This group of armed trained militia is publicly saying... ~~~ "We say if the American people decide it's time for a revolution, we'll fight with you." ~~~ and you see no problem with a group that pledges to add a military compliment to any revolution AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA???
Sort of a ready made Confederate Army waiting for a political group who promise to FORCEFULLY OVERTHROW THE ELECTED GOVERNMENT OF OUR COUNTRY.
That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government
Do you know what document this is from?
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Ron Paul Wins Fox Public Poll with 83.48% for South Carolina Presidential Debates at Foxnews.com
Ron Paul 83.48% Herman Cain 14.14% no surprise here he spoke very well Tim Pawlenty 1.76% lmao Gary Johnson 1.74% He has good ideas but he really blew a chance to get his name out there Rick Santorum 1.62% Like Pawlenty I think people seen him as to much of the same old dying part of the GOP.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
The "enemy" that the Oath Keepers are planning on facing is the United States Army.
The "Oath" is to uphold the Constitution... not the Constitution that the rest of us recognize, but what they decide is meant by the Constitution.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
We are Not advocating or promoting the overthrow of any government whether local, state or national. We want our governments to return to the Constitutional Republic which the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution defined and instituted.
We are Not advocating or promoting violence towards any organization, group or person. We are determined to Honor our Oath to support and defend the Constitution.
We are not advocating or promoting the removal of any person from his or her elected office. We want all elected persons to live up to their Oath to "support and defend the Constitution" as it is written or to leave of their own volition.
We are not advocating or promoting that anyone in the Judicial Branch be removed or replaced. We want the Justices in the Judicial Branch to follow the Constitution as written without interpretation.
We are not advocating or promoting any particular form of government other than the Constitutional Republic which the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution defined and instituted.
We are not advocating or promoting the rewriting of the Constitution nor are we asking for an Amendment thereto. We are insisting on the Constitution being Enforced as it is written without interpretation.
We are Not advocating or promoting any act or acts of aggression against any organization or person for any reason including, but not limited to; race, religion, national origin, political affiliation, gender or sexual orientation.
We hope for a return to a Constitutional Republic free from fear and hatred, We hate only tyranny.
We are Oath sworn Americans who want the Constitution returned to its Legal and Rightful place, intact, as the Ultimate Law of the Land. From the Oath Keepers site
Paul pulls in big cash By: CNN Political Producer Alexander Mooney
(CNN) – The Fox News Republican presidential debate may have drawn little national attention and few top tier candidates, but it has proved to be a fundraising boon for Texas Rep. Ron Paul.
According to Paul’s campaign website, the likely presidential candidate who was extraordinarily successful in raising cash in 2008 is at it again – to the tune of more than $1 million in an online cash push dubbed a “money bomb.”
The online fundraising effort was launched ahead of Fox’s debate Thursday night with an ambitious goal for $2 million. The million-dollar threshold was crossed early Friday morning.
The impressive showing is a clear sign the unorthodox Texas Republican will once again be a force in the Republican presidential primary, though his appeal with voters beyond his intensely-loyal base remains unclear.
A recent CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll showed Paul at 10 percent among Republicans nationally, tied with former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and behind Sarah Palin, Mitt Romney, Donald Trump, and Mike Huckabee.
We are Not advocating or promoting the overthrow of any government whether local, state or national. We want our governments to return to the Constitutional Republic which the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution defined and instituted.
This interpretation would eliminate the amendments to the constitution[/quote]
We are Not advocating or promoting violence towards any organization, group or person. We are determined to Honor our Oath to support and defend the Constitution.
Again, they are not talking about the US Constitution as it exists today... they are talking about THEIR INTERPRETATION of the constitution... what ever that is.
We are not advocating or promoting the removal of any person from his or her elected office. We want all elected persons to live up to their Oath to "support and defend the Constitution" as it is written or to leave of their own volition.
See the language they use??? "We want all elected persons to live up to their Oath to "support and defend the Constitution" as it is written" THEY DECIDE WHAT 'AS IT WAS WRITTEN" MEANS. If they determine a judge or a legislator ISN'T living up to the Constitution, then the DO want to remove an elected official from office.
We are not advocating or promoting that anyone in the Judicial Branch be removed or replaced. We want the Justices in the Judicial Branch to follow the Constitution as written without interpretation.
And if THEY decide that the justices are not (in their opinion) following the Constitution... then what???
We are not advocating or promoting any particular form of government other than the Constitutional Republic which the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution defined and instituted.
If THEY decide that Obama is a SOCIALIST... and THEY decide that Obama is not promoting a Constitutional Republic... then what??? They are an armed trained militia ... and will support any political group who also says that the happens to be a Constitutional Republic (TeaParty).. to overthrow the US Government.
We are not advocating or promoting the rewriting of the Constitution nor are we asking for an Amendment thereto. We are insisting on the Constitution being Enforced as it is written without interpretation.
We are Not advocating or promoting any act or acts of aggression against any organization or person for any reason including, but not limited to; race, religion, national origin, political affiliation, gender or sexual orientation.
We hope for a return to a Constitutional Republic free from fear and hatred, We hate only tyranny.
