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YUP!  Obama was a US Senator... now he is President... (for the next 4 1/2 years)
You'd think a US Senator like Paul would brush up on his FACTS before embarrassing himself on National TV.  
Poor Rand... he believed the Conservative propaganda and actually thought he was right!!!
Did ya see the look on his face when the panel told him the truth about Obama having a "smaller govt" than
GWB?  
He was totally scammed by the GOP!  

THERE IS NO TRUTH LIKE THAT FROM EITHER PARTY...

generational speaking it is BIGGER.....

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Like the American public was scammed by the "hope and change" proselytized by Obama?  Ya, how's that working for everyone?  Hahahahha.

Lets see... Hows it working for us???
GWB on BinLaden:
"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

"I am truly not that concerned about him."
- G.W. Bush, repsonding to a question about bin Laden's whereabouts,
3/13/02 (The New American, 4/8/02)

***Now the CHANGE... Obama is elected***

President Barack Hussein Obama on BinLaden:
BANG!  You're Dead M'F'er.

That Hope & Change is workin pretty good for me!!!    

Good for you.  Murdering an innocent man (not proven guilty) - removing his rights and executing him without a declaration of war.  I'm glad thats something you can be proud of.

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The point of posting the video was that Rand Paul actually believed the Right Wing Propaganda... A US
Senator, who has to learn about big government from a talk show host!
Paul who is a professional politician should at least know what he's complaining about before hitting the
airwaves.

Rand Paul (with a puzzled look on his face) asks:
"are you arguing that there were fewer government employees under Obama than there were under Bush???

LMAO! This guy is a US Senator!!!  

LMAO!!!  Box actually believes ThinkProgress propaganda to discredit Rand Paul's factual statement, by claiming it is "right wing propaganda".ROFLMAO!!!  

Federal employment SKYROCKETED under Obama, that is a FACT!  And please, don't try to bring in TOTAL government jobs including state and local government jobs.  The president has very little control over that.

Hahahahaha!!!  You are a professional douche bag that was duped by ThinkProgress....What a lemming!!!  You should be embarrassed!!!


Cicero give you 1,000,000 Pinocchio's

X 1,000,000

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Federal employment drops after years of explosive growth

The federal government has started to trim its workforce, ending several years of explosive and controversial growth that came at a time when private companies and state and local governments slashed jobs.

Federal employment has fallen for seven of the last eight months, the longest sustained drop in more than a decade. The decline is tiny: Just 9,900 fewer workers in May compared with a year earlier, excluding postal and temporary Census workers, reports the Bureau of Labor Statistics. That's a fraction of the 2.2 million civilian federal workforce.

Nevertheless, the reversal marks the end of a period of enormous employment growth that spanned the end of George W. Bush's presidency and the start of President Obama's term.

Federal employment grew 13% — 250,000 jobs — from the recession's start in December 2007 to a peak last September. During that time, private employment fell 5% and state and local governments cut staffs by 2%.








http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/story/2012-05-31/federal-workforce-decline-growth/55318944/1

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You'd think a US Senator like Paul would brush up on his FACTS before embarrassing himself on National TV.  
Poor Rand... he believed the Conservative propaganda and actually thought he was right!!!
Did ya see the look on his face when the panel told him the truth about Obama having a "smaller govt" than
GWB?  He was totally scammed by the GOP!  

Bwaaaaahahahahahaha!!!!  Box is still regurgitating the ThinkProgress propaganda!!! LOLOLOLOL!!!

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Private Jobs Down 4.6 Million From January 2008; Federal Jobs Up 11.4%



Fri., June 08, 2012 8:18 PM ET
Tags: Jobs - Obama - Economy - Government

altPresident Obama’s statement Friday that the private sector is “doing fine” drew so much ridicule that he was forced to backtrack hours later. But it’s clear that Obama and many other Democrats see job problems — and solutions — starting and stopping with government employment.

A quick look at payroll stats shows that’s not the case.

Private-sector jobs are still down by 4.6 million, or 4%, from January 2008, when overall employment peaked. Meanwhile government jobs are down just 407,000, or 1.8%. Federal employment actually is 225,000 jobs above its January 2008 level, an 11.4% increase. That’s right, up 11.4%.

Private payrolls have been trending higher in the last couple of years while government has been shedding staff. But that’s because governments did not cut jobs right away. Overall government employment didn’t peak until April 2009, 16 months after the recession started. It didn’t fall below their January 2008 level until September 2010.

The recession was boomtime for federal employment, especially after Obama took office. Federal jobs kept rising (excluding a temporary Census surge in early 2010) until March 2011 — more than three years after overall payrolls peaked.

Obama’s 2009 stimulus did little to revive private jobs, but did funnel massive funding to state and local governments. That, however, only delayed the day of reckoning for states and cities to curb spending. They finally did significantly slash jobs in 2010 and 2011. But those layoffs have slowed to a crawl in recent months — averaging less than 3,500 job cuts a month since November.

It’s easy to argue that Obama’s tunnel vision on government employment reflects his complete lack of experience in the business world. But it’s also mainstream Democratic thinking.

The Wisconsin recall election was about liberals’ zeal to maintain government employees’ privileges far and above those of struggling private sector workers who pay their salaries.

Payroll change since January 2008

Total: -5.01 million  -3.6%

Private: -4.61 million  -4%

Government: -407,000  -1.8%

Federal Government: (excluding post office) +225,000  11.4%

Sources: Labor Department, Datastream

Update: Why does Obama think the private sector is "doing fine"? "We've seen record profits in the corporate sector." And high corporate profits are good for tax revenues to pay for government programs and government jobs. That's the main reason Obama cares about the private sector.

