loss of there child. The grief from the loss is lifelong.

If woman who choose to have an abortion could see their little one before the procedure, I reallly think anyone with any heart and conscience could not go through with it.The woman in the case of Roe vs Wade has long been against abortions.

Dr Paul went on to deliver over 4000 babies because he knows ALL life is precious and I share his beliefs as many do. Of course not all do and that is their right.





this is what drives society to abortion.....it's not about the sick mother losing her life.....it's the responsibility put upon a woman and children....yeah, we promote marriage(for a few centuries) and '
our society SUCKS at it....we have WIC/Welfare/foodstamps/medicaid for women and children....THAT'S THE HISTORY of these systems.....and

WE HAVE NOT COME A LONG WAY BABY......

women have the option of:

1. no sex
2. chemicals ingested to prevent pregnancy
3. chemicals sprayed in to prevent pregnancy
4. abortion

men have the option of:

1. viagra
2. condoms

I am NOT laying this at men's feet alone...but there must be something to it....Beuhler? Beuhler?



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this is what drives society to abortion.....it's not about the sick mother losing her life.....it's the responsibility put upon a woman and children....yeah, we promote marriage(for a few centuries) and '
our society SUCKS at it....we have WIC/Welfare/foodstamps/medicaid for women and children....THAT'S THE HISTORY of these systems.....and

WE HAVE NOT COME A LONG WAY BABY......

women have the option of:

1. no sex
2. chemicals ingested to prevent pregnancy
3. chemicals sprayed in to prevent pregnancy
4. abortion

men have the option of:

1. viagra
2. condoms

I am NOT laying this at men's feet alone...but there must be something to it....Beuhler? Beuhler?


Many Americans get their family planning and birth control at Planned Parenthood... Oh Yea... You're against that too.
Kind of a no win situation huh.


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never said I was against planned parenthood......let me clarify it for you...

PLANNED PARENTHOOD is an oxymoron in the name....

the root of the issue is what historically has been the norm among the sexes.....

Planned Parenthood is not a SAVIOR and yes I've been to it multiple times for different reasons most not my own....and having been in private GYN offices.....THERE IS A DIFFERENCE.....there is NO empowerment at Planned Parenthood...
it's no different than being 'treated' to WIC/Medicaid/Welfare etc.....

I could really care less about abortion and what folks do......

IT'S SYSTEMIC......family planning and birthcontrol has been happening for centuries....Planned Parenthood has just packaged something and removed the empowerment of an individual....I've seen it happen


...you are a product of your environment, your environment is a product of your priorities, your priorities are a product of you......

The replacement of morality and conscience with law produces a deadly paradox.


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Dr Paul went on to deliver over 4000 babies... BECAUSE DELIVERING BABIES MADE HIM A LOT OF MONEY$$$  No other reason.


Wow you really are clueless.


Personal life and medical career
Paul was born in Pittsburgh, the son of Howard Caspar Paul and Margaret (née Dumont) Paul. His paternal great-grandparents emigrated from Germany, and his mother was of German and Irish ancestry. As a junior at suburban Dormont High School, he was the 220-yard dash state champion. He received a B.S. degree in biology at Gettysburg College during 1957. He was a member of the fraternity Lambda Chi Alpha. After earning a Doctor of Medicine degree from the Duke University School of Medicine during 1961, Paul relocated with his wife to Michigan, where he completed his medical internship at the Henry Ford Hospital in Detroit. He then served as a flight surgeon of the United States Air Force from 1963 to 1965 and then of the United States Air National Guard from 1965 to 1968.
During 1968, Paul and his wife relocated to Texas, where he continued his medical work. Trained in obstetrics and gynaecology, Paul then began his own private practice.
Paul has been married to Carol Wells since 1957.They have five children, who were baptized Episcopalian: Ronald, Lori, Rand, Robert, and Joy. Paul's son Rand is the junior senator from the state of Kentucky. Raised a Lutheran, Paul later became a Baptist.
As a medical doctor, Ron Paul routinely lowered fees or worked for free in order to refuse to accept Medicaid or Medicare payments. As a member of Congress, he continues to refuse to sign up for the government pension that he would be entitled to in order to avoid receiving government money.

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Dr Paul went on to deliver over 4000 babies... BECAUSE DELIVERING BABIES MADE HIM A LOT OF MONEY$$$  No other reason.


Box, you're confusing that with people that work for Planned Parenthood.  BECAUSE KILLING BABIES MAKE THEM A LOT OF MONEY$$$$. No other reason.


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lets see Dr. Paul delivered 4000 babies just to make money right?

Ok take a look at this link
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/files/PPFA/fact_ppservices_2010-09-03.pdf

Abortion Services — 3 percent of services in 2008
Abortion Procedures 324,008
And for 2009
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/files/PPFA/PP_Services.pdf
Abortion Services — 3 percent of services in 2009
Abortion Procedures 332,278

Soooooo, who makes more money someone that delivers 4000 babies back in a time when health care costs were MUCH lower or over 650,000 abortions in 2 years?


Life IS precious Dr. Paul : )
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Ron Paul was a FOR PROFIT DOCTOR...

Planned Parenthood is Not For Profit.  They pay expenses and make no profit.


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