Great video, I hope box watches the whole thing and understands why his type divides more then unites.
As I posted, it looked like a 'feel good' Pepsi commercial:
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I'd like to teach the world to sing In perfect harmony I'd like to hold it in my arms And keep it company
If the discussion is about the similarities between Ron Paul and MLK... I can find none!
Ron Paul groupies, like classic "groupies" have an unrealistic sense of Ron Paul's image and impact on the world. Polls show that Paul is viewed in America much like other 'fringe' candidates. A minor party candidate who will fade into the political abyss.
MLK changed America like few leaders in our history... Lincoln freed the slaves, but they were not actually "free' to live as the rest of America until the civil rights campaign. A central figure of that campaign was MLK.
Ron Paul's impact on the country??? None that I can determine.
We've all heard..."You're No John Kennedy"... Ron Paul is no MLK!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Yup you didn't watch the video so who cares what you think, afraid you might see how stupid your arguments really are? oh well go get back on your knees.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Yup you didn't watch the video so who cares what you think, afraid you might see how stupid your arguments really are? oh well go get back on your knees.
You're right... I didn't watch the entire 21 minutes!!! I have a pretty high pain tolerance... but a low tolerance to Right Wing BS!
Ron Paul's racists views are nothing new... they don't need to be gone over and over again... Paul says his newsletter was a "mistake"... some people believe that, others don't. The fact that RP says he would have voted against one of the most important civil rights bills in our country does say a lot. Paul's agenda would have put the bill back into committee... stretched out the hearings... diluted any possible good from the bill... you know... like the Republicans did with Health care for the last 50 years.
Whether RP is a 'racist' or not is in RP's heart, and is of no concern. How he voted (or would have voted) IS a major concern to me.
RP would have joined hundreds of southern politicians of his time and stalled, resubmitted a bill, send back to committee, renegotiate... etc etc etc. He would have done everything possible NOT to pass a civil rights bill... The OPPOSITE of MLK.
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
Box is funny. he called that video right wing BS but never questions his messiah, here box these one look sturdy enough for 3 more years of blowing
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Box is funny. he called that video right wing BS but never questions his messiah, here box these one look sturdy enough for 3 more years of blowing
Henry is long on BS but short on FACTS.
There is much that I don't agree with from Obama. Those FACTS seem to not fit your agenda so you do what you always do when the Facts conflict with your opinion... You make stuff up!
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
If the discussion is about the similarities between Ron Paul and MLK... I can find none!
Ron Paul groupies, like classic "groupies" have an unrealistic sense of Ron Paul's image and impact on the world. Polls show that Paul is viewed in America much like other 'fringe' candidates. A minor party candidate who will fade into the political abyss.
MLK changed America like few leaders in our history... Lincoln freed the slaves, but they were not actually "free' to live as the rest of America until the civil rights campaign. A central figure of that campaign was MLK.
Ron Paul's impact on the country??? None that I can determine.
We've all heard..."You're No John Kennedy"... Ron Paul is no MLK!
OMG!!!! We agree on something box!!!!
Martin Luther King was the furthest thing from a libertarian!!
First he believed in racial quota's. So in his rhetorical speech when he had a dream that there would come a day when people were not judged based on the color of their skin but the content of the character was just that - RHETORIC.
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In a 1968 Playboy interview, he said, "If a city has a 30% Negro population, then it is logical to assume that Negroes should have at least 30% of the jobs in any particular company, and jobs in all categories rather than only in menial areas." King was more than just talk in this regard. Working through his Operation Breadbasket, King threatened boycotts of businesses that did not hire blacks in proportion to their population.
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In his book Where Do We Go From Here - Martin Luther King - 1968, King wrote "A society that has done something special against the Negro for hundreds of years must now do something special for him, to equip him to compete on a just and equal basis."
MLK also wrote in his book Why We Can't Wait this:
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No amount of gold could provide an adequate compensation for the exploitation and humiliation of the Negro in America down through the centuries…Yet a price can be placed on unpaid wages. The ancient common law has always provided a remedy for the appropriation of a the labor of one human being by another. This law should be made to apply for American Negroes. The payment should be in the form of a massive program by the government of special, compensatory measures which could be regarded as a settlement in accordance with the accepted practice of common law.
MLK didn't like the free markets either. Free Markets and capitalism is the cornerstone of Libertarian principles. In a speech in front of his staff on November 14, 1966 in Frogmore SC he said this:
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You can’t talk about solving the economic problem of the Negro without talking about billions of dollars. You can’t talk about ending the slums without first saying profit must be taken out of slums. You’re really tampering and getting on dangerous ground because you are messing with folk then. You are messing with captains of industry… Now this means that we are treading in difficult water, because it really means that we are saying that something is wrong…with capitalism… There must be a better distribution of wealth and maybe America must move toward a Democratic Socialism.