We are Oath sworn Americans who want the Constitution returned to its Legal and Rightful place, intact, as the Ultimate Law of the Land. From the Oath Keepers site[/quote]
Oath keepers are the armed militia that plans to take over the US Government when THEY and the Radical Politicians they follow decide the Constitution is no longer being followed to their agenda.
They don't vow to protect and defend OUR constitution... they plan on fighting for THEIR version of the constitution.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
It's amazing how you always interpret things with a far left spin instead of just reading what is written. No where does it say that they will interpret the Constitution the way they want it to be so stop putting words in that aren't there. I'll join them over some Marxist dictator trying to take over our country and deny all Americans the freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution. Don't be quoting me about what the Oath Keepers say all I did was take what they stand for off their web site, I'm not a member. Lay off the LSD you're starting to see things that aren't there.
I'll join them over some Marxist dictator trying to take over our country and deny all Americans the freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution..
So now all the Oath Keepers have to do is convince you that Obama is a Marxist dictator... probably half on this board already believe that Obama is a Socialist... so it's not much of a stretch.
Homeland Security has issued warnings that the next wave of terrorism in the USA will be Right Wing Militia... just like the Oath Keepers.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Box, we think for ourselves, nobody is going to convince me Obama is a Marxist. He is a left wing advocate who believes in big government providing all of America's needs but he isn't a Marxist. I could say that Move On, New Black Panthers, or some unions want to create violence against the government because it isn't far left enough based on some of the things that they have said. How about a school in Arizona that want to teach Mexican immigrants to rise up and revolt to take back the land that was taken from them by our government. I'm willing to bet that the next wave of violence by terrorists against our government will be done by Muslim converts right here in our country.
Then we have the MIAC report if you support third party candidates, support the second ammendment, are anti abortion or immigration or display the gadsen flag you can be targeted as a member of a militia.
So because I support Ron Paul (whose name is in the document with others) and am prolife I could be considered a threat, what a bunch of BS.
And because Senders had the Gadsen flag as his profile pic?
Oh and those serving in the military or veterans. Here's a response from the American Legion in which my father has been a proud member for many years:
Secretary Janet Napolitano Department of Homeland Security U.S. Department of Homeland Security Washington, DC 20528 April 13, 2009
Dear Secretary Napolitano, On behalf of the 2.6 million-member American Legion, I am stating my concern about your April 7 report, “Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence and Recruitment.” First, I want to assure you that The American Legion has long shared your concern about white supremacist and anti-government groups. In 1923, when the Ku Klux Klan still yielded unspeakable influence in this country, The American Legion passed Resolution 407. It resolved, in part, “…we consider any individual, group of individuals or organizations, which creates, or fosters racial, religious or class strife among our people, or which takes into their own hands the enforcement of law, determination of guilt, or infliction of punishment, to be un-American, a menace to our liberties, and destructive to our fundamental law…”
The best that I can say about your recent report is that it is incomplete. The report states, without any statistical evidence, “The possible passage of new restrictions on firearms and the return of military veterans facing significant challenges reintegrating into their communities could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists capable of carrying out violent attacks.”
The American Legion is well aware and horrified at the pain inflicted during the Oklahoma City bombing, but Timothy McVeigh was only one of more than 42 million veterans who have worn this nation’s uniform during wartime. To continue to use McVeigh as an example of the stereotypical “disgruntled military veteran” is as unfair as using Osama bin Laden as the sole example of Islam.
Your report states that “Rightwing extremists were concerned during the 1990s with the perception that illegal immigrants were taking away American jobs through their willingness to work at significantly lower wages.” Secretary Napolitano, this is more than a perception to those who have lost their job. Would you categorize union members as “Right Wing extremists”?
In spite of this incomplete, and, I fear, politically-biased report, The American Legion and the Department of Homeland Security share many common and crucial interests, such as the Citizen Corps and disaster preparedness. Since you are a graduate of New Mexico Girls State, I trust that you are very familiar with The American Legion. I would be happy to meet with you at a time of mutual convenience to discuss issues such as border security and the war on terrorism. I think it is important for all of us to remember that Americans are not the enemy. The terrorists are.
Sincerely, David K. Rehbein National Commander The American Legion
I support Ron Paul.......I changed my party affiliation from blank to rep just so I can vote in the presidential primary. Does that make me a threat? I hope it is............ to the political process!!!
When the INSANE are running the ASYLUM In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. -- Friedrich Nietzsche
“How fortunate for those in power that people never think.” Adolph Hitler
Here’s a news bulletin — it is becoming increasingly clear that we are living in a time when Republican politics are being shaped by a 75-year-old, 12-term Texas congressman with a son in the Senate. And incredibly, it is no longer out of the realm of possibility that this outcast of the GOP establishment may win the party’s presidential nomination.
If you have not been paying attention, it is time to look around and realize that we are living in the political age of Rep. Ron Paul.
A CNN/Opinion Research poll released late last week shows Paul faring the best against President Obama of any potential Republican candidate. He trails the president by only 7 points, 52-45 percent, in a head-to-head matchup. Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee trails by 8 points, with former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney down 11 points to Obama.
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