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A Better Rotterdam
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Damn I'm routing for Paul,,,, but I feel that our corperate masters will pick Perry I hope I'm wrong, but once big business is involved it isn't hard to push the mental midgets in whatever direction they feed them. We are gonna end up with Barack vs GW reincarnated.......
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Ron Paul supporter or not... Napolitano is a FoxSnooze hack.  
Would you accept Dan Rather as a viable VP candidate???
Would you accept Katie Couric as a viable VP candidate???
How about Rachel Maddow or Keith Olberman???

It seems the Right is owned by Fox, and Fox will determine our next GOP presidential candidate.



Well I disagree on Napolitano being a hack, I followed him long enough to know he is the real deal. Are the others viable VP candidates you asked, well that is up to the people to decide is it not? You might be right on FOX picking or hoping to pick the next GOP candidate, it is no surprise the media picks who they want to win and ignore others. Did you watch the video I put up on the last page where Stewart was ripping them apart for this very thing?



"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Damn I'm routing for Paul,,,, but I feel that our corperate masters will pick Perry I hope I'm wrong, but once big business is involved it isn't hard to push the mental midgets in whatever direction they feed them. We are gonna end up with Barack vs GW reincarnated.......


If it's Barack against GW reincarnated... Obama will win.



The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral
philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

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I agree with boxy about Napolitano. He's a 'FOXY GUY'! I'm not too crazy about him.
I would like to see Christie myself. But the vp issue is a long way off.

I also agree that perry=gwb.....they are part of the corrupt system. They ALL are.....except Paul....imho


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.”
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I've followed this story about a Right Wing Terrorists named Charles Dyer.  He's a member of the Oath Keepers and other anti-govt militias.  He's wanted by the police as a Domestic Terrorist and didn't show up for trial  of Child Molestation.

Imagine my surprise when I found this Ron Paul link defending the terrorist.
(Daily Paul)
http://www.dailypaul.com/12378.....ernment-russia-today

For more on this armed Domestic terrorist (one of his weapons was a stolen grenade launcher) see the video




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I'm not following.   Why is he considered a "terrorist"?  What has he done?  What has he been convicted of?  He’s a bail jumper not a terrorist.

How does somebody get labeled a "terrorist" without a trial?  

This word terrorist keeps on being used more and more loosely.  The word convicts before being tried.  It is a great tool to destroy political opposition.


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I'm not following.   Why is he considered a "terrorist"?  What has he done?  What has he been convicted of?  He’s a bail jumper not a terrorist.

How does somebody get labeled a "terrorist" without a trial?  

This word terrorist keeps on being used more and more loosely.  The word convicts before being tried.  It is a great tool to destroy political opposition.


Um Cicero... Charles Dwyer is a SELF PROCLAIMED DOMESTIC TERRORIST!  If he calls himself a Terrorist... I guess we should take his word for it.

AND

"A former Marine with ties to Tea Parties and militias who talked openly about using his training “to become a domestic terrorist” has been charged in separate complaints with raping a child and possessing an unregistered grenade launcher."

AND

While sheriff's deputies were at Dyer's home, they found several firearms and a Colt M-203, 40-millimeter grenade launcher, according to court documents. When they searched a national crime database, the deputies discovered that the grenade launcher was one of three stolen from a military base at Fort Irwin, California, in 2006.

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Dyer left the Marines last year after being brought up on charges of uttering "disloyal” statements, including his starring in several inflammatory YouTube videos which called for armed resistance against the U.S. government. In one video, Dyer exclaimed, "With DHS blatantly calling patriots, veterans, and constitutionalists a threat, all that I have to say is you’re damn right we're a threat. We're a threat to anyone that endangers our rights and the Constitution of this republic."

YEA CICERO... HE'S A DOMESTIC TERRORIST!

(Institute for Research & Education on Human Rights)
http://www.irehr.org/index.php.....9:news&Itemid=23



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Is this TERRORIST the type of person Ron Paul calls a 'patriot'?

So back to my original question...
Imagine my surprise when I found this Ron Paul link defending this TERRORIST.

(Daily Paul)
http://www.dailypaul.com/12378.....ernment-russia-today


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Oh a Ron Paul LINK defending this guy ?  I never heard of him before so I did a search and there are MANY links defending him so what's your point? I didn't see a quote by Dr. Paul did you?  

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=42713

http://www.iowastatedaily.com/opinion/article_b17335c8-014f-11e0-ae5b-001cc4c03286.html

Now I know alittle about this guy, he was found NOT GUILTY concerning the "grenade" launcher.

And yes Ron Paul would support his right to free speech : )
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Oh a Ron Paul LINK defending this guy ?  I never heard of him before so I did a search and there are MANY links defending him so what's your point? I didn't see a quote by Dr. Paul did you?  

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=42713


Ron Paul is considered a "crazy" by many Americans... this kind of story linked to Paul can only foster that image.

To your post:
"Government Agencies Attack an Honorable Marine and His Family"
... Dyer is anything but an "Honorable Marine".  He did serve his country honorably, but his latest anti government statements were enough for the US Marine Corps to bring him up on charges, questioning his loyalty to his oath and his country.

A baby rapist???  He fled prosecution of the charge of molesting a child.  Is that an "Honorable" man?

And lastly Dyer is a member of the "oath keepers" a group that vows to disobey orders they deem to be unconstitutional.  The Marine Corps requires to obey all 'lawful orders" and has a provision for disobeying orders that are not lawful (Constitutional).  Dyer and his Oath Keepers set themselves above the law and decide for themselves which laws are unconstitutional... I wonder if Dyer considered his stolen grenade launcher to be part of his 2nd amendment rights???

Defending this terrorist and criminal on a Ron Paul sponsored web site is just more of the reason that America looks at Paul as a wacko.  




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Right on the dailypaul website

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So according to Box if I agree with this guy here on this site then Rotterdam must be a terrorist safe haven


"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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If I create a website called the Daily Barack, all of the content on that website then directly reflects Obama and ALL of his supporters.  

I told you before, Box is a VERY good sophist.  He makes illogical argument sound logical.


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Right on the dailypaul website
So according to Box if I agree with this guy here on this site then Rotterdam must be a terrorist safe haven


I've made my point... if you go to Ron Paul sites and read about Invasions from outer space, flying saucers, the Bermuda Triangle, and Obama birth certificate... you begin to see why serious people will turn away from Ron Paul with out even hearing his views.

I don't think Ron Paul supports this Terrorist, but his website by promoting right wing terrorism, sure does.

Just wondering... is Paul a supporter of Oath Keepers???  It would seem to be in opposition to the Oath of the US President... "To protect and defend the Constitution of the United States".



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I've made my point... if you go to Ron Paul sites and read about Invasions from outer space, flying saucers, the Bermuda Triangle, and Obama birth certificate... you begin to see why serious people will turn away from Ron Paul with out even hearing his views.

I don't think Ron Paul supports this Terrorist, but his website by promoting right wing terrorism, sure does.

Just wondering... is Paul a supporter of Oath Keepers???  It would seem to be in opposition to the Oath of the US President... "To protect and defend the Constitution of the United States".



Many Oath Keepers including the founder of Oath Keepers are Paul supporters, I'm not sure if Paul is a supporter but I'm guessing he has no problem with them as long as they don't infringe on another's rights.



"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."

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Hey....Bill Ayres falls into the 'loose' category of 'terrorist'........and it got him a position in the white house....and this pres supported him...............no?


When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche


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