One area that Dr. King and Dr. Paul may agree on was the Vietnam War and a non-intervtionalist U.S. foreign policy.
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On April 14, 1967 in New York City, Civil rights leader Martin Luther King detailed rationales his for opposition U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War. King claimed that America had rejected Ho Chi Minh's revolutionary government which he said was seeking Vietnamese self-determination. Ho's government was, said King, "a government that had been established not by China (for whom the Vietnamese have no great love) but by clearly indigenous forces that included some Communists. For the peasants this new government meant real land reform, one of the most important needs in their lives.
"For nine years following 1945 we denied the people of Vietnam the right of independence. For nine years we vigorously supported the French in their abortive effort to recolonize Vietnam.Before the end of the war we were meeting eighty percent of the French war costs. Even before the French were defeated at Dien Bien Phu, they began to despair of the reckless action, but we did not. We encouraged them with our huge financial and military supplies to continue the war even after they had lost the will. Soon we would be paying almost the full costs of this tragic attempt at recolonization.
"After the French were defeated it looked as if independence and land reform would come again through the Geneva agreements. But instead there came the United States, determined that Ho should not unify the temporarily divided nation, and the peasants watched again as we supported one of the most vicious modern dictators -- our chosen man, Premier Diem. The peasants watched and cringed as Diem ruthlessly routed out all opposition, supported their extortionist landlords and refused even to discuss reunification with the north. The peasants watched as all this was presided over by U.S. influence and then by increasing numbers of U.S. troops who came to help quell the insurgency that Diem's methods had aroused. When Diem was overthrown they may have been happy, but the long line of military dictatorships seemed to offer no real change -- especially in terms of their need for land and peace.
"The only change came from America as we increased our troop commitments in support of governments which were singularly corrupt, inept and without popular support. All the while the people read our leaflets and received regular promises of peace and democracy -- and land reform. Now they languish under our bombs and consider us -- not their fellow Vietnamese --the real enemy. They move sadly and apathetically as we herd them off the land of their fathers into concentration camps where minimal social needs are rarely met. They know they must move or be destroyed by our bombs. So they go -- primarily women and children and the aged.
"They watch as we poison their water, as we kill a million acres of their crops. They must weep as the bulldozers roar through their areas preparing to destroy the precious trees. They wander into the hospitals, with at least twenty casualties from American firepower for one 'Vietcong'-inflicted injury. So far we may have killed a million of them -- mostly children. They wander into the towns and see thousands of the children, homeless, without clothes, running in packs on the streets like animals. They see the children, degraded by our soldiers as they beg for food. They see the children selling their sisters to our soldiers, soliciting for their mothers.
"What do the peasants think as we ally ourselves with the landlords and as we refuse to put any action into our many words concerning land reform? What do they think as we test our latest weapons on them, just as the Germans tested out new medicine and new tortures in the concentration camps of Europe? Where are the roots of the independent Vietnam we claim to be building? Is it among these voiceless ones?
"We have destroyed their two most cherished institutions: the family and the village. We have destroyed their land and their crops. We have supported the enemies of the peasants of Saigon. We have corrupted their women and children and killed their men. What 'liberators?'
"Now there is little left to build on -- save bitterness. Soon the only solid physical foundations remaining will be found at our military bases and in the concrete of the concentration camps we call fortified hamlets.
"Perhaps the more difficult but no less necessary task is to speak for those who have been designated as our enemies. What of the National Liberation Front -- that strangely anonymous group we call VC or Communists? What must they think of us in America when they realize that we permitted the repression and cruelty of Diem which helped to bring them into being as a resistance group in the south? What do they think of our condoning the violence which led to their own taking up of arms? How can they believe in our integrity when now we speak of "aggression from the north" as if there were nothing more essential to the war? How can they trust us when now we charge them with violence after the murderous reign of Diem and charge them with violence while we pour every new weapon of death into their land? Surely we must see that the men we supported pressed them to their violence. Surely we must see that our own computerized plans of destruction simply dwarf their greatest acts..." [41]
So in the end, I will say it again, Box is spot on. Whether the creator of the video knew it or not, Dr. MLK is far from the libertarian ideology. King was known to surround himself with know Communists, and openly supported a democratic socialist form of government. King is a Statist through and through.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
The comments are interesting about his twitter post on different sites, some hate it some like it, those who do like it like it for different reasons.
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
Wow! A milestone! 2500 posts about a Texas congressman who never passed any legislation of any consequence... who fought hurricane relief for his own district and a failed fringe candidate who ran to stroke his ego.
"The Ron Paul REVOLUTION"
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
"In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a Patriot."
The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. John Kenneth Galbraith
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