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Box A Rox
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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

John Kenneth Galbraith

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I wonder what the pioneers/Indians did when they killed,cut up and preserved their own food without a government involvement.
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Quoted from Shadow
I wonder what the pioneers/Indians did when they killed,cut up and preserved their own food without a government involvement.


What the Libs don't want you to know is that food in the market place was becoming more safer every year do to the free market, after the FDA was brought in those trends didn't change at all. The food industry knows that to become successful they must deliver a good product.


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Quoted from Shadow
I wonder what the pioneers/Indians did when they killed,cut up and preserved their own food without a government involvement.


Let me know how that works for ya Shadow.  You will be assured of the quality if you grow or raise your own food... But if you're like most Americans, you don't have the capacity or the desire to grow then slaughter all your own food... so you need to either  rely on the free market... of the US Govt, to insure the food you eat is safe.







The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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Who do you think won the Republican debate at the Reagan library?

Total of 127,248 votes

Ron Paul              50%(63,670 votes)
Mitt Romney         17.3%(21,969 votes)
Rick Perry              14.4%(18,337 votes)
Jon Huntsman      6.9%(8,774 votes)
Newt Gingrich      4.8%(6,067 votes)
Herman Cain      3.3%(4,261 votes)
Michele Bachmann      2.2%(2,832 votes)
Rick Santorum      1.1%(1,338 votes)


http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com.....t-the-reagan-library


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At the September 7 Republican debate, Ron Paul clashed with fellow Texan Rick Perry once again.

This time, things got physical.

During a commercial break, Perry walked up to Paul's podium, physically grabbed Paul's wrist, and pointed at Paul's face with his other hand (photo below from Reuters).




http://img.ibtimes.com/www/art.....bate-september-7.htm


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Who do you think won the Republican debate at the Reagan library?

Total of 127,248 votes

Ron Paul              50%(63,670 votes)
Mitt Romney         17.3%(21,969 votes)
Rick Perry              14.4%(18,337 votes)
Jon Huntsman      6.9%(8,774 votes)
Newt Gingrich      4.8%(6,067 votes)
Herman Cain      3.3%(4,261 votes)
Michele Bachmann      2.2%(2,832 votes)
Rick Santorum      1.1%(1,338 votes)


http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com.....t-the-reagan-library


WoW!  Fantastic!  Ron Paul wins again.  He not only won but he won by more votes than all the other candidates combined!!!

Um, didn't this happen after the last debate?
And didn't this prove to be the only poll that supported this view?

So, maybe if you have a well publicized campaign to get all the Ron Paul supporters to vote on this site, he will appear to win the debate, even though all other polls will show Romney or Perry to be in the lead.

(No wonder you hear so much talk about "unfair media bias" and the "lack of media coverage"  from Paul supporters.  They intentionally create false result, then complain when that bogus result is not covered in the mainstream press. )




The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
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John Kenneth Galbraith

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And didn't this prove to be the only poll that supported this view?



Nope actually Paul won hands down on almost every poll out there during the last debate. CNN took their poll down (which had thousands of votes) and gave the results of a poll where only 30 people voted in it. FOX also ignored their poll and only gave the results of a hand picked focus group.



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Nope actually Paul won hands down on almost every poll out there during the last debate. CNN took their poll down (which had thousands of votes) and gave the results of a poll where only 30 people voted in it. FOX also ignored their poll and only gave the results of a hand picked focus group.



You make my point for me.

If CNN or MSNBC or FOX, has an unscientific, just click on the box poll, where anyone can vote (in some polls they can vote several times)... the poll only measures those voters who view the polls, since the vast majority of voters will never even see the poll.
If one group, say Michelle Bachmann, organized a campaign among only her supporters to actively go to these sites and vote for Michelle, while all other candidates did not...
Michelle would be the overwhelming winner.

One Michelle supporter would call or email all other Bachmann supporters to encourage them to vote in these polls etc...
The poll would unfairly strongly support Michelle... but not because she was the overwhelming winner of all those who would have viewed the poll, but because she had the best organizing effort to subvert the poll in her favor.

We've discussed in the past how Paul supporters are the most loyal, and most energized, of all the minor candidates.  Had the DNC or the RNC put effort into the same polls, I'm sure the vote could be tipped in their favor.


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When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
Adolph Hitler
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When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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I saw a 4 black GMC suburbans (with a police escort) with Ron Paul for President signs flying down the Blue Grass Parkway in Kentucky 2 weeks ago ... not sure if the candidate or maybe his son the senator was in that motorcade.


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"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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