Clarification: Some readers have wondered why I started my analysis from January 2008. Well, that's when overall employment peaked. Of course President Obama can't be blamed for job losses when he wasn't in office. My point was that private-sector employment, regardless of the reason, remains down more than government jobs. That's partly due to the fact that governments, especially at the federal level, continued to add staff during the recession. So when they finally started to react to weaker finances, they had to cut jobs significantly, and later.

http://blogs.investors.com/cap.....-federal-jobs-up-114

Cicero hates it when I'm right.  Glad he posted the proof with his graphs!

I was just reading about our board Cicero's name sake.

The original Cicero... (The smart one, not the one on our board) who was IN GOVERNMENT at the time,
managed to quell a rebellion when Cicero executed five conspirators without due process.
If only they had Drones back then!  

Rand Paul Responds to Krugman.  

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I was just reading about our board Cicero's name sake.

The original Cicero... (The smart one, not the one on our board) who was IN GOVERNMENT at the time,
managed to quell a rebellion when Cicero executed five conspirators without due process.

I'm glad to see you are reading something intelligent, and not just Think-Progress drivel.  

Read As We Go Marching next and then The Road To Serfdom.  Challenge your neo-liberal orthodoxy, it is a healthy mental exercise.

Poor Rand Paul...   They're not playin fair!  

Paul loves being the victim of the 'media bullies', yet he holds funds that could help local governments hostage
to his radical agenda.  
DC was trying to use it's cities funds more efficiently... you know... local governments running their own city...
but Rand Paul's Religion and Right Wing ideals got in the way of "Smaller Govt. "

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A Senate bill that would grant D.C. the ability the spend its own money and set its own fiscal year
was pulled from consideration yesterday evening in the wake of a set of amendments introduced by Sen.
Rand Paul (R-Ky.) targeting abortion, guns and union labor in D.C. The bill, which was introduced in April
by Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) and Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine).

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I'm glad to see you are reading something intelligent, and not just Think-Progress drivel.  

Read As We Go Marching next and then The Road To Serfdom.  Challenge your neo-liberal orthodoxy, it is a healthy mental exercise.

I read a broad range of different subjects... but none that I've read so far on "kissin up" to AlQaeda.
I'll leave that specialty to you.

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Poor Rand Paul...   They're not playin fair!  

Paul loves being the victim of the 'media bullies', yet he holds funds that could help local governments hostage
to his radical agenda.  

Mean bullies?  They LIED!  

Box, FYI....Federal funds are not local government funds.  What's next, blaming Andrew Cuomo and other State governors for the cut in federal spending to the states because of a decrease in Federal revenue coming out of States?  LOL  

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Mean bullies?  They LIED!  

Box, FYI....Federal funds are not local government funds.  What's next, blaming Andrew Cuomo and other State governors for the cut in federal spending to the states because of a decrease in Federal revenue coming out of States?  LOL  

So "The GOVERNMENT" now has changed from it's former meaning... now "THE GOVERNMENT" is only
the Federal govt... and you've demoted State and local GOVT to a different meaning.  

(So hard to keep up with these ever shifting Right Winger Definitions... it's almost like they make em  up
as they go along!)

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So "The GOVERNMENT" now has changed from it's former meaning... now "THE GOVERNMENT" is only
the Federal govt... and you've demoted State and local GOVT to a different meaning.  

(So hard to keep up with these ever shifting Right Winger Definitions... it's almost like they make em  up
as they go along!)

Lol...at it again huh box...Still having trouble with the difference between state, local, and federal government?  Take your pocket Constitution out and do a little reading about states rights and the role of the federal government.  It may, just may, help clarify the Constitutional role of the federal government.  

Me personally, I believe in an even MORE limit to state and local government.  But that isn't what we are talking about is it?  We are talking about the comment made by SENATOR RAND PAUL in the context of the Krugman/Paul exchange.  It was clear, Paul was talking about the expansion of the federal government.  I was pointing out how the dishonest apparatchik like yourself and those at ThinkPropaganda distort his words to fit your agenda.

Sorry to sh*t on your propaganda parade.  

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Lol...at it again huh box...Still having trouble with the difference between state, local, and federal government?  Take your pocket Constitution out and do a little reading about states rights and the role of the federal government.  It may, just may, help clarify the Constitutional role of the federal government.  

Me personally, I believe in an even MORE limit to state and local government.  But that isn't what we are talking about is it?  We are talking about the comment made by SENATOR RAND PAUL in the context of the Krugman/Paul exchange.  It was clear, Paul was talking about the expansion of the federal government.  I was pointing out how the dishonest apparatchik like yourself and those at ThinkPropaganda distort his words to fit your agenda.

Sorry to sh*t on your propaganda parade.  

The FACTS remain no matter if you get dizzier spinning it... Big Govt decreased under Obama... and it
WAS higher under Bushy.

To quote Bill Clinton:
"Since 1961 … our private economy has produced 66 million private-sector jobs.
So what's the jobs score? Republicans 24 million, Democrats 42 (million)."

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The FACTS remain no matter if you get dizzier spinning it... Big Govt decreased under Obama... and it
WAS higher under Bushy.

To quote Bill Clinton:
"Since 1961 … our private economy has produced 66 million private-sector jobs.
So what's the jobs score? Republicans 24 million, Democrats 42 (million)."

...again, sorry to sh*t on your propaganda parade.

Forward now means measuring jobs creation beginning in 1961.  Lol...good stuff box.